MOM2? (forgive the off topic thread)

Zanthis · December 5, 2002, 18:04

Please forgive the off topic thread, as I didn't know were else to ask this...

I've seen several people in this forum alude to a sequal to Master of Magic. Is there going to be a MOM2?

Randolph · December 5, 2002, 19:20

aparently it depends on how well MoO3 does...

Trifna · December 6, 2002, 11:24

So buy many copies!!!

MariOne · December 6, 2002, 11:44

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Originally posted by Zanthis
I didn't know were else to ask this...

helpful hint:
http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdisp...s=&forumid=149

In my humble opinion, Age of Wonders could easily be considered as a MoM2 stand in....
Personally, I still enjoy playing some MoM, from time to time.

Randolph · December 6, 2002, 12:29

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Originally posted by MariOne

In my humble opinion, Age of Wonders could easily be considered as a MoM2 stand in....

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Age of wonders is alright, but it's no MoM2. I wish I hadn't heard that before I bought AoW, I think the game would have been much more enjoyable if I wasn't expecting MoM2. It's really much more like HoMM than MoM.

MariOne · December 6, 2002, 13:04

Oh, well, as MoM is the only game in the genre that I ever "really" played before AoW, to me it was the closest to it, and I could be excused

I had indeed looked for some HoMM series game in the store shelves or bargain bins recently, but could find none...

vmxa1 · December 6, 2002, 15:10

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Originally posted by MariOne
Oh, well, as MoM is the only game in the genre that I ever "really" played before AoW, to me it was the closest to it, and I could be excused

I had indeed looked for some HoMM series game in the store shelves or bargain bins recently, but could find none...

You can not find any deals for Homm2 Gold or Homm3 complete? I see them all the time. Now with Millenium and Platium out, it should be cheap.
BTW I do not see AoW as a MoM sequel either, more as Homm/Warlords merger.

space_kritter · December 8, 2002, 03:07

Masters of Magic is probably the game with the most play over the years that I can think of. Even with it's outdated graphics it's still fun.

I bought Age of Wonders 1 and 2 but they aren't true inheritors to the game. Something is missing. Random map generation and the two worlds come to mind, but there was something fundamental about MoM which gave it it's appeal. It really really deserves an Update.

MoM2 deserves to be made.

PriestOfDiscord · December 8, 2002, 03:28

The two different worlds and how they interacted, a true empire-building feel, a limitless research tree, the hordes of units and leaders, all this and more coming togheter in a fantastic form. One of the best games of all time, even after all this time. A true sequel that expanded on all the amazing traits of the original would be pure gaming bliss. Too bad you won't see it for at least a few years.

Sikander · December 8, 2002, 03:31

I'd like to see MoM 2. It's still one of the better games of it's genre even with it's outdated graphics and bugs etc.

Sollos · December 8, 2002, 17:55

MOM2 would be cool. Of course I'd really buy it if were a slow RTS like EU2.

Sherlock01 · December 9, 2002, 08:31

I never played MoM, but I've heard a lot about it being one of the best games ever. A lot like the original System Shock, another oldie great that I never got a chance at. But I really loved both AoW1 and 2. If they make a sequel to MoM, they would definitely have an audience for it.

MariOne · December 9, 2002, 09:54

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Originally posted by PriestOfDiscord
The two different worlds and how they interacted, a true empire-building feel, a limitless research tree, the hordes of units and leaders, all this and more coming togheter in a fantastic form. One of the best games of all time, even after all this time. A true sequel that expanded on all the amazing traits of the original would be pure gaming bliss.

Evidently, I was more focused on the generic similarities, than on the undeniable differences you so well and concisely point out

I wanted to post the link to a recent thread where a poster listed his thoughs and feature wishes for MoM2, but I could not find it again, searching in the entire site....

MariOne · December 12, 2002, 11:05

Found
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=49243

MariOne · January 15, 2003, 10:50

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Originally posted by vmxa1

You can not find any deals for Homm2 Gold or Homm3 complete? I see them all the time. Now with Millenium and Platium out, it should be cheap.

Only now I finally found the Platinum six-pack and got it.
Paid it 40€, don't know if it could be called a "bargain"...

I hope I've not wasted them €.

Any advice on how to proceed?
Begin from the start, or...?

vmxa1 · January 15, 2003, 13:49

I forget what is in the Plat set, does it have Homm1,2,3,4? If so I would suggest Homm3 first. I still love Hom2, but some will find the graphics too old. If you enjoy III, then you can go back to II and save IV for last. Homm4 departs from the rest by using the hero in the combat directly.
I prefer the campaigns, so I start with them.
Homm3 had three pieces, RoE the original game, AB th first add on and then SoD.
Restoration Of Erathia
Armaggedeons Blade
Shadow Of Death.
Homm2 had The Succession Wars and The Price Of Loyalty
IMO Homm1 is no longer worth playing (do not shoot).
IV has come out with The Gathering Storm addon and will soon be dropping the second one.
Many great web sites for Heroes exist.

MariOne · January 16, 2003, 08:12

Thanks for the advise!

Platinum includes all the old HoMMs, that is, not IV.
Just
HoMM
HoMM II + addon
HoMM III + 2 addons

Had not been for you I'd have gone in the order, thinking that experience with the older games could have made sense before getting to the newer...
Now instead I guess I'll begin with the most up-to-date as you suggest, and bactrack for historical purposes and completeness sake.

I thought to have read that some player rated HoMM II much above the #III...
You know, I STILL enjoy playing MoM, so old graphics is absolutely NOT and issue for me

vmxa1 · January 16, 2003, 13:52

I have many old games and play them as Mom, Moo, Alien Legacy, Ascendancy and so on.
I am not sure where II rates vs III for most, but I would submit that III is a big improvement.
I played the heck out of II and downloaded several hundred maps for it, I still play it at least once a month. I love it and all that, but I suspect those that prefer it are letting nostalgia get in the way. I understand that, I have that feeling when I fire it up and see those old golems and hear the sounds.

MariOne · January 17, 2003, 05:18

ALIEN LEGACY!

I STILL have it installed on my DOS partition along with MoM & Machiavelli!

I got to the point where the aliens hurled themselves into the sun, and never bactracked to solve the adventure (as I had to begin a serious working life around at the time...).

I tried to give it another go recently, but the exploration part is too stupid for current days, and even at speed 1 the game suffers a bit from the PC being too fast, especially in the colony interaction...
A wonderful mix of a resource-managing RTS with a space-adventure game, in my memories.

Mark, I didn't start this thread, but seeing as how I'm using it to talk about every game except MoO, it could be worth to move it to Other Games, thanks

vmxa1 · January 17, 2003, 13:32

It plays fine in XP for me. I finished it twice, but now I usually stop once I start the research lab over the gas giant. It is a major paint to keep it supplied. It is more a nostalgic run for me from time to time.

Stub · January 17, 2003, 14:39

If your looking for MOM2 go find yourself a copy of Lords Of Magic at your local BestBuy store.

I always Loved MOM, just as much if not more so then MOO1/2. I can't tell you how many times in highschool we traded the install disc amongst my friends.

LOM is basically an unofficial MOM2. Everything is there, multiple Magic schools, a great many different spells, city building, troop building, summoned creatures. Just updated with a new sort of 3D graphics. Only thing, its not really great, and since it was made a few years back, it is getting outdated. But if you are in a real Fix for some MOM action, (boy does that sound wrong) go check out LOM.