November 16, 2002, 22:33
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Settler
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PTW-Propagada
Is it just me (UE) or are you not able to do propagada in PTW? I am able to select spy and intiate propagada, but unable to do anything else. Can't select city to do it in. The instructions say you need to have a spy in the city where you want to initiate propagada, but I can't put a spy into any city but the capital. And still I can't initiate propagada. 
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November 17, 2002, 10:11
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King
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Along the right edge of the espionage screen, in the upper half of the screen, is a listing of cities. In the new espionage interface, you need to: (1) select target civ; (2) select diplo or spy mission; (3) select the mission; (4) select the city (if applicable); (5) select the "mission chances" (i.e., immediately, safely); and (6) select "execute." It's pretty easy to miss a step until you get the hang of it.
Catt 
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November 17, 2002, 11:48
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Settler
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That is exactly what I'm doing, but it won't let me select a city. they don't highlight or anything, they just stay grayed out and non-available.
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November 17, 2002, 12:03
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Prince
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I am new to the espionage arena, so I don't have any suggestions for you, fskrc1, but I do have a couple of related question. Are courthouses really that effective in reducing the effect of propaganda? And do they help in fending off other acts of espionage?
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November 17, 2002, 12:55
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King
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fskrc1...
You can't put spies in any city except the capital. Nobody can. Once the capital has a spy the game treats it like you have a spy in every city.
As for being unable to initiate propaganda.... If you already have a spy in the civ you are trying to convert then I don't know what the problem is. If you don't, then you need to have a successful infilitration going before the advanced espionage options become available.
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November 17, 2002, 13:44
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Emperor
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fskrc1
I'm not sure... but I think you cannot do Propaghanda versus a nation who is governement are Democracy!
Have a nice day!
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November 17, 2002, 14:29
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Deity
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Cronos is right. Democratic governments are immune to propaganda attacks:
PAGE 131, Civ3 Manual: "Patriotism and strong democratic traditions make your cities completely immune to propaganda."
So this could be your problem...it's not a bug, but a feature. 
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November 17, 2002, 14:32
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Prince
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Yeah - This seems to be a bg that crept in with the new espionage screen. in Civ3, You get a message stating that So and So is immune to propaganda because they are in democracy. In PTW, this pop-up is never triggered because you can't get as far along in the process. But since you can't get to the pop-up, there is no subtle hint (Like an icecube to the sleeping) that "Hey, You can't do that".
I got stumped by this too. Has to go to the Army screen to check and yep, low and behold, they were in democracy.
Hope this helps
Kevin
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November 19, 2002, 23:49
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Settler
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Thanks
Thanks Kevin, that is it. 
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