November 29, 2002, 21:20
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Prince
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York is a great City to visit, and let's not forget these days, it's still the Capital of the Countries greatest County.
1) Current home , Derby, East Midlands, England
Pros
Quite a green city, with many large parks. Not too big and hence doesnt suffer from bad crime.
Cons
Prospects slightly limited, Nightlife poor.
2) Old home, Rotherham
What a place!! all around is the devestation of an ex-industrial stronghold. Scrapyards and Shut down industrial plants are more common than Grass in Rotherham.
Pros
Suberb Football team, only team in Div 1 with standing remaining too
Very Very Cheap, for England
Cons
Highest Teenage pregnacy rate in EUROPE ( or maybe that a pro for some ) .
Poor Prospects
Dead town centre
Scrapyards get dull and annoying, after so many years...
Cheers
Matt
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November 29, 2002, 21:56
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King
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Edinburgh (ed-in-bur-ah)
Info: Population 500000, capital of Scotland.
Pros: Fine architecture all over, built on a series of hills for a 3D street plan. Packed with lots of interesting attractions and plenty of pubs and clubs. Enormous parks dotted across the city, not least the volcanic plug Arthurs Seat. A top-notch university, and several other ones. Home to many famous sons.
Cons: Fine architecture often filthy and punctuated with modernist cubes. Streets rather dirty. Dismal weather. Bursting with tourist tat, at least as bad as York. The festival is overpriced. Birthplace and childhood home of Tony Blair.
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November 29, 2002, 22:02
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November 29, 2002, 22:06
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Zagreb, Croatia (pop around 800 000)
safe. best looking girls in the world. very good education possibility. shitty economy - not very good job possibility. not very expensive. bad traffic.
impressions of tourists: 'people dont smile to us on the street', 'no wonder economy is in trouble when caffes are full from morning to night' etc etc.
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November 29, 2002, 22:10
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King
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-Buenos Aires, Argentina- (Where I currently live)
Good: A lot of trees in my part of town... Nice downtown.
Bad: Too big...
Ugly: Rising crime rate has forced the police to put up to 4,000 more policemen out on the streets. Most of which are carrying FMK-3 SMGs (link below). Increasing kidnapping rate. Rising amount of riots. Near economic collapse.
Despicable: Politicans. Some politicans are proposing to put soldiers on the street... or was that just Menem? Maybe that isn't a bad idea... but giving power to the army here on the other hand is not a good idea.
I wouldn't recommend this city... but it is okay...
FMK-3:
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg54-e.htm
-Salamanca, Spain- (Where most of family in Spain lives)
Good: Named Cultural Captial of Europe for 2002. Excellent marble architecture for new buildings, stunning old buildings. And great cafes, and great cafes, and great cafes... did I mention there were great cafes? Also streets are friendly. And there is a stunning university here.
Bad: ???? If you like modern cities with a bunch of glassy buildings this isn't the city to be in. Try Madrid for that.
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November 29, 2002, 23:41
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King
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Ulen, Minnesota. Pop. 500, 45 miles (85?km) NE of Fargo, North Dakota.
Ulen is as boring as watching paint dry. half of the population is over 55 and 15% of Ulenites live in the local nursing home. We have a brand new K-12 school that is really nice, we have a spiffy computer lab. There are a lot of corn and sugar beet farmers in this area, this being some of the most rich farmland in the world. Ulen is an old railroad town founded by railroad officer Ole Ulen in 1876.
My recomondation, don't come, its boring.
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November 29, 2002, 23:46
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King
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Marvellous Melbourne. The world's most liveable city...
Culturally diverse, with large Jewish, Greek, Lebanese and Vietnamese populations and a Chinese Australian mayor. A wealth of superb cuisines, from standard Aussie Pacific fusion to the Flower Drum Chinese restaurant, and Richmond's excellent pho cafes, with Ethiopian and Burmese restaurants too. Did I mention the food?
A splendid collection of art at the National Gallery of Victoria, and a newly opened centre for Australian art at Federation Square. The site of the Beatles' largest audience in the Southern Hemisphere, a venue for international sporting events, and the Midsumma Lesbian and Gay festival. It's where 'The Secret Life of Us' is filmed, and where Australia's most notorious/famous bushranger, Ned Kelly, was hanged.
The regenerated Yarra River is seeing new buildings on its banks, is home to sports such as canoeing and rowing, and early evening barbecues in the neighbouring public parks. There's a healthy theatre scene and excellent musical venues.
Public transport could be better integrated, with priority really being given to trams, and in terms of architecture and conservation, there should be a city wide approach, with more powers divested to local councils.
The weather is mainly fine, with the low temperatures never getting below autumnal levels in Britain, and it hardly ever gets as hot as the Top End, or the interior.
Sea breezes, penguin colonies and an absence of bush fires.
My island home...
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November 29, 2002, 23:57
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King
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Bristol - well, just tonight I saw a play (Oleanna by David Mamet), wandered to a jazz pub, had some time to kill after that so I popped into a casino, then into a late night bar where I bumped into TV's Jamie Bamber who was fresh from playing Prince Hal in Henry IV (bumped into in the literal sense, not talked to or anything...), all within half a square mile.
But if experience has taught me anything, it's that the more Snapcase hates something, the better it is, so I'm sorely tempted to move to York...
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November 30, 2002, 00:01
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Current residence: Waikato, New Zealand
Pros: Near the Coromandel beaches, stunning blue water and lovely sand. Near to Auckland, in the country with stunning forests, and absolutely incredible scenery. Good nightlife in Auckland and Hamilton Near Lake Taupo and Mt. Ruapehu, an active volcano Also near the famous Waitomo Caves, with a huge abyss, the deepest in the world
Cons: Near Ngaruawahia (a shanty town). Near Tirau (The "home" of Corrigated iron. It's tourist information centre is a corrugated iron sheep)
My Old Home: Reading, UK (lived there for 2 years)
Pros: Reading Festival (nice excuse to get drunk. Apparently last year... A guy walked around saying "Come and get your grass!". People bought the grass thinking it was weed, and found out they'd been conned. Then they went to the poice saying they payed for drugs and got grass, and were arrested for attempting to buy drugs ). The home of Reading FC. Reading Abbey, (the grave of Henry II, IIRC). The Reading Lion( the sculptor of which commited suicide when he realised he screwed up the legs)
Cons: Kosovan refugees mixing with Indians and Yugoslavs in a corner of town.
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November 30, 2002, 00:03
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Marvellous Melbourne. The world's most liveable city...
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Skimming over the fact it's Australia's dumbest city, says an IQ test.
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November 30, 2002, 00:11
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King
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Originally posted by redbull
Skimming over the fact it's Australia's dumbest city, says an IQ test.
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Which makes the average i.q. twice that in New Zealand then?
You skimmed over Reading's appalling one way system. I had a taxi driver ask me for directions when I was there. Don't forget Reading Gaol either.
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November 30, 2002, 00:14
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King
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I once had a bus driver in Bristol stop the bus and ask me if I knew where his bus route was meant to end, as I was walking along the street..
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November 30, 2002, 02:52
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Deity
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No wonder you can't get a job .
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Naw, the economy always tanks when the Republicans take office.
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November 30, 2002, 02:55
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King
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Edinburgh (ed-in-bur-ah)
Info: Population 500000, capital of Scotland.
Pros: Fine architecture all over, built on a series of hills for a 3D street plan. Packed with lots of interesting attractions and plenty of pubs and clubs. Enormous parks dotted across the city, not least the volcanic plug Arthurs Seat. A top-notch university, and several other ones. Home to many famous sons.
Cons: Fine architecture often filthy and punctuated with modernist cubes. Streets rather dirty. Dismal weather. Bursting with tourist tat, at least as bad as York. The festival is overpriced. Birthplace and childhood home of Tony Blair.
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*Cough* The city-centre. All the homeless beggars and junkies.
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November 30, 2002, 02:57
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Vancouver BC Canada, i believe the polls for top places in the world would aptly describe this city
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November 30, 2002, 04:41
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Deity
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Hong Kong, one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world. There are a lot of expats live here, but half of the year the weather is bloody hot. Home to seven million people and everybody is rude - or so it seems
We have lots of skyscrappers here, in fact, I believe the density of skyscrappers is highest in the world. We also have nice beaches, some historical sites, and lots of country parks. If you like hiking or observe wildwife this is a good place to be.
We also have one of the fewest social services among developed regions. The medium income is low and there are lots of poor people. However, there are also lots of rich areas where the new and old rich rub elbows.
We have low crime rates and violent crimes are particularly low. The main thing is scamming. Frauds, pyramid schemes, you name it, we got it. We even got some you haven't thought of.
It's a good place to live if you have $ or can find a high paying job (e.g. with expat package). Otherwise it's not that heavenly.
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November 30, 2002, 07:13
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Paris :
The good :
Beautiful city. You'll need time to be tired from its architecture, especially if you used to live in another city.
Good cafes, once you find your way and avoid all the overpriced crap for tourists. Great nightlife (same thing : once you find the right place)
Extremely good for shopping, and the most "japanized" western city (if you're into anime, it's the western city to go).
Best city I ever knew for the variety of its food and wines.
Trains are excellent, and allow you to go to other cities (Brussels, London, Cologne, Lyon, Marseille) pretty quickly. Planes are crap and always late though.
Good social security system. You pay much, but you get much in return. However, it's complicated, and a foreigner would have trouble to understand all the administration involved
The bad :
Many tourists, and many crook Frenchmen to profit from them. If you don't know your way around, you'll be constantly cheated into buying overpriced crap. These people really defile the reputation of Paris.
Crowded -10 mio. with the suburbs- especially in the hyper-center ( Les Halles). Good mass transit system, but car traffic is very bad. Parisians also drive like crazy and are very rude at the wheel.
People always seem sad and disappointed when in the subway.
Rents are extremely expensive in Paris " intra muros", you'd very probably have to live in the suburbs, and could live pretty far from the center.
More expansive than the rest of France, but it seems to be normal for a capital.
The Ugly
Rising in criminality since the last 10 or so years. Firearms aren't spread, but be careful not to be punched by a group of thugs. You'd be immediately targetted if you look like a tourist, and are at risk if you're a woman.
Police is becoming more and more facsist since a few months. Dunno where they'll stop.
I highly recommand to visit here if you have a Parisian friend who know the good places. Living here is pretty good as well, if you already have a job and a nice place to live.
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November 30, 2002, 07:35
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York is a great City to visit, and let's not forget these days, it's still the Capital of the Countries greatest County.
1) Current home , Derby, East Midlands, England
Pros
Quite a green city, with many large parks. Not too big and hence doesnt suffer from bad crime.
Cons
Prospects slightly limited, Nightlife poor.
2) Old home, Rotherham
What a place!! all around is the devestation of an ex-industrial stronghold. Scrapyards and Shut down industrial plants are more common than Grass in Rotherham.
Pros
Suberb Football team, only team in Div 1 with standing remaining too
Very Very Cheap, for England
Cons
Highest Teenage pregnacy rate in EUROPE ( or maybe that a pro for some ) .
Poor Prospects
Dead town centre
Scrapyards get dull and annoying, after so many years...
Cheers
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Derby looked pleasant enough when passing through it, but not particularly exciting. As for Rotherham...I have been through it and it looks like a right sh*thole, just like Sheffield looks like a right sh*thole, or Doncaster, or Barnsley. Is the whole of South Yorkshire just one big sh*thole?
One comes from East Yorkshire, of course
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November 30, 2002, 07:41
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The Dearne valley in South Yorkshire actually looks like it has been nuked
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November 30, 2002, 07:49
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Deity
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Yeah, Sheffield is one of those cities I would just avoid moving to. I've had friends who've liked it, but it doesn't seem to have half the stuff my home city has, it looks like a dump, and the last time I was there I had my car broken into. I don't intend to go back there unless I can avoid it.
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November 30, 2002, 08:11
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King
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*Cough* The city-centre. All the homeless beggars and junkies.
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After a while even the female beggars don't shock me.
Actually, all those redundant benches on Princes Street are another con. When was the last time they were even 10% full?
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November 30, 2002, 10:23
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King
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Remember yanks, come to a better country, Finland! Bring lots of money with you!
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November 30, 2002, 11:39
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King
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san francisco bay area...i love it here personally, feels a lot like home to me
The good:
Weather...never really drops below 50 degrees and never goes over 90. When hot its dry heat and not humid. Also the rainy season lasts about 4 months, december to march. There is a lot of fog towards san francisco but down towards san jose and about to redwood city not as bad a marine layer.
Mixed Culture: Lots of really different cultures all in one place. Vietnamese, Mexican, Filipino, Thai, Indian, all represented very well here and we have many very good ethnic restraunts as a result. Although there is a serious lack of greek restraunts.
Surroundings: The beautiful santa cruz mountains to the west, napa to the north, The grassy hills of the eastbay and southbay.
280: I love driving on 280 between 380 and when it turns into 880. its fast, rarely bad traffic, beautiful view.
Media: Very good radio programming, home to the nations only "jazz only" radio station KCSM run by college of san mateo(school im going to). Also good television and newspapers.
Universities: Stanford, Cal berkeley, Santa Clara, USF, and in general good state colleges and community colleges.
People: the people here are great. most are well educated and liberal! I love it!
Average
Night Life: there are quite a few spots to go and theres plenty to do, but im severely jaded by the night life scene.
Traffic, its only really bad when it rains. Unlike L.A. where there is gridlock at 11pm, it only gets bad at rush hour and only on certain parts like 80 across the bay, 680 and 880, 17 when theres an accident, 101 by oracle and 3rd ave and by the dubarton bridge, 880 is probably the worst, but only because its the only freeway running up and down the east bay.
Bad:
cost of living
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November 30, 2002, 13:16
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Prince
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You have Derby to a tee there, Nice enough but not very exciting.
As for south yorkshire, yes, it is a bit shithole , but there advantages of living there. For example, the house my parents live in, in thier lush estate most normal folk could not dream of... but because Rotherham as a town is SO SO SO Cheap, they can afford it.
Looking at the Job market in Rotherham, the wages are not much different to here in Derby, but the cost of property is nearly half!!
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November 30, 2002, 13:59
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Lovely Detroit...
The good:
This is a music town. Everything from Motown to techno is here, including a world-class Orchestra Hall and Opera Hall. Best music scene in the U.S outside of NYC.
Great club scene. We work our asses off, and party in appropriate fashion. Some of the best places to go are in undergrounds in abandoned warehouses and factories.
Great eats. Such a diverse city offers just about everything under the sun.
Sight-seeing. The flourescent toxins in the Detroit River provide great night-viewing for the whole family. And if you're lucky, you just might spot one of the reclusive Sabre-toothed Cyclops Mutant Carp ( Mammothus Pissedoffus Piscaeus ) which occasionally rise to the surface to ram the hulls of passing freighters.
The Bad:
If you can put up with these minor annoyances....
Violent, corrupt police
Corrupt, incompetent city government
Streetlights that occasionally work
Garbage that occasionally gets picked up.
Mass transit that occasionally arrives on time, if at all.
The pleasant bouquet of sulfur dioxide in the morning.
The lovely decorative accent of steel bars on all your doors and windows.
Packs of stray, feral dogs which like to feast on your household pets.
....why, you'll absolutely love it here!
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November 30, 2002, 14:10
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Yes, I have a good friend who's mother is from Detroit and he said he visits his relatives there...I remembering him describe the place as 'a f**king sh*thole'...or words to that effect, probably more blue however
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November 30, 2002, 14:12
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Prince
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St-Andrews(actually just outside).
Pros: Very pretty. Very relaxed. More pubs per square metre than anywhere else in Scotland. Thriving arts and theatre. Very healthy air and environment.
Cons: Too quiet. Pubs close at 1am. Too many students. Very few shops of merit. Too many old people, and there is always a funeral in town, making me late about once every 2 days!
Its a good place to retire, and I feel alot better surrounded by Fife's rolling countryside, but it lacks life
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November 30, 2002, 15:25
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Deity
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Did anyone else notice that this is a really interesting thread??
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November 30, 2002, 15:35
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Summary of what Datajack Franit said:
Milan...
1) Crowded subway system.
2) LOTS of tourists, including bloodthirsty japanese middle-aged women literally jumping on you for infos and photos.
3) So called "modern art" at every corner and extremely vulgar advertising (huge photos of a woman masturbating while sitting on a bidet used to sell jeans ) .
4) Parks invaded by horny gays on day, angry squatters at night.
5) McDonald's builded in front of churchs and art galleries
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1) Yes!! When I went, it was PACKED! Didn't help that there were strikes, too.
2) You're right about the Japanese. They were cool, though.
3) I've seen it. =x Took a picture of one. It was a naked man being spanked by a model with her shoe. There was another ad, for I don't know what, in which there was a very young-looking girl wearing a wet shirt or something that showed her entire body!
4) I have not seen this! When I go back, I'll have to look (for the gay guys).
5) Yes, I hate this as well. -.- The Italian McDonalds' are far superior to the American version, but damn they're EVERYWHERE! In certain parts of the city, it's fine, but it does seem a bit disrespectful to have a very fine church on one side of the street and a tacky McDonald's on the other. -.-
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I find it really funny that most people wouldn't recommend their home city/country! Maybe next week, I'll ask what place everyone WOULD want to live.
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November 30, 2002, 15:48
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I'd say Milan, but thats just me
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