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So if 49% cannot find New York. How stupid must those (70-49=) 21% that can find N.Y. but not New Jersey be?
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LOL
What was the age group
5-7 Year Old's
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November 21, 2002, 09:27
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9% of French didn't know what organisation the Euro was the currency of...
Don't they ever get a little bit curious about why all the money changed shape about a year ago...?
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November 21, 2002, 09:32
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Wow... I'm so amazed. These results are real, no doubt...
IMO, a person that is 18 years old but can't find his own country on the map is a retard. I don't care less for USA, yet I know locations of some of their major cities (well Washington and New York for sure  ). Then, I'm also pretty sure I know where every European country is, and where is every country that is a world's major.
And I can't find Palestine even after hours of looking at the map...
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November 21, 2002, 09:34
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Maybe those 9% are very rich (don't pay attention to the prices), and they use only credit cards...
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November 21, 2002, 09:35
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I'm sure a lot of those 11% vote Republican.
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November 21, 2002, 09:35
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Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
LOL
What was the age group
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18-24 
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November 21, 2002, 09:38
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I don't like these kinds of polls anyways. They usually test like 1,000 people and state that this represents the entire country
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November 21, 2002, 09:40
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I'm sure a lot of those 11% vote Republican.
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I am wandering how more Americans know where Argentina is than Israel 
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November 21, 2002, 09:50
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Took the survey... not hard... maybe the American stereotype has something right about it...
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November 21, 2002, 09:51
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Stop bashing the Americans! 
They may not have the biggest brains, but the biggest bombs for sure
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November 21, 2002, 09:56
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I don't like these kinds of polls anyways. They usually test like 1,000 people and state that this represents the entire country
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that's normal prosedure, and usually very accurate.
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November 21, 2002, 10:00
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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics .
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November 21, 2002, 10:07
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The whole Europe *****es (with good reason) about the miserable education in Germany and I used to agree on this, but when I read this article, I begin to believe, that our schools can't be that bad.
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November 21, 2002, 10:34
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I'm sure they are better than ours, Sir Ralph, at least with regard to geography...and probably most other subjects as well. Geography is something that is badly neglected (IMO) in U.S. public education. The reason I know far more than the average American about geography isn't because I'm smarter than the average American, but because my father, who was the product of a British education in the 1930s (memories of the Empire, what-what), considered it important and passed that on to me (he also had a gift for making it interesting - he's been to most of the places on that globe thingy). To this day I love maps. *shrug*
I remember having tests on US states & their capitols, which I suck at (I know the states, but could care less about the capitols), but can't remember anything major on world geography, which is sad. As a student of history, I can't imagine trying to understand people & events in a foreign land without first knowing where it is.
These survey results come out every few years, and they are always apalling. When I was a senior in highschool, one study found that over 50% of American HS seniors could not find the PLACE WHERE THEY LIVED on a map.
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November 21, 2002, 10:37
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that's normal prosedure, and usually very accurate.
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Only accurate if you have the right 1,000 people. 
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November 21, 2002, 10:38
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I suspect the 11% that can't find the United States are illiterate.
Our educational system, long dominated by the Democrat party and their union cronies, is a disaster.
Thank god we still have the brain drain working for us.
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November 21, 2002, 10:38
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And....this is a bad thing?
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November 21, 2002, 10:57
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Ehh isn't Detroit the murder capital of America? (or is thar Washington d.c.?)
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November 21, 2002, 11:01
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Only accurate if you have the right 1,000 people.
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of course. but I'm sure a serious organisation like national geographic picked the right people...
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November 21, 2002, 11:14
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Only accurate if you have the right 1,000 people.
It only has to be a random sample, how hard can that be
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November 21, 2002, 11:17
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of course. but I'm sure a serious organisation like national geographic picked the right people...
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Hard to say for sure. They had Roper (a well respected research company) do the study. But after reviewing the data, they don't provide any information on how the sample was selected beyond age and number of people.
Obviously, if they sampled only in the inner cities (poorer and less educated) you would see different results than if they sampled in the rich suburbs outside the cities where the education is better.
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November 21, 2002, 11:20
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I think the better headline would be:
"Despite woeful geographic knowledge, U.S. still kicks European ass in economics, industry and technology..."
Wooo, that was exhausting...there's my macho jingoism for the year!
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November 21, 2002, 11:27
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undoubtely God is blessing America....
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November 21, 2002, 11:28
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of course. but I'm sure a serious organisation like national geographic picked the right people...
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What motive do you suppose an organization like the National Geographic Soceity would have in wanting to funnel more resources into geographic awareness?
I wonder what kind of survy the National Dairy Council will come up with.
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November 21, 2002, 11:57
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Good point, Sprayber, but on the other hand, National Geographic is a rather reputable source.
But this is the way its done. You may all be like "Pish-aww! Lies, all of it!" (Or you're probably nothing like that...  )
But bare in mind that the people you associate yourselves with might be above par. I know that just being in college that the people I associate myself with have never in their lives been exposed to the level of ignorance and stupidity I grew up with in my old high school.
(I really dropped the shields with that one.. fire away, boys  )
So I wouldn't be surprised that 11% of Americans couldn't spot the USA on a map. There are some remarkably ignorant people in this world... and in all likelihood, they couldn't spot it on a map because they've never SEEN a map of the world as a whole. I remember when I was little, I confused North America with America, and thought that the world map looked a little funky... what I thought was Maine was actually eastern Canada. Well, I figured out my mistake like three weeks ago, so I can understand why people have a problem.
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November 21, 2002, 12:08
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While I don't doubt considerable levels of ignorance, I would be interested in seeing their sampling plan. (being in the business). It does seem a little high.
I guess, sime most of us here are gamesters that have played many different games that have many different MAPS, that our knowledge of geography would be considerably higher than the average. Which just makes stats like this sound slightly unbelievable. (except for the Euros that will believe anything negative published about the US, without question)
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November 21, 2002, 12:12
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What I'm really stunned about are the bad results for UK and more importantly Mexicans - I think they're close about beating even the US.
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November 21, 2002, 12:13
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Ouch...
Yeah, I would like to know how exactly they went about this...
I mean, if they took this poll in West Trenton, East Saint Louis, or South Central Los Angeles, I think its safe to say its fairly bias.
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November 21, 2002, 12:15
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I'm not surprised as the UK results David "I want my kid christened but i don't know into what religion" Beckham
is God to young people.
Ignorance is seen as a good thing and blonde,promiscuous nutcases who like shopping get voted into the top ten greatest Britons
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November 21, 2002, 12:19
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I'm sure a lot of those 11% vote Republican.
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All 33 of them. Read the survey results details, they chose a massive sample size of 300 people from the selected countries.
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