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War Academy: Operation Reiseling
Draft Mission Statement
reserved for
the great seal
of Apolyton
quality purpose "Issued for planning" or "IFP"
This planning document cannot be reasonably used for procurement or construction purposes. Planning documents are issued to the SMC for review and possible forwarding to the Senate as a basis for a resolution of committment.
Operation Reiseling
A resource denial based assault on southern Germany.
Mission objective is permanent significant reduction of Germany's beaker production. The minimum military objectives prior considering Germany's surrender:
Capture of-
Hamburg (to be kept est 10% of Germany's beakers)
Stuttgart (to be kept est 10% of Germany's beakers)
Berlin (to be sacked est 20% of Germany's beakers)
Extended campaign objectives (possible but not yet in plan)
Significant destruction or sacking of-
Leipzig (est 12% of germany's beakers)
Force structure
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Overall Committed
...1 fast size 3 Cavalry Army
...22 fast (independent) Cavalry
...12 bombard best unit available currently cannon
...8 defense best unit available currently musket
...8 explorers
Homeguard additions
...1 additional defender each city on extended northern border
Team Anisethe (Objective Hamburg, converge on Berlin)
...6 bombard
...6 fast
...4 defense
Team Burgundy (Objective resource denial, Berlin)
...1 fast size 3 Army (Cavalry)
...10 fast units (Cavalry)
...6 explorer units
Team Champagne (Objective Stuttgart, converge on Berlin)
...6 bombard (Cannon or Arty if available)
...4 defense (Best available probably Riflemen)
Team Schnapps (Objective Stuttgart, Nuremberg cutoff, and misc)
...6 fast units (Cavalry)
Team Reiseling (Objective wine tile, and others)
...2 explorers (suicide mission)
Staging points
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Definition: "Napoleton corner" The extreme north east edge of our sphere of influence near Napoleton or n, ne, ne from Napoelton
All forces except team Reiseling stage 2 road tiles removed from "Napoleton Corner".
Team Reiseling stages AT "Napoleton Corner" due to long distance mission.
Note to Public Works department: Mission Critical roadwork to suport is required. Schedule work so as to complete on or before D-Turn minus 1 as defined elsewhere in this document. This work has priority over ALL other PW projects. Failure is not an option.
Rally points
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After completion of primary mission, Teams Anisethe, and Champagne less proper garrison forces will join with Team Burgundy.
Turn of Committment (D-Turn)
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Mission cannot commit prior to 1070 AB due to outstanding diplomatic agreements. Committment may be extended due to force buildup requirements and other reasons. Current estimate is that hosbilities (D-Turn) will commence 1100 AB and is buildup limited.
Mission is assumed to commit at earliest possible date.
Note to Diplomatic corps: All personnel not covered by diplomatic immunity MUST leave Germany on or before D-Turn - 1
Note to Foreign Ministry: The current lux deal with Germany scheduled to expire 980 AB MUST NOT BE RENEWED. In addition the current peace treaty now scheduled for renegotiation in 1070 AB will be opened for renegotiation during D-Turn with minimum demands that are sure to be rejected by Germany.
Order of Battle
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D-Turn (the turn of committment)
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Espionage examine Berlin for force levels and to determine clear path for Team Reiseling to the Wine tile. If clear path not available, delay mission. Espionage examine Stuttgart and Hamburg for force levels
Assuming clear path found:
Make unsuccessful peace renegotiation
Declare war
Team Anisethe
Receive espionage update then Advance by road to Napoleton Corner, then nw
Team Burgundy
Receive espionage update then Advance by road to Napoleton Corner, then n, nw, w with explorers ending turn by pillaging the ending stack tile (**edited movement **)
Team Champagne
Receive espionage update then Advance by road to Napoleton Corner, then n
Team Schnapps
Advance by road to Napoleton Corner, then n, n, n to mountain above Stuttgart
Team Reiseling
Receive espionage report then From Napoleton Corner appropriate mix of 4 n's and 1 nw to
reach the wine tile (per the espionage report) then pillage the wine tile
D-Turn +1
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Team Anisethe
move w so as to be in bombard range of Hamburg
Team Burgundy
Army, move n forming the stack
fast, clear pillage targets as required then retreat to stack
Explorers 1&2, follow stack and pillage there
Explorers 3&4, nw, pillage, retreat to stack
Explorers 5&6, ne,n, pillage, retreat to stack
Team Champagne
move ne to hills overlooking Stuttgart
Team Schnapps
Cut down any German reinforcements from Nuremburg etc then clear principal turn Reiseling site and or pillage it based on Reiseling status. (mission critical) This is only Berlin tier 1 tile not targeted directly by team Burgundy. Otherwise maintain the heights overlooking Stuttgart
Team Reiseling
Pillage targets of opportunity if still functional. Await Team Schnapps activity before assessing targets.
Priority given to
....floodplain w of position (Berlin tier 1)
if occupied
....hills n of position (Nuremburg reinforcement route)
if occupied
....floodplain nw of position (Nuremburg reinforcement route)
if occupied
....any developed tile within range
D-Turn + 2
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Team Anisethe
Bombard Hamburg
Assault to be field determined based on bombard results
Team Burgundy
Army move ne forming stack
fast 1&2 clear explorer pillage targets as required then retreat to stack
fast 3&4 move nw, n then pillage (bait)
fast 5&6 move nw, ne then pillage (bait)
explorer 1&2 follow stack then pillage
explorer 3&4 move ne, ne, pillage, retreat to stack
explorer 5&6 move ne, n, pillage, retreat to stack
Team Champagne
Bombard Stuttgart
Assault to be field determined based on bombard results
Team Schnapps
Intercept German reinforcements as required and stand by for Stuttgart assault
Team Reiseling
Any survivors converge on Team Burgundy
D-Turn +3 and beyond
Team Anisethe
Occupy Hamburg with half of defender force. All remaining members converge on Team Burgundy
Team Champagne
Occupy Stuttgart with half of defender force. All remaining members converge on Team Burgundy
Team Schnapps
Stuttgart Assault then converge on team Burgundy
Team Burgundy
Position Army, 8 healthiest fast, and 6 explorers to northern side of Berlin, and then proceed to pillage in route to Leipzig. Remaining cover bombard stacks from Team Anisethe and Team Champagne during Berlin bombardment. Prepare for eventual assault of Berlin based on bombard results.
/mission statement ends
respectfully submitted
Ssgt roadcage (retired)
revision record
16Nov corrected Turn 1 Team Burgundy stack movement
16Nov Force levels (more fast, less defense) based on German posturing.
16Nov D-Turn defined and extimated. All turns now relative.
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November 15, 2002, 06:21
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Nice
Those German scum shall fall beneath our feet with such genius we have at our disposal.
Well Done roadcage
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November 15, 2002, 06:21
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Damn!
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November 15, 2002, 07:13
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roadcage- I don't know if its in this massive plan of yours, but i noticed that germany's only horse resources is 5 tiles from our boder- which means we can pillage it on the first turns- which means germany can't build or upgrade to cavalry. Doing this in the first turn means they won't be able to start its prodcution- which is different than when you pillage it in the second turn- by this time production of Cavs might be already happening, and will not be stopped.
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November 15, 2002, 09:28
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roadcage- I don't know if its in this massive plan of yours, but i noticed that germany's only horse resources is 5 tiles from our boder
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Team Polo was dropped based on my interepretation of 'objectives' thread comments. In addition, the horsie is precisely 5 tiles deep diagonally from precisely 1 border tile. All Otto has to do to thwart this strategy is have something on any of the path tiles. Examination of recent saves indicate that Otto has something on the border tile of the path more often than not. Hence there is limited chance of being able to pillage immediate.
Force structure would increase by 2 explorers for Team Polo
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November 15, 2002, 09:37
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Meshelic, how should I interepet your comment?
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November 15, 2002, 11:56
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Well done roadcage. Knowing plans like this are being made makes me believe that I can worry about other things than invasions plans. This is an excellent plan.
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November 15, 2002, 12:06
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I just noticed that Togas orders are calling to renew our luxary & saltpeter deals with Germany.
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November 15, 2002, 13:29
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As aggressive as germany is I'm sure we can sucker them into a war whenver we desire.
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November 15, 2002, 14:34
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As aggressive as germany is I'm sure we can sucker them into a war whenver we desire.
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Once we have Espionage, absolutely! The 200g failed spy trick works like a charm. But that is many turns from now.
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November 15, 2002, 15:34
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Originally posted by roadcage
Once we have Espionage, absolutely! The 200g failed spy trick works like a charm. But that is many turns from now.
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If we wait until after they have Riflemen, its going to make it more expensive, and if we wait until we have Tanks, they'll have Panzers and several civs will be working on Hoover Dam, I'm emailing Togas.
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November 15, 2002, 16:49
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Originally posted by roadcage
Meshelic, how should I interepet your comment?
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Interpret it as me being impressed with your post.
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November 15, 2002, 16:56
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If we take Hamburg & Stuggart, I don't see why Berlin needs sacked. Keep it for ourselves.
Also on the extended list, I don't see why Leipzig should be sacked either, keep it for ourselves as well.
It's "uncivilized" to sack cities during the Victorian era which we will be in soon.
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November 15, 2002, 20:06
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Should have put this in the Mission statement, but notice that the force structure requires significant military builds prior to D-Turn minus 2.
(see Mission Statement for definition of D-Turn)
have enough Cav + WC's
need ~6 cannon*40=240 shields
need~10 Musk*60=600 shields
need~8Expl*20=160 shields
plus the usual shield wastes at completion
so plan accordingly!
(edited in support of 16Nov Mission Statement revisions)
(edited to reflect recent builds per 1010 ad save)
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November 15, 2002, 20:32
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I've been away a while. Are we really going after Germany now?
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November 15, 2002, 20:44
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Hopefully in about a dozen turns. But this has not been polled. However, Germany did win the "Civ you love to hate" poll
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November 16, 2002, 15:33
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hi ,
we should wait a bit , .....
then we should go after them
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November 16, 2002, 16:40
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Originally posted by joncnunn
I just noticed that Togas orders are calling to renew our luxary & saltpeter deals with Germany.
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Togas has agreed to change these orders.
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November 16, 2002, 17:28
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Be advised, that "Mission Statements" are living documents. They are subject to and routinely are edited for numerous reasons such as:
Changes in target Civ force structure estimates
Changes in target Civ negotiating posture
Changes in Geopolitical objectives
Map updates
Errors and omissions
and other reasons
All Mission Statements contain a revision record at the end of the thread opening post. The revision record is essentially a record of the editing activity of the lead mission planner. These records will not include analysis. Such analysis as deemed necessary will be found elsewhere in the thread.
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November 16, 2002, 17:57
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First of all, my apologies if I'm repeating something that has already been said, but I've been away for 3 days and it's hard to read everything that I've missed, though I try. 
Now, to business. If we're going to isolate Berlin, shouldn't we not conquer it straight away? After all, if we do then Germany's capital will just change and they will not be denied resources anymore.
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November 16, 2002, 18:13
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The Mission Statement is deliberately vague with regards to timing the Berlin Assault for just this reasoning. Team Burgundy will be isolating Leipzig (most probable next Reighstag) While Team Anisethe and Team Champagne bombard Berlin. We naturally plan to have Leipzig isolated before Berlin Falls.
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November 17, 2002, 11:15
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hi ,
we might want to build more cav , .....
and what about playing them out against some else , ...?
have a nice day
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