View Poll Results: What to do with Carths?
A- Peace 8 19.05%
A- War 3 7.14%
B- Trade tech 6 14.29%
B- Don't trade tech 3 7.14%
B- Steal tech 5 11.90%
C- Trade Carvans 9 21.43%
C- Don't trade Carvans 3 7.14%
Banana! 5 11.90%
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Old November 13, 2002, 17:51   #1
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Nothing new expect....... WHY WASN'T THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE HASN'T BE CARRYED OUT!!! WHY ARE WE STILL AT WAR WITH THEM!!!

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Old November 13, 2002, 17:55   #2
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did you wish me to give them all our techs and gold for peace?

I thought that would be silly but please poll the people and if they agree to peace at all cost then I will do that.
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Old November 13, 2002, 17:58   #6
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Old November 13, 2002, 19:13   #7
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Do we have any ideal what thier troop strength is? That would be the deciding factor on the question of if we should give into thier silly demand for peace.

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No strong views (for once) . They are bit players at the moment. However, the area around that Barbarian city is a tempting source of cheaply bribed "NONE" units if we can get a boat there with a diplomat.

If not, leave them alone for a while (give a tech or two to make peace, trade with them etc,) and concentrate on spoiling the expansion/growth of our main competitors.
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I really don't care if the Carths are "at war" with us. They can't even protect their own cities from the Barbs they have allowed into their midst. When I have voted "peace" in the past polls, I meant that "we" should not attack "them". What they do is nearly irrelevent.

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Ok, I'll have more choices than last time.
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Send the Diplo mission to the barbs and give the Carths some hell....
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, Messer Niccolo. Barb troops are cheaply bought and will keep the carth armies busy in their homeland. We should give them nothing to secure peace since we have little to gain by that peace.

Steal what tech we don't have. If at some point afterward they seek a ceasefire, we should do so only if it involves no cost to us.

If there is a safe waterway to a more distant trade partner, I would give precendence to it rather than trading with the nearby Carths. Save them only for emergencies or good supply-demand matches.
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I really don't care if the Carths are "at war" with us. They can't even protect their own cities from the Barbs they have allowed into their midst. When I have voted "peace" in the past polls, I meant that "we" should not attack "them". What they do is nearly irrelevent.

Yes they are rather pathetic,

One thing we can do after magnetism is empty out their coastal city's with frigates and let the barbs take over.

More NON units to bribe
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give them peace...let the barbs kill them

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Originally posted by Atawa:

One thing we can do after magnetism is empty out their coastal city's with frigates and let the barbs take over.



Leave them with one city, though.
We don't want a strong restarted civ.

How many of our total units are Nones?
Does our prez know?
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Leave them with one city, though.
We don't want a strong restarted civ.
We don't have to worry about this post 1500 AD do we?
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How many of our total units are Nones?
Does our prez know?
IIRC somewhere between 2 and 5...

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Ok, I'll have more choices than last time.
Maybe not so much "more" as "different". I'd suggest the choices be more in line with how *we* want to react to *them*. Even if a civ is technically "at war" with us, we can choose to ignore them so long as they don't actually attack us.

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The Ministry of Trade has identified 4 NONE units from City and Caravel payroll records. It is possible there are 1 or 2 others being paid out of local "operating expenses", though...

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Maybe not so much "more" as "different". I'd suggest the choices be more in line with how *we* want to react to *them*. Even if a civ is technically "at war" with us, we can choose to ignore them so long as they don't actually attack us.

Thats what I mean, next time, is going to be "War, but don't fight" & a "Peace for free!" choice.
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