November 22, 2002, 23:03
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What i meant by 'puzzle based' was that once you've worked out your network or got your initial cash cow going you can sit back and wait. Now this is simplyfying it a bit but it just felt that after a while i wasn't playing against the AI but against the map.
A poor initial start with just a few industries/cities in the wrong place could find you really struggling. Even the strategy guide lists certain starting conditions for some scenarios if you want to have a chance of completing them or winning gold.
Once you've found a winning strategy there's often little reason to deviate from it.
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November 23, 2002, 12:39
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Certainly, a good start helps, and certain starts help even more. The strategy guide is wrong, however - the author did not play as many games as I did.
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November 23, 2002, 13:41
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I plan to buy RRT2 Platinum sometime in the nearish future - it's on a "3 games for £20" offer at GAME.
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November 24, 2002, 00:39
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Yeah, but what are the other two games?
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November 24, 2002, 10:13
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There's a selection. Quite possibly Shogun: Total war and CtP:2.
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November 24, 2002, 14:58
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
What do you mean?
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Nevermind.  I was posting that in the middle of the night, so I was only 50% awake.
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November 25, 2002, 19:08
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It's been a while now But let's see... I enjoyed RRT2, but I remember being disappointed somehow. Am I wrong, or was it limited replayabilty? No map generator? Anyone confirm this? Thanks.
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November 25, 2002, 19:39
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The game has a very good (IMO) map editor that has a special event programming language and otherwise too a working interface. Maybe you just didn't like the genre?
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November 25, 2002, 22:48
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Okay, if you have never played the original, RR2 is playable as long as you aren't expecting a real railway building game but more a financial type of thing.
Again, I found PopTop's weird design have all the details at the wrong places, making the whole thing very confusing and disorienting. IMO, a much better design is Avalon Hill's 1828 or SSI's Rails West!.
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November 27, 2002, 09:48
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Hey, Ras where is that promised column? I am very anxious to hear all the details that you have about RRTIII!
So long...
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November 27, 2002, 10:52
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It's either on Markos' or Dan's hard drive. If they still have it.
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November 27, 2002, 11:26
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To whomever it may concern  :
When will it be posted?
So long
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November 28, 2002, 11:27
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I loved RT and RT2. I think my absolute favourite transport game would have to be Transport Tycoon deluxe, but RT comes close. I finally consigned my 5.25" disk version to the dustbin a couple of years ago with a real sense of regret.
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November 29, 2002, 00:12
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Agreed. It was a groundbreaking game that firmly established MicroProse - and more importantly - Sid.
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November 29, 2002, 04:40
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I'd just like to make a quick point on graphics- the Amiga version of RT had really quite pretty graphics, very sharp and yet being able to see a lot of territory. I was totally shocked at how bad the IBM-compatible version of RT looked in comparison, really...
RT2's graphics are still better than both of course, but compared to the Amiga version, it's not such a required step.
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November 29, 2002, 21:18
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Rasbelin, have you ever played over a 56k modem?
I live in Croatia and I would play you if the lag isnt too big.
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November 30, 2002, 18:36
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Well SnowFire, we all kow that Amiga had much better graphics and was more powerful than the early PCs. Amiga's graphics still look good considering how old they are.
@VetLegion: That's not the Croatian flag, is it?
So long...
PS: Ras, would you email me the column  , I promise not to reveal anything.
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December 1, 2002, 08:35
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That's not the Croatian flag, is it?
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It is a sun, spreading its rays to all people of good will. what can be more innocent than that
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December 1, 2002, 12:23
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Well, soome people use it to annoy other people!
So long...
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December 1, 2002, 13:11
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Originally posted by VetLegion
Rasbelin, have you ever played over a 56k modem?
I live in Croatia and I would play you if the lag isnt too big.
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Nope, I haven't played any multiplayer games with a modem connection, but I assume you should be able to play.
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December 1, 2002, 13:15
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Originally posted by The Pioneer
PS: Ras, would you email me the column , I promise not to reveal anything.
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Sorry, but I don't have the writing anymore. An evil Greek stole it.
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February 21, 2003, 17:25
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Gotta love the search function...
I just recently discovered a copy of RRT2 Platinum for $10 in the bargain bin. I already had the original, but wanted the 2nd Century expansion & added scenarios.
RRT1 was one of my all-time favorites (yeah, I got Deluxe when it came out too). It was the main game I played on my (then) new 386 compatible. Prior to that, it was Pirates! on my C-64.
Re: the differences between RRT1 and 2... for the most part I like RRT2's changes. I miss being able to build a steel mill (or whatever) if there isn't one there. I miss tunnels. And I'm not a huge fan of the bronze/silver/gold "win conditions" - particularly because I don't like the personal wealth based ones. I like building a successful railroad, but I'm not as enthusiastic about playing the market.
-Arrian
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February 24, 2003, 01:12
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I remember playing RT for many hours.
Later when I got hold of a copy of RTdx, I was kind of disapointed since there was no longer the England map.(which was my favourite)
But the biggest disapointment was RT2. It seemed all the charm of RT was replaced with beer and pretzils eye candy. Plus, I think they gave it the wrong name.
It should have been called Stock Market Tycoon.
Transport Tycoon was a lot of fun though.
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February 24, 2003, 08:51
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Indeed. PopTop made exactly the wrong changes.
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February 24, 2003, 08:56
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hmm
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February 24, 2003, 13:22
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I've done just fine in RT2, for the most part, and I'm far from adept with the market manipulations. Perhaps the train management isn't quite up to the level of the original (wouldn't know as I haven't played it), but there's certainly an interesting game there.
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February 25, 2003, 09:43
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I haven't played the original either and the game is awesome. Sometimes it does help when you cannot compare.
So long...
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