Have England and Canada produced a single good band between them since the Beatles? - Page 4

Asher · December 7, 2002, 02:51

I thought we were talking about current bands?

Currently, those three regions I listed produce the good rock music generally.

Drake Tungsten · December 7, 2002, 02:54

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Currently, those three regions I listed produce the good rock music generally.

You've got to be kidding. Seattle has been dead as a music scene since the early nineties and the South doesn't produce anything either. California is the only place you mentioned with any sort of rock scene and its dominated mostly by rap-rock acts and pop punk. Ughhh.

Asher · December 7, 2002, 02:56

Well almost all of the bands I still buy new albums from come from the Southern US, for one, so I would disagree with you...

The rest come from California.

Seattle isn't as good as it used to be, so perhaps that could be removed.

California + Southern US it is.

Nebraska, of course, has produced no bands of note.

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 02:57

I would agree that rock here is heading down the drain. 3 Doors Down, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Linkin Park, and Lifehouse all released hugely disappointing followup albums. The last rock album I bought and really loved was Fuel's Something Like Human. And it was ages ago. I'm still waiting for another good one. However, I have never bought a Canadian album. I have downloaded one Alanis Morisette song an one Nickelback song. As compared to 50 CDs and 2000 downloaded songs from artists from non-Canadian countries.

Drake Tungsten · December 7, 2002, 02:58

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Nebraska, of course, has produced no bands of note.

311 got its start in Nebraska. Matthew Sweet also achieved a few hits during the Nineties. There are also some up and coming bands, like the Faint, which are gaining notice nationwide.

Zero · December 7, 2002, 02:59

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
New York isn't at its best right now, but rock music is hurting all over the US. New York has an illustrious past, however, being the birthplace of punk and all. I couldn't even begin to list all the great bands that have come out of New York.

NY is the one of the only place where you'll find people listening to all kinds of music... Reggae, Pop, Rock, Techno, R&B, Classical, Jazz,

I dun care if we don create as much artist as you guys claim, all i know is all kinds of music thrives here.

Asher · December 7, 2002, 02:59

You should look into some Canadian music.

IIRC, orange is really into a couple Canadian bands like Our Lady Peace these days.

The problem, Jaguar, isn't that those countries aren't producing good music, it's that you just haven't been exposed to it.

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:00

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Nebraska, of course, has produced no bands of note.

311 got its start in Nebraska.

So is 311 a California band or a Nebraska band? You've listed it as both.

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Matthew Sweet also achieved a few hits during the Nineties.

Err...who?

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There are also some up and coming bands, like the Faint, which are gaining notice nationwide.

We'll see. Never heard of them...

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:02

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NY is the one of the only place where you'll find people listening to all kinds of music... Reggae, Pop, Rock, Techno, R&B, Classical, Jazz,

Yes, no other city in the world has people listening to those types of music.

Even Calgary, for instance, has a Classical music station, 2 Hip-hop/R&B stations, A pop top40 station, a rock station, and a jazz station, not to mention a bunch of weird inbetween stations...

You'll find people have diverse music tastes everywhere. New York ain't special like that...

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:03

I knew all the bands that you mentioned... what others are you thinking of?

Our lady peace and the tragically hip are good enough that I woud download some of their songs if I didn't already have higher priority things to download or if I got rid of this 56k modem.

Drake Tungsten · December 7, 2002, 03:04

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So is 311 a California band or a Nebraska band? You've listed it as both.

They're both. They grew up and formed in Omaha. They performed there and released all their indie records there, before getting a major record deal. They only moved out to Californina after they signed with a major label. So, while they have been in California for a while now, they are still a product of Nebraska.

And I guarantee you've heard a Matthew Sweet song before, even if you don't recognize the name. He's a great pop-rock songwriter.

BTW, what bands are there from Alberta?

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:05

It doesn't matter if you know the bands, but what songs of theirs do you know?

Some of them have gained a lot of momentum in the US college scene, but most people haven't heard of them.

OLP sells out tiny halls or clubs in the US, and stadiums in Canada.

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:08

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Originally posted by Asher

Yes, no other city in the world has people listening to those types of music.

Even Calgary, for instance, has a Classical music station, 2 Hip-hop/R&B stations, A pop top40 station, a rock station, and a jazz station, not to mention a bunch of weird inbetween stations...

Oh wow, impressive.

DC: 3 mix rock stations, 1 altrock station, 2 classic rock, 2 general rock, 1 top40, 2 jazz, 3 hip hop, 1 classical, 2 country, and a bunch of other random ones. In NY every single FM frequency has a radio station.

Zero · December 7, 2002, 03:08

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You'll find people have diverse music tastes everywhere. New York ain't special like that...

of course you do. But not in abundance. The city is so filled with so much variety that i think its healthy. Its a shame that you thought putting a shame emoticon as response to my post was funny.

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:08

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BTW, what bands are there from Alberta?

Nickelback
Big Sugar (I don't think you'll know them, they're a very Canadian band and probably wouldn't be big in the US -- but they've got at least one song all about having "all hell for a basement" in Alberta

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Rhymes with Orange (Brand new band from black diamond, their first album is a huge hit here and they're releasing their Album under Sony Music in the US with a huge marketing push in 2003 sometime)
Jann Arden (I don't think she counts?)
Paul Brandt (Country)
Adam Greggory (Country)

Dis · December 7, 2002, 03:09

Led Zeppelin

'nuff said

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:09

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Oh wow, impressive.

Erm...that was my point.
Even a city like Calgary which is by far Rock and Country, has multiple stations for each genre.

Drake Tungsten · December 7, 2002, 03:09

Nickelback is the only one I've heard of. And Sloan kicks their ass.

Zero · December 7, 2002, 03:10

Back on topic

not a band but another U.K artist

Aphex Twin...

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:10

You should download Rhymes with Orange's "brand new day".

It wouldn't hurt would it?

Zero · December 7, 2002, 03:12

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Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
Oh wow, impressive.

DC: 3 mix rock stations, 1 altrock station, 2 classic rock, 2 general rock, 1 top40, 2 jazz, 3 hip hop, 1 classical, 2 country, and a bunch of other random ones. In NY every single FM frequency has a radio station.

well JW... almost...

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:15

In response to Asher's post a while ago, I like a lot of songs from Clumsy and Spiritual Machines, not so much OLPs other albums. They were good, then went bad, then became good again, then released an ok album. My favorite tragically hip song is "ahead by a century."

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:16

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well JW... almost...

shh! he doesn't know that

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:17

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Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
In response to Asher's post a while ago, I like a lot of songs from Clumsy and Spiritual Machines, not so much OLPs other albums. They were good, then went bad, then became good again, then released an ok album. My favorite tragically hip song is "ahead by a century."

Gravity (the most recent) is a damn good album.
It was produced by Bob Rock (who happens to be Canadian, by the way, and a very famous Rock producer) and is harder than their previous albums.

Lots of great songs on it.

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:20

Gravity doesn't sound as good as the aforementioned albums. My friend has it.

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:21

Pfft, it's probably my favorite out of their albums. It's the most consistent, also.

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:24

True.

Have you vowed to get me to download a canadian son before I go to sleep or something?

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:25

I think we should also look at indirect contributions to the music, like Bob Rock's work for instance.

He was the producer for:
The Cult - self titled
The Cult - Sonic Temple
The Cult - Beyond Good and Evil
Metallica - "the Black Album"
Metallica - Load
Metallica - ReLoad
Metallica - Garage Inc
Metallica - S & M
Motley Crue - Selftitled
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood

etc

Asher · December 7, 2002, 03:27

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True.

Have you vowed to get me to download a canadian son before I go to sleep or something?

Adopt and practice abstinence like a good Christian!

Jaguar · December 7, 2002, 03:31

A canadian son,

I hate it when poly leaves ot letters. (the "ot" was unintentinal. So was the misspelling of "unintentional.) I don't know why poly does it, but it doesn't register a lot of the letters I type. I don't have the problem typing elsewhere.