The big Army-Bug??

twilight · November 25, 2002, 09:59

Got a problem with armies.

I worked on a big scenario, checked it out, then I noticed that I couldn't build armies with the military academy.

What the heck, I said, and tried to find out why. There were no difference between the army in my scenario and the army in the other originals.

So I thought it could be a problem in the PTW-textfile. I used the original by then but the problem was'nt solved.

Then I tried an original scenario, the same!

Okay, something went terribly wrong I thought and deinstalled/installed CIV and PTW new.

The problem stayed. Not only with my personal scenario, no, also in the originals in the fresh installed game.

I did as follow:

I edited an orig scenario, placing a big city with all imporvements controlled by "Player1". At the same location I placed a leader, some units and an army.

Problem 1: The leader is able to hurry a building, but can't build an army! I think this is the most important thing.

Problem 2: The Army can't be build with the military academy.

I tried to find out why and checked the following things.

1: In general settings there are two points where you can define leader and army. All okay.
2: The army could be only available after a certain technology. All okay.
3: The unit-stats could be different. No, they are identical and available for that Civ I used. The leader's ability to build armies is checked.

Is there another thing I forgot? Heck, it's the fresh installed game, too!

Do anyone know more?

NeoStar · November 26, 2002, 06:25

I've heard the game is built as such that for the Academy to function the civ must have prevoiusly made an Army created from a Great Leader, no exceptions. Try fighting as a civ in your scn in a huge battle, create a leader, create an army and see if it begins to work.

If that's the case, that's REALLY annoying for scenarios - as you've found.

twilight · November 26, 2002, 09:24

And it's even worse. My leaders CANNOT build armies. I tried it. I play CivIII for a long time and I know how this should work. But there is no order to build an army for the leaders. Strange.

Willem · November 27, 2002, 10:31

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Originally posted by twilight

Is there another thing I forgot? Heck, it's the fresh installed game, too!

Do anyone know more?

Did you change the number of cities required in order to build an Army? The default is 4 and it sounds like you only had the one, so you wouldn't be able to build one.

Willem · November 27, 2002, 10:33

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Originally posted by NeoStar
I've heard the game is built as such that for the Academy to function the civ must have prevoiusly made an Army created from a Great Leader, no exceptions. Try fighting as a civ in your scn in a huge battle, create a leader, create an army and see if it begins to work.

If that's the case, that's REALLY annoying for scenarios - as you've found.

That's just a flag you can uncheck in the editor called "Requires a Victorious Army".

twilight · November 27, 2002, 14:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Willem
Did you change the number of cities required in order to build an Army? The default is 4 and it sounds like you only had the one, so you wouldn't be able to build one.

Indeed, this one I've forgotten. After trying I have to say, that it did'nt work.

But thanks.

dmhigginson · December 6, 2002, 22:23

I seem to have the same bug. I got a leader but am only given the hurry command. There is no button to build an army.

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trevor · December 16, 2002, 01:18

So did you change the city req. or put three additional cities on the map?

alva · December 16, 2002, 03:25

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I seem to have the same bug. I got a leader but am only given the hurry command. There is no button to build an army.

hmm, I had the same thing...

Did you try to build the army in a native or conquered city??
Mine was a conquered one, I just assumed they changed the rules somewhat, but after seeing this thread, I highly doubt it

dmhigginson · December 18, 2002, 01:35

I think I tried all my cities. My goal for the game however was to try to finally get an army so I started a war fairly early. I may not have had enough cities. In frustration I apperantly did not save the game to test the theory though.

In a new game this weekend I did finally build an army, it was later in the game and I had many cities at the time. I suspect for me it was probably a rule I wasn't aware of rather than a bug.

alva · December 18, 2002, 06:02

You (only) need 4 cities to be able to support one army.
hmm, strange

Rusty Nail · December 20, 2002, 15:46

There is definitely a button for "build army" in PTW if you activate the leader in a city. Just double-checked to be sure.