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View Poll Results: What will our government structure be? Read first!
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Proposal 2
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Proposal 3
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66.67% |
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Proposal 6
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5.56% |
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Dont Care\Abstain
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November 21, 2002, 07:21
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#1
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King
Local Time: 08:22
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: of Natal, Brazil
Posts: 2,555
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Government Positions (Final)
This is the run-off poll to decide which government position our democracy game will have.
Those are the proposal, so vote wise!
And make our democracy game a better game!
Proposal 2
President
- Empire settings, sliders, government type, sci-rate, pw-rate (little work)
- Running the game (lot of work?)
- Diplomacy
Minister of Defense
- Military Units (lot of work)
- Special units, except settlers (not so much work)
Minister of Domestic Affairs
- City build orders (lot of work)
- City Management, specialists (avg work)
- Science (little work)
- City placement/naming, settlers
Minister of Infrastructure
- Terraforming/Infrastructure (lot of work)
- Trade (little work)
Proposal 3
President
- Empire settings, sliders, government type, sci-rate, pw-rate (little work)
- Running the game (lot of work?)
Minister of Defense
- Military Units (lot of work)
- Special units, except settlers (not so much work)
Minister of Domestic Affairs
- City build orders (lot of work)
- City Management, specialists (avg work)
- City placement/naming, settlers
Minister of Infrastructure
- Terraforming/Infrastructure (lot of work)
Minister of Trade, Science and Diplomacy
- Trade (little work)
- Science (little work)
- Diplomacy
Proposal 6
President/Grand Apolyton:
- runs the game
- can make suggestion about changing the government (unless revolution (impeachment) occurred)
- diplomacy
- can poll about sliders (food/work/gold/PW/science)
- can decide about war-/piece-time (military-slider)
- veto right for special actions for special units.
- decides where to place PW-actions.
Minister of Domestic Affairs:
- City management (specialists/queue)
- can request PW to be used for terraforming/improvments (towards president, who will have to poll)
- expansion of cities (where.....)
- takes care of settlers.
Minister of Money:
- advances to be researched
- can request change of slider for science input/gold (towards president, who will have to poll).
- trade-routes
- request towards MDA (minister of Dom......) caravans to be build.
Supreme Commander:
- all military units, unless otherwise noted.
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November 21, 2002, 07:29
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#2
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King
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I just voted 3.
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November 21, 2002, 07:38
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#3
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King
Local Time: 12:22
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: France
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November 21, 2002, 10:20
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#4
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
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ok, I'll go with proposal 3, but I want the control of the unconventional units to go to the Ministry of Trade/Science/Diplomacy. I'll start a poll about that if proposal 3 is accepted in this poll.
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November 21, 2002, 10:41
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#5
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Prince
Local Time: 13:22
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Posts: 351
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Option 3 sounds the most balanced – but there is some good stuff in Option 6. I went with 3 anyway. 
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November 21, 2002, 12:14
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Local Time: 06:22
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Originally posted by mapfi
ok, I'll go with proposal 3, but I want the control of the unconventional units to go to the Ministry of Trade/Science/Diplomacy. I'll start a poll about that if proposal 3 is accepted in this poll.
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it doesn't work that way. either you accept the proposal as is, or you reject it. people are voting to having the minister of the military keep control of the special units. These proposals have been selected for the runoff because people voted for them before. What you are suggesting is adding a new proposal, but we've gotten pas that point. This poll is basically a runoff of the top vote getters from the last poll.
Sorry, but your proposal didn't make the cut i guess
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November 21, 2002, 12:43
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#7
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Deity
Local Time: 13:22
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Actually, mapfi made his proposal before Pedrunn started this thread (and also weeks before that, but we had simply forgotten about that), but Pedrunn ignored the comment when making this thread (although I'm sure that wasn't deliberate). A seperate poll on this wouldn't hurt, just like we'll have to have a seperate poll on where the empire sliders should go. We could even combine the two (like I did with pollution and bloodlust for the mapsettings)...
Quite frankly, if we must go with proposal 3, I agree with mapfi. I still strongly prefer proposal 2, as I think it will be hard enough to find 4 ministers all the time, let alone 5. But if we go with 5 ministers, give the 5th minister some work to do. Adding unconventional warfare to the diplomacy/trade/science minister is a very logical thing to do, the concepts are all related (especially diplomacy and UW).
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November 21, 2002, 12:50
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#8
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Prince
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That's about how I'd have summed it up Locutus, thanks.
Additionally, as long as we're in the setup process there's no constitution to those polls. Those registered here agree with everybody having the right to start a poll (nobody ever contested that). So that's the way it'll be until we start.
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November 21, 2002, 13:26
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#9
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King
Local Time: 13:22
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Voted proposal 2, but i'll also vote in the other poll to put the empire settings under the Minister of Infrastructure.
I wish the first post would've taken those other (yet to come?) polls about empire settings and special units into account.
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November 21, 2002, 13:32
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#10
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King
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About the minister of trade assuming the control over uncoventional units I made the following comment in the other thread:
"I also think the minister of defense has already too much work.
As i proposed in my initial sugestion
Maybe this will be another poll ( BTW: Locutus, the suggestion is not different from a amendment poll at all, as i declared i would start one  )
But before lets make a the run-off poll (2 + 3 + 6)"
If you click in my initial proposal you will see that the minister of diplomacy is the one in control of unconventional unit. Therefore, i will be probably the first one to start a thread having the minister of diplomacy in charg of the unconventional units, AND other poll to have the minister of infrastructure the power over the empire sliders.
I did not forgot mapfi idea at all, actually i am a one of the biggest enthusiastics to have it. But as i declared. lets finish this poll first
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Kill thousands and you are a conquer.
Kill all and you are a God!"
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November 21, 2002, 14:19
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King
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But as i declared. lets finish this poll first
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I was under the impression that the polls would be at the same time.
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November 21, 2002, 21:40
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King
Local Time: 04:22
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seems 3 will win
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November 21, 2002, 22:28
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Local Time: 11:22
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#3 and #6 seem the best, but #6 seems a bit overloaded on power for the President.
We might as well spread the wealth of accountability for the game!
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November 22, 2002, 18:44
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King
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*bump*
Enough number of prople have voted already compared to the distance between the most voted proposals.
I guess tomorrow we can finalize this poll. And finish up the last article of the constitution as soon as possible.
Everybody agrees?
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Kill all and you are a God!"
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November 22, 2002, 18:48
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King
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ehm, NO, since the empire sliders and special units still haven't been polled.
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