November 22, 2002, 19:50
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Best starting positions ?
OK, I know we had a thread some time ago regarding the worst starting positions... I just begun an emperor game as the Russians, all random, and here's what I first see.
I think I'll love the Russians for once
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November 22, 2002, 19:54
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i assume this post to be meant as an ironical musing? moving one square to the left comprises one of the all time greatest starting positions in my ever so humble opinion.
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November 22, 2002, 20:14
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Yep, I've never had such a fantastic starting position (by moving my settler one tile to the left, there is one more cattle ).
I wonder if some people here even had something better
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November 22, 2002, 20:15
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Seconded. Wow. Spiffor, you should post the 4000 BC SAV for new players.
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November 22, 2002, 20:18
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Keep us updated on the progress of this one, Spiffor. I'd like to see how far out in front you get. That is the best starting location I've ever seen. It's downright beautiful
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November 22, 2002, 20:23
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Actually, after some exploration, the land surrounding me doesn't look like a pangaea (I only play Russians when I feel having half the surface of the world), so I don't think I'll continue the game
Here's the save at the very beginnign for those who want some happiness after having a crapstart
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November 22, 2002, 20:26
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tsk tsk it's close to jungle and it doesn't get the river bonus
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March 5, 2003, 04:05
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March 5, 2003, 04:39
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Wonderful start, Spiffor. I hope the cows are not mad. What I see, is 3 cities with a granary and an output of 3 settlers in 4 turns or 3 workers in 2, if you can manage to get the shields (I don't see bonus grassland) and happiness on emperor.
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March 5, 2003, 07:35
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Sometimes good starting positions are not always obvious from the start, but they are just as good.
For example when you start on an island, together with the Egyptians.
Only to find out you are sitting on the only source of horses on the entire island.
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March 5, 2003, 11:20
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Wow.
As someone who tends to seek out nice starting spots, I have to say that's one of the best I've ever seen. One of the best, but I don't think THE best. I've had better (but not for a long time).
A lot of times, though, the surrounding land is terrible, meaning that what looked intially like an awesome start spot actually isn't any good.
-Arrian
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March 5, 2003, 11:55
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I've seen better..
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March 5, 2003, 12:07
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What if that goody huts contain a settler...
Now THAT would be the best start ever
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March 5, 2003, 13:29
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hi ,
the americans get goods ones all the time
have a nice day
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March 6, 2003, 17:37
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panag, what is it with you and the Americans lately??
Nice start, aaglo.
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March 7, 2003, 11:50
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Geez, I'd be in Civ3 heaven with a starting position like that...
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March 7, 2003, 13:51
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I seen better.....after I edited the map and restarted until got the starting position I wanted.
Pretty good for a randomly generated map.
Spec.
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March 8, 2003, 13:19
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I have just been through several restarts and this came up. The most bonus resources I have ever had! Pity about the jungle though - it will take ages to clear.
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March 8, 2003, 13:24
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It actually got better. There is a horse under Alesia and I managed to grab an iron with a city a little further to the right. I also have dyes, silk and furs with my bit of this continent, enough room for eight cities so I can build the FP and ivory within grabbing distance as soon as I get some Gallic Swords built.
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March 8, 2003, 13:47
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Originally posted by Theseus
panag, what is it with you and the Americans lately??
Nice start, aaglo.
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hi ,
the two traits they have make them excellent for play
there is no other reason behind it what so ever
have a nice day
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March 8, 2003, 14:59
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I got this one yesterday, as my first try... I will sure shoot for UP here...! (UP=Ultimate Power, see Start forum or Arrian for more details)
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March 8, 2003, 15:18
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Jesus Christ!
I'm not even 100% sure what I'd do with that...
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March 8, 2003, 15:27
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hi ,
extreme wealthy starting positions are best spread over several cities , ....
have a nice day
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March 8, 2003, 22:22
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hi,
Yeah, I know. In fact, the rest of this continent was pure crap... I managed to do something OK out of it...!
In fact, I started on the cow where is my worker so I had to move. I really devided to move in the right place!
have a nice day
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March 9, 2003, 04:49
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Originally posted by Theseus
panag, what is it with you and the Americans lately??
Nice start, aaglo.
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From panag's posts the last couple of weeks I'm guessing he's on the US payroll...
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March 9, 2003, 04:51
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Those would have been great starts for the ISDG
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March 9, 2003, 16:39
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Originally posted by Master Zen
Those would have been great starts for the ISDG
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hi ,
well if we would have started as the americans , .....
well what you want with those traits and its combination , .....
have a nice day
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March 9, 2003, 17:34
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panag, really, what's the deal with your pro-US leanings going all the way as to saying that the US gets better starting positions?????
what mysterious statistical phenomenon makes the US get better starts at civ3?
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March 10, 2003, 10:37
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The best start I ever had was in the Intersite Democracy game. Obviously can't post any screen pics.
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March 10, 2003, 11:38
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Originally posted by Master Zen
panag, really, what's the deal with your pro-US leanings going all the way as to saying that the US gets better starting positions?????
what mysterious statistical phenomenon makes the US get better starts at civ3?
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hi ,
A - take each civ , large or huge map ( 256 X 256 at least ) starts ten times with each civ , ...... you shall understand , ......
B - industrious and expansionist combined together
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