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November 18, 2002, 14:01
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OFFICIAL: amendment: governers
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Director of Energy and Industry:
Has the right of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Ordering the commissioner to rushbuild, use money in trades, change worker placements, and move crawlers
*Advising any other part of the government
*Requesting crawlers and buildings with the Director of buildings productions.
*Polling Planetary Council decision on salvaging reactor core
*Polling Planetary Council decisions on Global Trade Pacts
Has the duties of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Listing to the will of the people in his area
*Giving his opinion to the director of foreign affairs about any talks, which effect his area, with other factions
*Serving his faction the best he can
This Director is responsible of the treasury expenditures, worker placements, and crawlers.
Director of Terraforming and Colonisation:
Has the right of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Ordering the commissioner to move terraformers and colony pods
*Ordering the commissioner to design new TC units, disband old TC units and upgrade current TC units
*Advising any other part of the government
*Requesting terraformers colony pods, and buildings with the Director of buildings productions.
*Polling Planetary Council decisions on raising and lowering sea levels
Has the duties of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Listing to the will of the people in his area
*Serving his faction the best he can
Director of Expansion and Terraforming commands all colony pods and terraformers
Director of Base production:
Has the right of:
*Ordering the commissioner to build buildings and units
*Advising any other part of the government
*Starting polls about Special Projects
Has the duties of:
*Choosing between various requests made by the directors
*Starting polls about Special Projects
*Listing to the will of the people about the Special Projects
*Serving his faction the best he can
*Posting polls on how our bases should be named
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all rights and duties that are about the planetary councel and put them under the DFA
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[article I]
Director of Interal Affaires:
has the right of:
*mapping out regions in our faction
*advising any governer on how he should run his region
*veto an orders from a governer
*moving colony pods
has the duties of:
*dividing formers, crawlers and funds over regions in our faction
*making a list of every buildrequest by other director that has to be divided between the regions in our faction
*polling the peoples wishes on colonizing decisions
the director of internal affaires is the head of the governers councel
Governers:
have the rights of:
*ordering the commissioner to:
**move formers for his region
**move crawlers for his region
**start buildingqueues for his region
**rush constructions for his region
**move workers
*advising any director that concern his region
*polling for guidelines for his region
[all within the parameters given by the Director of Internal Affaires]
have the duties of:
*carrying out orders from the Director of Internal affaires
*advising the rest of the faction about this region the best he can
May NOT:
give orders in a specific field if the director of Internal affaires uses his veto on the subject.
Governers are assign by the people to take care of a certain region of our faction.
[article II]
governers will be chosen by the people with elections
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[i put in colony pods thingy with the DIA and fixed some typos....any typos still in the text will be removed without an amendment if this one passes!]
Commissioner DBTS
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November 19, 2002, 18:00
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Originally posted by Drogue
Can directors be governors?
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November 20, 2002, 09:47
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yes why not?
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November 20, 2002, 11:44
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Because some people before thought it would either be too much work or a conflict of interest. Poll on it IMHO.
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November 21, 2002, 13:43
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A quick question, who gets to elect the governors? The citizens of the particular base which the governor is running for, or everyone?
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November 21, 2002, 14:08
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There are various ideas I think. I think it'll probably end up as everyone voting for all Governors and then the DIA (or someone) chooses who is Governor of what. I don't think only voting for your area works, because not all people live in a base, and it's quite interchangeable who lives where.
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November 21, 2002, 21:08
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according to the citizen registry aswell, some bases have no citizens
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November 21, 2002, 23:26
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Governers are assign by the people to take care of a certain region of our faction.
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That part of the amendment is too general; first of all we haven’t even decided on what the regions should be nor how governors will be assigned for a particular region.
My proposal is that after we’ve determined what the regions are that candidates put their name forward and run for that particular region, it would simplify the election considerable and it would more in line with democracy then just having a general election and then assigning regions to the governors.
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November 22, 2002, 07:10
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i always put a general jobdiscription line under the rights and duties part and i tought this was general enough.....
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November 22, 2002, 08:00
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Originally posted by Voltaire
That part of the amendment is too general; first of all we haven’t even decided on what the regions should be nor how governors will be assigned for a particular region.
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The idea is that after we've seen how many people want to be Governors, and once we have a DIA, they will draw up the regions. However, as this is still under discussion, the amendment does not include it. I agree with DBTS, a general description of what the Governor is to do under the Rights and Duties is a good idea IMHO.
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My proposal is that after we’ve determined what the regions are that candidates put their name forward and run for that particular region, it would simplify the election considerable and it would more in line with democracy then just having a general election and then assigning regions to the governors.
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I like that idea, although it could mean having no-one running for certain areas. Also, it has been said that it would be simpler to have one elcetion thread for all Governors, rather than a large number of them, as people have already complained that there were too many elections before.
To be honest I don't mind whether we elect Governors all at once or individually, because I think if we do it in the middle of the term (as per US Midterm House/Senate elections) there aren't the large number of elections at once.
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November 22, 2002, 12:07
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electing all the governors at once (like we did with judges) is a good idea. there *are* too many elections
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November 22, 2002, 14:30
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The idea is that after we've seen how many people want to be Governors, and once we have a DIA, they will draw up the regions. However, as this is still under discussion, the amendment does not include it. I agree with DBTS, a general description of what the Governor is to do under the Rights and Duties is a good idea IMHO.
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Good point, let us elect the DIA first before we get into the discussion of what the regions should be.
On a side note to that, once the regions are decided upon will they be set in stone or open to expansion? Seeing as we will be creating more bases and will need to organize those bases in terms of regions as well, which either would result in the creation of more regions (in which case we will need more governors), or the expansion of existing regions (leading to an increase in responsibility of existing governors). Personally I would as of now prefer the latter since we do not know how many people are interested in holding the position of governor.
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November 22, 2002, 15:08
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i think a combination of them both would be in order....if one region because of expanision it twice the size of the other ones we need to cut that one up in 2 or 3 regions
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November 23, 2002, 05:12
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I agree with DBTS...
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