upgrade all

jjgarcia · November 25, 2002, 07:54

is it possible to upgrade all units of one kind of infantry or military unit at the same time?? or do you need to rigorously send them to cities with barracks and individually upgrade them all?

The Count · November 25, 2002, 08:00

Shift + U will do the trick. Only requirement is that the unit is in a city with barracks at the time.

Spiffor · November 25, 2002, 08:53

You still have to send indivdual units in a city with barracks. When you shift-U, the price required will be for all units of the same type located in barracked cities.

vmxa1 · November 25, 2002, 14:22

I think they will need movement points as well.

Stuie · November 25, 2002, 14:31

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Originally posted by vmxa1
I think they will need movement points as well.

Not in my experience; only one needs movement points left. I've moved units into cities, expending all their movement points, and then used another unit with movement available to perform the shift-U. All of the units upgrade, those with and those without movement points remaining.

vondrack · November 25, 2002, 14:56

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Originally posted by Stuie
Not in my experience; only one needs movement points left. I've moved units into cities, expending all their movement points, and then used another unit with movement available to perform the shift-U. All of the units upgrade, those with and those without movement points remaining.

I believe you are right, but it works ONLY with Shift-U used from the F3 screen. IMHO, this is a small bug and it was not meant to be so, as you are not able to upgrade individual units when they run out of movement points.

Stuie · November 25, 2002, 14:59

I don't use the F3 screen. If you have an active unit in a city with a barracks and do shift-U, it upgrades all the units of that type, movement or no. Perhaps it is a bug, but I'm happy to keep it.

lateralis · November 25, 2002, 20:52

another thing that's good to know is that you can select any of the unit you want to upgrade and hit a shift-U on it, even if it's not in a barracked city. ie. you have a bunch of spearman in cities that are barracked but the only one left with movement points is not in a barracked city. shift-u that unit and the ones that ARE in barracked cities will be upgraded. this is true at least in vanilla civ3, I don't have PTW so I can't speak for that.

lateralis

vondrack · November 25, 2002, 21:26

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Originally posted by Stuie
I don't use the F3 screen. If you have an active unit in a city with a barracks and do shift-U, it upgrades all the units of that type, movement or no. Perhaps it is a bug, but I'm happy to keep it.

Correct, I did not realize you could initiate the mass upgrade from outside the F3 screen. Basically, you need an appropriate unit that still has some movement points left... as long as you have such, you are able to mass upgrade all units of that kind (as lateralis points out, even if you have you last "moveable" unit outside any barracked cities).

Theseus · November 25, 2002, 22:14

This is actually a pretty subtle technique that I use in almost every game.

Jaybe · November 25, 2002, 22:49

I had NO IDEA that you could do upgrades/mass upgrades from the F3!

vmxa1 · November 25, 2002, 23:06

Yes, but if you have any elites that you want to hold back from upgrades, it is hard to tell from the F3 screen who is who.

The Pioneer · November 26, 2002, 03:23

Uhm, F3 screen?

So long...

Alex · November 26, 2002, 06:29

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Originally posted by The Pioneer
Uhm, F3 screen?

So long...

Military Advisor.

Homunculus · November 26, 2002, 16:41

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Originally posted by vmxa1
Yes, but if you have any elites that you want to hold back from upgrades, it is hard to tell from the F3 screen who is who.

[sarcasm]hmm, i tend to keep my elite spearmen into the modern age too[/sarcasm]
nah just kiddin'

I agree that it should be possible to keep those elites out (and maybe some others too, like a city in the middle of your country and you are a bit low on cash)

vmxa1 · November 26, 2002, 19:26

I only hold back offensive elites and only then if I will be using them soon. It is not common, but a consideration.

Mad Bomber · November 26, 2002, 21:16

Saving elites IMO is not the way to go. I woul rather have a vet cavalty unit than a elite knight. You lose the chance for a GL but You really only need a few anyway, so I say go ahead and upgrade all offensive units, in the long run it is worth it. The exception to this is if you have not had any GL's then it is recommened to save those elites for injured and/ or obsolete units to get your first GL, (to build army for HE and MA)

Theseus · November 26, 2002, 21:59

Depends on the defenders.

Dis · November 26, 2002, 22:42

thanks!

now I know why I couldn't do that. I was doing shift-u but not from the F3 screen.

I actually upgraded my units individually from the military advisor screen by right clicking the units.

vmxa1 · November 26, 2002, 23:49

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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Saving elites IMO is not the way to go. I woul rather have a vet cavalty unit than a elite knight. You lose the chance for a GL but You really only need a few anyway, so I say go ahead and upgrade all offensive units, in the long run it is worth it. The exception to this is if you have not had any GL's then it is recommened to save those elites for injured and/ or obsolete units to get your first GL, (to build army for HE and MA)

What I said is in agreement with this statement. Normally I will upgrade, but say I have a few elite Riders and I am already at war and I know I will be seeing some lessor units on this turn or the next. I may as well let those Riders get in a whack and see if I can make a leader. I can upgade at any time. If no war or I expect to see knights or calv then I will surely upgrade those Riders. So all I am saying is there is often a situation that you may be able to make an exception to the upgrade and possibly benefit.

Jaybe · November 27, 2002, 00:25

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Originally posted by Jaybe
I had NO IDEA that you could do upgrades/mass upgrades from the F3!

Finally found it. Right-Click on the unit to upgrade. I presume Upgrade All is also available when appropriate.

Tattila the Hun · November 27, 2002, 08:04

Nice thing is, if I have 5 riders at their reds (in HP), and upgrade them, they get their health back.

vmxa1 · November 27, 2002, 14:43

That has come in very handy a few times.