All the civs at once

SixofSpades · November 8, 2002, 21:04

I am sure this has been asked before, but I can not find it. Is there a way to have all the civs on the map at the same time?

This was not such a big deal before, but with PTW and the extra civs available, it would be interesting to play.

Could someone direct me to where I could find information on how to change that.

Thanks

Tuberski · November 8, 2002, 21:35

It's in the Editor for Civ III, I've played small maps with 16 civs, so I know you can do it.

But I don't know if you can get 24 from PTW, because I don't have it yet.

ACK!

vmxa1 · November 8, 2002, 21:55

Man I can not image trying to contact 24 civs.

WarpStorm · November 8, 2002, 22:31

You can get all 24 in a PTW scenario. Contact is fairly easy. The biggest problem is trying to keep track of diplomatic relations (I don't bother trying to get the whole picture, just those I think are "major" players).

Vlad Antlerkov · November 8, 2002, 23:18

Tuberski:

16 civs on a small map? I congratulate you! (Actually, how many survived by the time you had contact with all of them?

)

Tuberski · November 9, 2002, 00:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov
Tuberski:

16 civs on a small map? I congratulate you! (Actually, how many survived by the time you had contact with all of them?

)

I played on cheiftain, just to see what it was like, and suprisingly enough, I ended up defeating almost every civ by myself.

I had the romans and greeks practically in my back yard, so they didn't last long.

I think the game went to 400 AD or so.

I was still using knights.

By the time I had contact with the last civ, there were four left on another continent.

ACK!

Raiche23 · November 9, 2002, 04:27

16 civs on tiny map on chieftain. I had contact with every civ in no time.

lost like 1 city but got in back and dominate dthe rest of the game

for 24 you have to go through the scenario editor.

Demerzel · November 9, 2002, 04:48

mebbe it's better if you ask PtW questions in the PtW forum?

Sea41571 · November 9, 2002, 05:38

It would probley help more

ducki · November 9, 2002, 19:04

While PtW is a better place for the original post, this does bring up a good General Civ3 point.

The Diplomacy Screen.
Shift+Click to switch out?
I've only ever played with enough AIs to have to switch out 3 of them, and that was a pain.

I can't even imagine having to switch out all of them 3 times over.

star mouse · November 9, 2002, 21:22

I like the idea tho ... a CIV3 royal rumble

vmxa1 · November 9, 2002, 22:22

It seems they could go to a screen like the embassy one to fit more civs and have it scroll like the city/units one does. Warlords has a diplomatic screen with rows and cols. The lines are not real useful to me when you have everyone with all types of relationships and two of the lines have colors that are so similar?

Finvola · November 10, 2002, 17:29

I don't think I could handle the stress of having that many civs at once!

asleepathewheel · November 10, 2002, 19:01

23 civs is great
31 civs is great

the more to the party, the better

more heads on the pikes

tech race is quite fast though.

WarpStorm · November 10, 2002, 19:49

Quote:

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
tech race is quite fast though.

This depends. There are ways to slow it down to a reasonable rate. My latest mod is doing these, but I need a few games to make sure it's not a fluke.

There are a lot of factors to tech growth. Size of empires, AI trading rate, when maps can be traded, how fast you meet everyone, max cap, tech costs, etc.

Just tweaking one of these can slow (or increase) the tech rate. Adjusting all of them takes a few games to get right.

My 24 player game is a blast. The only problem is the screwy spiderweb display only letting me see the relationships of 8 civs at once. I've complained to Firaxis about this a bunch of times.

asleepathewheel · November 10, 2002, 19:52

Quote:

Originally posted by WarpStorm
This depends. There are ways to slow it down to a reasonable rate. My latest mod is doing these, but I need a few games to make sure it's not a fluke.

There are a lot of factors to tech growth. Size of empires, AI trading rate, when maps can be traded, how fast you meet everyone, max cap, tech costs, etc.

Just tweaking one of these can slow (or increase) the tech rate. Adjusting all of them takes a few games to get right.

I agree.

What do you tweak? besides just increasing the tech cost and values.

WarpStorm · November 10, 2002, 21:10

All of them

I'm trying to get it in balance at a rate I like now.