I hate sim city - Page 2

Imran Siddiqui · December 3, 2002, 10:35

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Ah but I have stated why I think the games we are discussing should be classed as very similar in gameplay style. Your argument is mere unsubstantiated sophistry.

The Sims and SimCity are AS similar in gameplay as Starcraft and Civ2. The only thing they have in common is openendedness.

DrSpike · December 3, 2002, 10:49

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

The Sims and SimCity are AS similar in gameplay as Starcraft and Civ2.

I could not disagree more. Perhaps others will post their opinions.

Adagio · December 3, 2002, 10:50

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
The Sims and SimCity are AS similar in gameplay as Starcraft and Civ2.

I could not agree more.

DrSpike · December 3, 2002, 10:54

Not you.

Adagio · December 3, 2002, 11:07

Asher · December 3, 2002, 16:59

The Sims online is surprisingly good...

I got it to see how bad it was but it's pretty addictive.

I'm essentially a venture capitalist in the game now. I've got tons of money so I loan other people money to go start up businesses.

Thrawn05 · December 3, 2002, 17:44

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Originally posted by Asher
I'm essentially a venture capitalist in the game now. I've got tons of money so I loan other people money to go start up businesses.

So you became an evil loan officer? Good thing I signed up with DiTech.com.

Sarxis · December 3, 2002, 18:34

I love openended games- Morrowind, Grand Theft Auto 3, Simcity, etc. Heck, I guess fundamently CIV is openended in the sense that you simply need to survive as an empire, and where the ends justify the means.

ADG: did you really say "proberbly"? :O

War4ever · December 3, 2002, 23:13

i liked the sims for a week or two, but its boring after ahwile, sim city was fun, but its a different kind of fun.

Urban Ranger · December 4, 2002, 04:53

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Originally posted by DrSpike
A lot of people seem to be drawing a distinction between sim city and the sims. I have to say I do not see the difference.

Okay, the difference is The Sims is life, or what passes for life in the game. SimCity is larger than life.

You do what the Sims do in The Sims everyday, except faster, more efficient, more detailed, and in more sophisticated ways. I mean, I don't take five minutes to pee.

Adagio · December 4, 2002, 08:01

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Originally posted by Anun Ik Oba
ADG: did you really say "proberbly"? :O

I might have used the wrong word, I always forgets which one is which (of proberbly and properly, and if there exists more words, that I have forgotten, that looks like...)

DrSpike · December 4, 2002, 08:04

Don't worry.....I know native english speakers that say "supposably". Drives me nuts.

Adagio · December 4, 2002, 08:07

Hehe

Thrawn05 · December 4, 2002, 12:25

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Originally posted by DrSpike
Don't worry.....I know native english speakers that say "supposably". Drives me nuts.

That's nothing, my step-dad pronounces Automatic "ADA-matic".

DrSpike · December 4, 2002, 12:37

And there's an 'i' in alumin*i*um!

Back on topic before this degrades further:

So, we're all agreed that Sim games are generally (though not always) for non-serious gamers right? The sort of game your parents (who have just dragged themselves into the computer age) play is The Sims.

FlameFlash · December 4, 2002, 13:54

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Originally posted by 123john321
To tell you the truth... I only like SimCity, The Sims is a socal game (and I'm a loner and prond of it!) and the rest of the game suck! (And I should know, I played them all, the WROST was Sim Ant!)

I liked SimAnt...

Though The Sims suck...

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Originally posted by Juggler
I don't like simtower and other similar sim-experiments. SimCity is an exception.

While strange... I liked that one too...

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Originally posted by DrSpike
But since that is the most notable feature of both games you have to class them as similar. This is why I cannot understand people drawing a line between The Sims and Sim City.

The thing is... in SimCity you're controlling an aggregate open-endedness... while in The Sims your micromanaging... those things, while looking similar are quite different. It's why I like SimTower, SimCity, and not The Sims... SimAnt actually had a goal...

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To move the debate on though; I would say generally it is non-serious gamers who like the sim games. Most serious gamers prefer more demanding games with goals, but sim games appeal to more occasional gamers. The widespread success of the sims is indicative of this.

Discuss.

Can't argue there... though I have seen some pretty heavy role-players get lost in the Sims and found it funny when two people I knew played it on their computers, going back and forth, each dating each other both IRL and on-screen... just a little disturbing...

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Okay, the difference is The Sims is life, or what passes for life in the game. SimCity is larger than life.

You do what the Sims do in The Sims everyday, except faster, more efficient, more detailed, and in more sophisticated ways. I mean, I don't take five minutes to pee.

Is that how long it takes those little people?

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Originally posted by DrSpike
And there's an 'i' in alumin*i*um!

Back on topic before this degrades further:

So, we're all agreed that Sim games are generally (though not always) for non-serious gamers right? The sort of game your parents (who have just dragged themselves into the computer age) play is The Sims.

The part about parents being drug in and playing The Sims being non-serious gamers, most likely... maybe somebody should conduct a poll...

Skanky Burns · December 4, 2002, 19:59

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Originally posted by Asher
I'm essentially a venture capitalist in the game now. I've got tons of money so I loan other people money to go start up businesses.

Figures.

War4ever · December 4, 2002, 23:51

the sims was slow, so that was agitating, and besides there wasn't a sense of accomplishment..which seems to be something i need in a game

DrSpike · December 5, 2002, 05:15

That's because you're a serious gamer.......I feel the same way....it's all beginning to make sense now.

Adagio · December 5, 2002, 08:17

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Okay, the difference is The Sims is life, or what passes for life in the game. SimCity is larger than life.

You do what the Sims do in The Sims everyday, except faster, more efficient, more detailed, and in more sophisticated ways. I mean, I don't take five minutes to pee.

Only 5 minutes?

It's more like 30 minutes in gameplay...IF they're fast...

mrboo123 · December 5, 2002, 08:26

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Originally posted by War4ever
the sims was slow, so that was agitating, and besides there wasn't a sense of accomplishment..which seems to be something i need in a game

I agree with the sims, no sense of accomplisment, but I do get than when I build a Metorplolos! (Yes, I suck a spelling!)

Thrawn05 · December 5, 2002, 11:29

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Originally posted by 123john321

I agree with the sims, no sense of accomplisment, but I do get than when I build a Metorplolos! (Yes, I suck a spelling!)

That's okay, I adamaticly supposably feel the same way.

DrSpike · December 5, 2002, 11:35

Did you use aluminum?

FlameFlash · December 5, 2002, 13:35

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Originally posted by DrSpike
Did you use aluminum?

I consider myself a serious gamer... however I still enjoy SimCity...

DrSpike · December 5, 2002, 13:43

Oxymoron.

FlameFlash · December 5, 2002, 13:48

/me ponders the idea of being a Jumbo Shrimp

or an example of Military Intelligence

DrSpike · December 5, 2002, 14:04

I gave you a chance there to say "I am not an oxymoron".

FlameFlash · December 5, 2002, 14:12

True, but I've found I'm generally an exception to the rule...

Could we define "Serious" and "non-serious" gamers by genre, type, and goals (or lack of goals) available? I'm in need of clarification.

Adagio · December 5, 2002, 14:57

I'd say:

Serious gamers often plays games in the same genre (Which is everybody else I know)
Non-serious gamers plays many different types of genres (Which is me)

FlameFlash · December 5, 2002, 15:04

Multiple genres? That's kind of crummy...

I'm a RPGer (Squaresoft buyer).

Mega Man fan.

Street Fighter.

Strategy (Civ genre, not StarCraft genre)

Racer (SpyHunter and Mario Kart varieties.)

Pilot (Star Fox, want Jedi Starfighter)

Simer (SimCity style, not "The Sims" style)

etc. etc. etc.

Under those terms, I'm a non-serious gamer...