Apolyton Hall of Fame: December 2002

[DarkCloud]

Hello and welcome to this year’s Historic 3rd December induction into the Apolyton Hall of Fame.
Please vote for whoever you think contributes the most to the ‘flavor’ of Apolyton. Who makes Apolyton what it is. Please vote for your favorite posters; the ones who contribute mods/scenarios/units as well as excellent posts, decorum and volunteer spirit on the boards.
Remember, your vote counts!
Please vote today and elect some of your brethern to join the historic December class; consisting of such hallowed names as Adam Smith, DanQ, MarkG, Giant Squid, St Leo, Ming, Snapcase, and more

3rd Post down from here contains VOTING RESULTS!


The Apolyton Hall of Fame

December 2002

(3 Members to be inducted)
(Only 13 will be elected this year)

Hall of Fame Members

Apolyton Hall of Fame Members -39

December 2001 Adam Smith
December 2000 Alexander's Horse [The Apolyton Troll]
March 2001 Boshko (AKA Zhu Yuanzhang Dave Boshko, Boshko)
December 2001 chegitz guevara
August 2002 Chris 62
December 2000 DanQ
March 2002 Ecthelion
March 2001 *End is Forever* (AKA Iain Lindley)
June 2001 EVC (AKA EvC, Evan VonChristof) [The Apolyton Daffy Duck] [Perma-Banned]
December 2000 Giant Squid (AKA Celestion the God, Alexander the Great) [The Apolyton DL]
June 2002 GP
January 2001 Imran Siddiqui [ACS News Coordinator]
March 2002 Jay Bee
March 2001 Lancer
December 2000 Mao
December 2000 MarkG
December 2000 MichaeltheGreat [Another OT Moderator]
December 2000 MikeH
December 2000 Ming [The OT Moderator]
June 2001 Monk
June 2002 paiktis22
December 2000 Provost Harrison (AKA AI) [The Apolyton Scientist]
March 2002 rah [Yet another OT moderator]
December 2001 Ramo
December 2000 Roland
March 2001 Ron Jeremy (AKA: Bugs ****ing Bunny, Lazarus and the Gimp, Trappist)
August 2002 Sirotnikov
December 2001 Snapcase
June 2001 SnowFire
June 2001 Starchild
June 2001 Stefu
January 2001 Stewart Spink [Perma-Banned]
December 2000 St Leo
June 2001 SuperSneak
December 2001 Wraith
March 2002 Velociryx
March 2002 yin26
December 2000 Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey [Perma-Banned]
June 2002 Xin Yu

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No Dates; Alphabetically:
Adam Smith
Alexander's Horse
Boshko
chegitz guevara
Chris 62
DanQ
Ecthelion
*End is Forever*
EVC
Giant Squid
GP
Imran Siddiqui
Jay Bee
Lancer
Mao
MarkG
Michael the Great
MikeH
Ming
Monk
paiktis22
Provost Harrison
rah
Ramo
Roland
Ron Jeremy
sirotnikov
Snapcase
SnowFire
Starchild
Stefu
Stewart Spink
St Leo
SuperSneak
Velociryx
Wraith
Xin Yu
yin26
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey

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Chronologically
MarkG Automatic Inductee
DanQ Automatic Inductee
Ming December 2000
MikeH December 2000
MichaeltheGreat December 2000
Mao December 2000
Alexander's Horse December 2000
Giant Squid December 2000
Provost Harrison December 2000
Roland December 2000
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey December 2000
St. Leo December 2000
Imran Siddiqui January 2001
Stewart Spink January 2001
Lancer March 2001
Ron Jeremy March 2001
*End is Forever*March 2001
Boshko March 2001
EVC June 2001
Monk June 2001
Snowfire June 2001
Starchild June 2001
SuperSneak June 2001
Stefu June 2001
Adam Smith December 2001
chegitz guevara December 2001
Ramo December 2001
Snapcase December 2001
Wraith December 2001
rah March 2002
yin26 March 2002
Ecthelion March 2002
Jay Bee March 2002
Velociryx March 2002
Xin Yu June 2002
GP June 2002
paiktis22 June 2002
Chris 62 August 2002
Sirotnikov August 2002

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Sorted by Year Registered

1998 (21)
Ming
MarkG
Stewart Spink
Imran Siddiqui
Alexander’s Horse
*End is Forever*
DanQ
Jay Bee
St. Leo
yin26
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
Snowfire
Starchild
rah
GP
Xin Yu
MichaeltheGreat (?)
Giant Squid
Boshko
Stefu (?)
Adam Smith (?)

1999 (12)
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
Ramo
Mao
Velociryx
MikeH
EVC
Snapcase
Roland
Wraith (?)
SuperSneak (?)
Lancer
Ron Jeremy (?)

2000 (5)
Provost Harrison
Ecthelion
chegitz guevara (?)
Sirotnikov (?)
paiktis 22 (?)

2001 (1)
Chris 62

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Information About the Hall of Famer’s
Information Courtesy: The Apolyton 100

MarkG - Founder of the site and maintainer. He has created numerous scripts for the site; uploaded data and dealt with troubles, all the while still finding the time to post in the Civ II sections and play Civ. A true legend.
DanQ - Founder of the site and maintainer. He has created numerous scripts for the site; uploaded data and dealt with troubles, all the while still finding the time to post in the Civ II sections and play Civ. A true legend.
Ming - OT moderator. Benevolent and kind. Civ II Mper and Civ II poster. He keeps order on the site and posts a lot in the OT
MikeH - AC-Player; now best known for his Off-topic postings. He now resides at CounterGlow.
MichaeltheGreat - Off topic moderator. Civ II player.
Mao - OT poster, he also posted in the Civ II sections until Aug 2000 when he faded from the forums
EVC - Humorous. Slightly offensive. Well-known for micronationalism; crazed antics. OT regular until his permabanning
Giant Squid - Old Mod-Maker for Civ II and poster on the forums since almost their inception. Best known for Apolyton Micronationalism.
Provost Harrison - AC poster, OT poster, ubiquitious poster. Provost is best known for his off-topic exploits.
Roland - Apolyton economicist and financial wizard
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey - Co-Founded of The Alpha Centauri Nexus (more popular than ACN's SMAC section at the game's peak).
St. Leo - Currently hangs out and promotes the Scenario League. He used to be one of the more important Civ II posters.
Imran Siddiqui- ACS News Editor, large poster back in the old days. Civ II poster. Civ III-ideas poster. Now he generally hangs out in the Off-Topic. He enjoyed the old Story-Threads and contributed to many of them.
Stewart Spink - Humor. Spam. OT. Discussions. He was an Apolyton staff member at one time. He maintained the Civ II Top Ten Scoring list and some other things. He also had his own Civ II site.
Lancer - Well known for his charitable Karen Mills threads about the family in the Phillipines and the Apolyton House. He is also well known for his many invaluable Civ II contribuitions
Ron Jeremy- Humorous/Cynical Apolytoner. An old Civ II-er, he now hangs out in the OT.
*End is Forever* - Very interested in music. OT-er.
Boshko- OT-er. Big in political threads
Monk - OT-er. INFO NEEDED
Snowfire - Great contribuiter to The List for Civ III… One of the threadmasters for the Civ III list.
Stefu - STEFU! Finnish OT-er! Very humorous.
Adam Smith - Financial wizard. Economicist. Used to be big in the Civ II sections; he now solicits financial advice in the OT.
chegitz guevara - Communist… You guessed it… Theben’s brother. Currently lives in Florida. Well known for his remarkably Left-wing viewpoints.
Ramo - Another Libertarian/Anarchist. Yet Another Texan named Omar. Off-Topic debator.
Snapcase - Hacker, OT-er, and in charge of the Apolyton News.
Wraith - Social Libertarian. OT-er. MORE INFORMATION NEEDED.
rah - Major Civ II Mper, brother of Ming and current moderator of the OT. He also posts in the Civ II general section.
yin26- - South Korean master of THE LIST for Civ III! Yin26 used to be moderator of the Civ III section until he decided that he didn’t like Civ III… And for all newbies- you can relate his vitriolic statements about Alpha Centauri to Coracle’s whining about Civ III! However, returning to the more important information: yin 26’s listmastering tasks are not to be underestimated- he sorted thorough THOUSANDS of posts to find the best to submit to Firaxis in that huge 200 to 400-or-so page sacred document that is THE LIST.
Ecthelion- - Deutsche-Spam. Prominent Oter known for his humor. Formerly known as Andz83 and ChaosWarrior, Ecthelion originally posted in the Civilization II section. History happens to be one of his favorite topics.
Jay Bee- - Current moderator of the Spanish Civilization II section of the Forums. He is also the genial head of the Spanish Civilization II Site; an excellent site with many varied Spanish-setting scenarios. Jay Bee has been with Apolyton almost since its inception, being one of the first 4 people to register on the forums; right behind the venerable MarkG, DanQ and DarthVeda.
Velociryx - Current head of the Candle’bre project, a project centered around creating a free massively multiplayer game a la Trade Empires. Vel is also the published author of a recently (July 2002) released Mystery. (PLEASE CORRECT IF I AM WRONG ABOUT GENRE/GAME); he also published a strategy game for Alpha Centauri. Former AC-Fiction author and frequent AC-contributor. Once voted Apolytoner of the Season for the entire site. More information can be found in the Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
Xin Yu - Civ II strategy master and MPer. More information can be found in his Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
GP- Best known for his proponency of the “Branching Thread” format; GP is a former Navy Crewman who happens to be a frequent debater and frequenter of the Apolyton Off-Topic; he has also, in the past, visited the Civ II section, giving hints and advice. Currently (as of Nov 2002) he is under one of his asked for ‘bans-from-Apolyton’ so that he is not tempted to post
paiktis22- PLEASE CONTRIBUTE INFORMATION; Apolyton OT-er and former Civ III-ideas and Civ II regular.
Chris62 - He frequents the Spanish Civilization II, Scenario League, OT, General, Multiplayer website forums.
Sirotnikov Humorous. Defends Israel in the OT (since he lives in Israel)

[DarkCloud]

Rules for voting

Everyone can vote for 3 posters

Registered In/Before 1999- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2000- 3 points per vote
Registered In 2001- 2 point per vote
Registered In 2002- 1 points per vote

You may not vote for yourself.
All ‘frivolous’ votes are thrown out.
You may only vote once in the hall of fame (for 3 people) IF you try to vote more than once ALL of your votes will be made void.

As per suggestion by MOBIUS, the last vote's are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Solver, all previous votes are carried onto the next votes.

FAQ:

“Trust me, an on-topicer will never win “

What about Xin Yu? What about Velociryx?
And remember, many of these ‘mostly-OT posters’ used to be huge on-topic posters back around 1998-99!

“Where is the Hall of Fame usually posted?”

From December 2000 to August 2002, the Hall of Fame had only been posted in the Off Topic forums; with occasional forays into the Apolyton/Community section. However, nowadays you can find the Apolyton Hall of Fame in the Civ III-General, CTP I-MP, CTP II-General, AC-General and one of the Alt.Civ sections (rotatable ) in addition to the Off Topic; with links INTO the voting realm in the Apolyton-Community and Civ II-General sections.

[DarkCloud]

Current Standings (The Previous Votes’ add-ins are in brackets)
These are all the people who made the last List, but were not elected.

1 Frogger [Krazy Horse]- ------- (37) 17----54
2 Slowwhand- ------------(37) 13----50
3 Asher- ------(28) 20---48
4 DinoDoc- (29) 13-- 42

orange- (14) 22---37

Locutus- (23) 10----33

Reismark- (23) 8---31
Fez/Giancarlo- (26) 5---31

Paul- (24) 6---30
korn469- --------- (23) 7---- 30

MLeonard- -----(21) 8----29

DanS- (20) 8----28

Sprayber - --------- (18) 8---26

Boris Godunov – (11) 14----25

Zykla- (12) 4---24
DarkCloud- (18) 6----24

Scouse Gits- (15) 8----23
JohnT- -(15) 8---23

Urban Ranger- (19)
Solver- (15) 4---19

Eli- (15) 3----18

ixnay- (4) 11---15

CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- (10) 4----14
n.c.- (14)
Sten Sture- (14)

Shadowstrike (10) 3----13
Azazel- (9) 4----13

fiera- (12)
Tau Ceti- (5) 7--12
Ogie Oglethorpe- (3) 9---12

Sagacious Dolphin- (7) 4---11
Shi Huangdi- (3) 8----11
David Floyd- (11)
Sikander- (4) 7----11

devilmunchkin- (10)
jon miller- (8) 2----10
Lincoln- (10)
werefox- (6) 4----10

War4Ever- (6) 3----9
Immortal Wombat- (9)
Tiamat-( 9)
East Street Trader- (6) 3---9
Red_jon- (9)
Zeus_of_Olimpos- (5) 4----9
Alinestera Covelia 9
EyesOfNight- (2) 7----9

Marquis de Sodaq- (4) 4---8
Mr Fun- (8)
Natan- (8)
Porphyrogenitus- (8)
Albert Speer (8)
Empress- (5) 3----8
Catt- 8

DeepO-(5) 2----7
Coracle- (5) 2----7
Arrian (3) 4---

Aeson- (6)
Caesar the Great-(6)
axi- (6)
Sergeant Sheets- (2) 4----6
Jack the Bodiless-(6)
Rand Al'Tor- (6)
Theseus- (3) 3---6

BlackWidow24- (5)
Clear Skies- (5)
boann- (5)
the capo- (5)
El Awrence- (5)
notyoueither- 5
alexman (1) 4---5

Dominikos-4
GePap- 4
Dr Strangelove- (4)
Hexagonian- 4
Dale- 4
Kassiopeia- 4
WesW- 4

MBloomIII- (3)
Sir Ralph- (3)
Six Thousand Year Old Man- (3)
BeBro- (3)
Waku- (3)
Belinda9- (3)
Harlan- 3
Dissident- (3)
Vi Vicdi- (3)
Monkspider- (3)
Gramphos- (3)
Cold Wizard- (3)
Kaak- (3)
phoenixcager- (3)
FlamefFlash 3
dojoboy 3
Bradman 3

FemmeAdonis- (2)
Guynemer- (2)
markusf- (2)
mindseye- (2)
DeathByTheSword 2
Blake- 2
Sir David- (2)
Frustrated Poet- 2
Gibsie- (2)
LordStone1- (2)
MOBIUS- (2)
Apocalypse- (2)
Rogan Josh- (2)
Aeson- 2
Giovanni Wine-(2)
faded glory- (2)
mindseye- (2)
Rasbelin- 2
Trip- 2
Wigalf- (2)
Andreas- (2)
DarkStar- (2)
warpstorm- 2

vulture- (1)
Seneca- (1)
connorkimbro- (1)
UltraSonix- (1)
The Brain- (1)
Jimmytrick- (1)
Master Marcus- (1)
DylanBaker- (1)
Skanky Burns- (1)
Hydey- (1)
Taurus- (1)
Ted Stryker [Derek, Provost D]- (1)
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I vote for korn469-3 Empress- 3 Shadowstrike-3

Who voted for Whom

alva voted for: DeepO (2), Frustrated Poet (2), Notyoueither (2)
Apocalypse voted for: Asher (4), ixnay (4), Solver (4)
Asher voted for: KrazyHorse (4), DinoDoc (4), Zylka (4)
asleepatthewheel voted for: notyoueither (1), warpstorm (1), arrian (1)
Azazel voted for: Locutus (3), Eli (3), Frogger (3)
boann voted for: Slowwhand (3), eyes of night (3), orange (3)
Boris Godunov voted for: ixnay (2), Asher (2), orange (2)
Changmai Beagle voted for: Hexagonian (4), WesW (4), Dale (4)
DarkCloud voted for: korn 469 (3), Empress (3), Shadowstrike (3)
David Floyd voted for: orange (4), Mleonard (4), Slowwhand (4)
De Gaulle voted for: Alexman (1), Theseus (1), Catt (1)
devilmunchkin voted for: Slowwhand (2), DarkCloud (2)
Dominae voted for: alexman (1), Arrian (1), notyoueither (1)
Gatekeeper voted for: FlameFlash (3), dojoboy (3), Bradman (3)
GP voted for: Sergeant Sheets (4), Dominikos (4), Frogger (4)
Guynemer voted for: KrazyHorse (4), DinoDoc (4), JohnT (4)
Immortal Wombat voted for: Paul (3), Locutus (3), Harlan (3)
Imran Siddiqui voted for: DanS (4), Asher (4), Slowwhand (4)
ixnay voted for Asher (4), Zylka (4), Boris Godunov (4)
JohnT voted for: DanS (4), DarkCloud (4), Orange (4)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei) (4), Zykla (4)
Konquest02 voted for: Alexman (1), Theseus (1), Arrian (1)
Lazarus and the Gimp voted for: Alnistera Covelia (4), Eyes of Night (4), Sagacious Dolphin (4)
MariOne voted for: Sikander (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Tau Ceti (4)
Ming voted for: werefox (4), Mleonard (4), Reismark (4)
monkspider voted for: Boris Godunov (2), Orange (2), Jon Miller (2)
Mr. President voted for: Kassiopea (2), DeathByTheSword (2), Alnistera Covelia (2)
Ned voted for: Shi Huangdi (4), GePap (4), Azazel (4)
notyoueither voted for: Frogger (2), korn469 (2), Aeson (2)
Paul voted for: Locutus (4), Scouse Gits (4), Tau Ceti (4)
Plan Austral voted for: Ixnay (2), Boris Godunov (2), Fez (2)
redbull voted for: DinoDoc (1), Ixnay (1), Asher (1)
red_jon voted for: Boris Godunov (3), Fez (3), Orange (3)
Seneca voted for: Boris Godunov (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), East Street Trader (3)
Skanky Burns voted for: korn469 (2), Asher (2), ixnay (2)
Slowwhand voted for: Sprayber (4), Orange (4), Reismark (4)
Stefu voted for: DinoDoc (4), JohnT (4), Sprayber (4)
Taz voted for: Sikander (3), Ogie Oglethorpe (3), Tau Ceti (3)
Theseus voted for: Catt (1), Arrian (1), alexman (1)
TKG voted for: Blake (2), Ogie Oglethorpe (2), ixnay (2)
Tuomerehu voted for: Rasbelin (2), Kassiopeia (2), Trip (2)
WarpStorm voted for: notyoueither (2), Coracle (2), Catt (2)
wilbill voted for: warpstorm (1), theseus (1), Catt (1)
Vlad Antlerkov voted for: Black Dragon/Shi Huangdi (4), Scouse Gits (4), Marquis de Sodaq (4)
Zopperoni voted for: Paul (3), War4Ever (3), Asher (3)

[Immortal Wombat]

Paul, Locutus and Harlan

[child of Thor]

I don't think this is fair - only three votes?? This is CTP2, you can Mod this game loads and i'd vote for half a dozen people with out even having to think about it.

[VJ]

I don't post this into OT because I don't want everybody there to stare at my selections.
My votes (2 points/vote) are going to:

Rasbelin
Kassiopeia
Trip

Yes, I AM shamelessly promoting fellow Finnish citizens when it comes to the first 2.

[DarkCloud]

I don't think this is fair - only three votes?? This is CTP2, you can Mod this game loads and i'd vote for half a dozen people with out even having to think about it

Well... I could vote for about 20 people... I have that many on my list- but I have the discipline to rotate my votes every now and then... Why don't you do that- you can always vote for someone else next time!

Since you can vote for some people- why not vote today! and get your CTPers elected

[HuangShang]

whats this for. i dont know any of these people

[H Tower]

Originally posted by HuangShang
whats this for. i dont know any of these people

its tradition, you cast your worthless vote for someone in your particular community and then cry when they don't get selected.

I cast my worthless vote for
IW, DinoDoc and Asher.*

*note to DC, I voted already, don't add in my votes a second time

[DarkCloud]

Whew. Updated

What's this for?

Please vote for whoever you think contributes the most to the ‘flavor’ of Apolyton. Who makes Apolyton what it is. Please vote for your favorite posters; the ones who contribute mods/scenarios/units as well as excellent posts, decorum and volunteer spirit on the boards.

Or do you need elaboration?
Please vote!

[H Tower]

my vote's not in there from the OT thread

[DarkCloud]

The Election is Complete!

Well, congratulations our three new inductees rounding out the class of 2002!

1 Slowwhand- ------------(37) 22----59
2 Frogger [Krazy Horse]- ------- (37) 17----54
3 Asher- ------(28) 24---52

Three prominent Oters come to light at first glance, but then you might notice Slowwhand’s and Krazy Horse [Frogger’s] other activities; Frogger for one posted a lot in the Civ sections, as did Slowwhand. Now of course, Asher is the straight Oter- but there’s a bad apple in every bunch and Asher deserves his election due to his loyalty to Apolyton, his humorous OT posts, and his constant presence in the OT community; helping keep Apolyton vibrant and exciting.

However, it seems as though next election (January 2003) will bring about a new wave of posters from the Civ III section to the forefront of the Hall of Fame, thus commemorating the new game’s place in the annals of Apolyton History; since in 2003 all the 2002 posters will be gifted with another vote… making each individual vote count for two… all other groups however, will remain at the same number of votes.

Also coming in 2003… More major renovations and changes for the Hall of Fame based on YOUR suggestions!

Thanks for participating in 2002 and Merry Christmas!

-DC

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Results Follow:


1 Slowwhand- ------------(37) 22----59
2 Frogger [Krazy Horse]- ------- (37) 17----54
3 Asher- ------(28) 24---52

orange- (14) 33---47

Reismark- (23) 22---45

DinoDoc- (29) 15-- 44

Locutus- (23) 14----37

DanS- (20) 16----36

Paul- (24) 10---34
DarkCloud- (18) 16----34

korn469- --------- (23) 10---- 33
Fez/Giancarlo- (26) 7---33

Boris Godunov – (11) 21----32

Sprayber - --------- (18) 12---30

MLeonard- -----(21) 8----29

Zykla- (12) 4---24

Scouse Gits- (15) 8----23
JohnT- -(15) 8---23

Eli- (15) 5----20

Urban Ranger- (19)
Solver- (15) 4---19

Sten Sture- (14) 4----18

Ogie Oglethorpe- (3) 14---17

fiera- (12) 4----16
Azazel (Dalgetti)- (9) 7----16

Tau Ceti- (5) 10--15
ixnay- (4) 11---15
Theseus- (3) 12--15

CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- (10) 4----14
n.c.- (14)
Catt- 14

Shadowstrike (10) 3----13
War4Ever- (6) 7---13
Alinestra Covelia 13

alexman (1) 11---12
Tiamat-( 9) 3----12

Sagacious Dolphin- (7) 4---11
Shi Huangdi- (3) 8----11
David Floyd- (11)
Sikander- (4) 7----11
Natan- (8) 3---11
Immortal Wombat- (9) 2----11

devilmunchkin- (10)
jon miller- (8) 2----10
Lincoln- (10)
werefox- (6) 4----10
Aeson- (6) 4---10
Arrian (3) 7--- 10

East Street Trader- (6) 3---9
Red_jon- (9)
Zeus_of_Olimpos- (5) 4----9
EyesOfNight- (2) 7----9
Caesar the Great-(6) 3----9
notyoueither- 9

Marquis de Sodaq- (4) 4---8
Mr Fun- (8)
Porphyrogenitus- (8)
Albert Speer (8)
Empress- (5) 3----8

warpstorm- 7
boann- (5) 2----7
DeepO-(5) 2----7
Coracle- (5) 2----7
WesW- 7
Hexagonian- 7

axi- (6)
Sergeant Sheets- (2) 4----6
Jack the Bodiless-(6)
Kassiopeia- 6
Rand Al'Tor- (6)
Skanky Burns- (1) 5----6

BlackWidow24- (5)
Clear Skies- (5)
the capo- (5)
El Awrence- (5)
Sir Ralph- (3) 2----5
MariOne- 5
Trip- 5

Dominikos-4
GePap- 4
Lefty Scaevola- 4
Dr Strangelove- (4)
Dale- 4
Mario- 4
JimmyTrick-4
Vondrack 4

MBloomIII- (3)
Six Thousand Year Old Man- (3)
BeBro- (3)
Waku- (3)
Belinda9- (3)
Harlan- 3
Dissident- (3)
Vi Vicdi- (3)
Monkspider- (3)
Gramphos- (3)
ColdWizard- (3)
Kaak- (3)
phoenixcager- (3)
FlamefFlash 3
dojoboy 3
Bradman 3

FemmeAdonis- (2)
Guynemer- (2)
markusf- (2)
UberKrux- 2
mindseye- (2)
DeathByTheSword 2
Blake- 2
Sir David- (2)
Frustrated Poet- 2
Gibsie- (2)
LordStone1- (2)
MOBIUS- (2)
Apocalypse- (2)
Rogan Josh- (2)
Giovanni Wine-(2)
faded glory- (2)
mindseye- (2)
Rasbelin- 2
Wigalf- (2)
Andreas- (2)
DarkStar- (2)

vulture- (1)
Seneca- (1)
Alva- 1
connorkimbro- (1)
UltraSonix- (1)
The Brain- (1)
Jimmytrick- (1)
Master Marcus- (1)
DylanBaker- (1)
Hydey- (1)
Taurus- (1)
Ted Stryker [Derek, Provost D]- (1)
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I vote for korn469-3 Empress- 3 Shadowstrike-3

Who voted for Whom

Adam Smith voted for: Reismark (4), DanS (4), StenSture (4)
alva voted for: DeepO (2), Frustrated Poet (2), Notyoueither (2)
Apocalypse voted for: Asher (4), ixnay (4), Solver (4)
Asher voted for: KrazyHorse (4), DinoDoc (4), Zylka (4)
asleepatthewheel voted for: notyoueither (1), warpstorm (1), arrian (1)
Azazel voted for: Locutus (3), Eli (3), Frogger (3)
Bamspeedy voted for: Aeson (1), alexman (1), Warpstorm (1)
boann voted for: Slowwhand (3), eyes of night (3), orange (3)
Boris Godunov voted for: ixnay (2), Asher (2), orange (2)
campmajor! voted for Theseus (3), notyoueither (3), Catt (3)
Changmai Beagle voted for: Hexagonian (4), WesW (4), Dale (4)
Chris 62 voted for: slowwhand (2), Sprayber (2), boann (2)
ColdWizard voted for: orange (3), reismark (3), Slowwhand (3)
DarkCloud voted for: korn 469 (3), Empress (3), Shadowstrike (3)
David Floyd voted for: orange (4), Mleonard (4), Slowwhand (4)
De Gaulle voted for: Alexman (1), Theseus (1), Catt (1)
devilmunchkin voted for: Slowwhand (2), DarkCloud (2), sprayber (2)
Dominae voted for: alexman (1), Arrian (1), notyoueither (1)
Eli voted for: Natan (3), Azazel (3)
FlameFlash voted for: Locutus (2), Kassiopea (2), Asher (2)
FrustratedPoet voted for: Alva (1), Skanky Burns (1), Theseus (1)
Gatekeeper voted for: FlameFlash (3), dojoboy (3), Bradman (3)
GePap voted for: Sir Ralph (2), Trip (2), Fez(2)
GP voted for: Sergeant Sheets (4), Dominikos (4), Frogger (4)
Grumbold voted for: Hexagonigan (3), WesW (3), korn469 (3)
Guynemer voted for: KrazyHorse (4), DinoDoc (4), JohnT (4)
gwillybj voted for: MariOne (2), Alinestra Covelia (2), Ogie Oglethorpe (2)
H Tower voted for: DinoDoc (2), Immortal Wombat (2), Asher (2)
Immortal Wombat voted for: Paul (3), Locutus (3), Harlan (3)
Imran Siddiqui voted for: DanS (4), Asher (4), Slowwhand (4)
ixnay voted for Asher (4), Zylka (4), Boris Godunov (4)
Jay Bee voted for: DarkCloud (4), Paul (4), Fiera (4)
jdd2007 voted for: Locutus (2), DarkCloud (2), ixnay (2)
JohnT voted for: DanS (4), DarkCloud (4), Orange (4)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei) (4), Zykla (4)
Kampus majore voted for: Theseus (1), notyoueither (!), Arrian (1)
Konquest02 voted for: Alexman (1), Theseus (1), Arrian (1)
Lazarus and the Gimp voted for: Alnistera Covelia (4), Eyes of Night (4), Sagacious Dolphin (4)
Mad Bomber voted for: alexman (1), Aeson (1), Warpstorm (1)
MariOne voted for: Sikander (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Tau Ceti (4)
Ming voted for: werefox (4), Mleonard (4), Reismark (4)
monkspider voted for: Boris Godunov (2), Orange (2), Jon Miller (2)
Mr. President voted for: Kassiopea (2), DeathByTheSword (2), Alnistera Covelia (2)
Ned voted for: Shi Huangdi (4), GePap (4), Azazel (4)
notyoueither voted for: Frogger (2), korn469 (2), Aeson (2)
Ogie Oglethorpe voted for: Mario (4), JimmyTrick (4), Slowwhand (4)
orange voted for Caesar the Great (3), Reismark (3), Tiamat (3)
panag voted for: Eli (2)
Paul voted for: Locutus (4), Scouse Gits (4), Tau Ceti (4)
Plan Austral voted for: Ixnay (2), Boris Godunov (2), Fez (2)
rah voted for: DarkCloud (4), Reismark (4), War4Ever (4)
redbull voted for: DinoDoc (1), Ixnay (1), Asher (1)
red_jon voted for: Boris Godunov (3), Fez (3), Orange (3)
Sagacious Dolphin voted for: orange (4), DanS (4), Skanky Burns (4)
self biased voted for: Boris Godunov (4), Orange (4), Lefty Scaevola (4)
Seneca voted for: Boris Godunov (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), East Street Trader (3)
Skanky Burns voted for: korn469 (2), Asher (2), ixnay (2)
Sikander voted for: Ogie Oglethorpe (3), MariOne (3), Tau Ceti (3)
Sir Ralph voted for: Theseus (2), arrian (2), alexman (@)
Slowwhand voted for: Sprayber (4), Orange (4), Reismark (4)
Stefu voted for: DinoDoc (4), JohnT (4), Sprayber (4)
Stuie voted for: Theseus (2), Catt (2), UberKrux (2)
Taz voted for: Sikander (3), Ogie Oglethorpe (3), Tau Ceti (3)
The Pioneer voted for: Vondrack (!), Trip (1), Catt (1)
Theseus voted for: Catt (1), Arrian (1), alexman (1)
Tiberius voted for: Alexman (3), Warpstorm (3), Vondrack (3)
TKG voted for: Blake (2), Ogie Oglethorpe (2), Alnisteria Covelia (2)
Trajanus voted for: Boris Godunov (3)
Tuomerehu voted for: Rasbelin (2), Kassiopeia (2), Trip (2)
WarpStorm voted for: notyoueither (2), Coracle (2), Catt (2)
wilbill voted for: warpstorm (1), theseus (1), Catt (1)
Vlad Antlerkov voted for: Black Dragon/Shi Huangdi (4), Scouse Gits (4), Marquis de Sodaq (4)
Zopperoni voted for: Paul (3), War4Ever (3), Asher (3)

[Boney]

locutus, scouse gits, hexagonian

[Locutus]

Bah, the entire election took only 3 days, that's way too short for most on-topic forums! You should give us at least a week, the pace here is much slower than on OT. Due to personal circumstances I myself wasn't even here during the last 3 days (except for 5 minutes a day to do some forum moderation on request). If I had been, I would have helped with promoting and explaining what this was about (you posted 3 long posts but didn't bother to explain properly what the HoF is about - most people here and in other on-topic forums have never heard of it before (or of most of the people in it)...)

[Immortal Wombat]

blah

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
since in 2003 all the 2002 posters will be gifted with another vote… making each individual vote count for two… all other groups however, will remain at the same number of votes.

Eh? You mean that 2002 registered posters' votes are worth as much as 2001 registered posters'?

[H Tower]

that's what he means. so someone who registers tommorow gets the same vote as me.

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Locutus
Bah, the entire election took only 3 days, that's way too short for most on-topic forums! You should give us at least a week, the pace here is much slower than on OT. Due to personal circumstances I myself wasn't even here during the last 3 days (except for 5 minutes a day to do some forum moderation on request). If I had been, I would have helped with promoting and explaining what this was about (you posted 3 long posts but didn't bother to explain properly what the HoF is about - most people here and in other on-topic forums have never heard of it before (or of most of the people in it)...)

I second this the last week was for me extremly busy, too. I wasn't able to visit Apolyton in the last two or three days, too. So the poll should at least open for one week and it would be better to have it in the holidays and not before.

By the way poll about the top game series last for more then one month. It ends with this year so if you are of the ones who haven't voted yet: Vote here for CTP1/2.

-Martin

[DarkCloud]

Bah, the entire election took only 3 days, that's way too short for most on-topic forums!

It was 4 days.

(you posted 3 long posts but didn't bother to explain properly what the HoF is about - most people here and in other on-topic forums have never heard of it before (or of most of the people in it)...)

What do you want me to say- I introduced it twice ONCE in the 1st post and ONCE in the FAQ.

Sagacious Dolphin

Eh? You mean that 2002 registered posters' votes are worth as much as 2001 registered posters'?

Yes. It's either that or keep the 2002 at 1 vote and 2003 have 1 vote ... or give 1999 5 votes... I'd rather not give them 5... or- give 1999 4 votes- 2000 3 votes 2001 3 votes and 2002 2 votes and 2003 1 vote.

I'm toying with several scenarios...

-

So the poll should at least open for one week and it would be better to have it in the holidays and not before.

A lot of people go away for the holidays. That's why I did it before.
Also, this forum was amazingly active- the entire 1st page was filled with same day posts- thus, I saw no reason why not to have the election- and this was one of the longest elections ever- 4 days instead of the usual 3.

LOCUTUS-

If I had been, I would have helped with promoting and explaining what this was about

I was wondering where you were...

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
It was 4 days.

That's too less if you are doing it before the holydays. At least double the period so that we have 4 days before the holidays and 4 days in the holidays to vote. At least you have to state in the first post or in the FAQ when the election ends.

Originally posted by DarkCloud
A lot of people go away for the holidays. That's why I did it before.
Also, this forum was amazingly active- the entire 1st page was filled with same day posts- thus, I saw no reason why not to have the election- and this was one of the longest elections ever- 4 days instead of the usual 3.

Yeah but other people have to do a lot of other stuff before the holidays and have then some time.

-Martin

[DarkCloud]

Oh yes, and thank you all for voting!

Locutus, I do appreciate your offer to help people understand... but I was reasonably annoyed at people likie child of thor who just complain and don't post any votes.

At least you have to state in the first post or in the FAQ when the election ends.

Yeah, that was an accident. I forgot to do so. In the future, it will be listed in the FAQ. Marione pointed that out in the AC voting thread.

It's usually three days- but I'll make it four days from now on.

As for holidays- I don't know how I'll handle that- but I do want everyone to vote who can.

But luckily for you, the next vote is in december for 2 inductees!

And I';ve sort of been considering MariOnes' suggestion that

3rd.
wouldn't it be interesting to have SECTIONS in the HoF?
That is, like the big sections you see in the main Forums listing, AC, CIV2, CIVIII, etc.. "sub"-HoFs??? Just a thought. Most of the names I see in the HoF mean nothing to me, and I'm here since spring '99...

But am not certain how to best correctly implement it.

How about this: In December; voting will be 6 days.
for a future rule?

[DarkCloud]

*Sorry
Can't seem to delete this.

The curse of having 2 windows open at once and posting something in the wrong one.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Locutus, I do appreciate your offer to help people understand... but I was reasonably annoyed at people likie child of thor who just complain and don't post any votes.

I can understand that - that's why I felt a longer, more elaborate explanation of what this HoF is about was needed: one that discusses the history, reasons behind it, etc, etc - one that would make sense to newbies and on topicers as well. I think HuangShang summed up nicely how they must feel about this now:

whats this for. i dont know any of these people

As for holidays- I don't know how I'll handle that- but I do want everyone to vote who can.

If you want more people to vote, keeping it open for more than 3 days is *always* a good idea, holidays or no holidays

But luckily for you, the next vote is in december for 2 inductees!

You mean the next vote is 1 year from now?

And I';ve sort of been considering MariOnes' suggestion that

That's essentially what I suggested last time It'll get more people in and more on topicers too. This is getting rather ridiculous: CtP1/2 has until now always been the largest or second largest section of Apolyton, yet of the 42 member of the HoF not a single one has a real CtP background
Of course, as a long-time CtPer and the official CtP representative of the Apolyton Staff (and even the CtPer who's most likely to enter the HoF anytime soon (WTF? Wes, hex, skorp, Harlan or CD should be there, not me...)), I'm not exactly neutral in this case - but that can't be right by anyone's standards...

But am not certain how to best correctly implement it.

If you'd ask me (you probably wouldn't but that won't stop me from posting ), you should elect 1 or 2 member per section per vote. So use the current setup of 1 thread in every (major) section of Apolyton and have each of them elect the most deserving member from their own section - the one or two most popular of these enter the HoF (where you also state in which section they were elected). Pretty much like the Apolytoner of the Season thingie we had a couple of years ago. Of course, proper promotion to get a higher turn-out than this time would be required, but that shouldn't be too hard to do

[DarkCloud]

I meant January when I said december.

WTF? Wes, hex, skorp, Harlan or CD

Comrade Dan plays CTP?

Of course, proper promotion to get a higher turn-out than this time would be required, but that shouldn't be too hard to do http://apolyton.net/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Hmm.. If I sent you a news item- could you post it? Mark seemed to ignore my last posting PM for this situation.

I'm still not sure about 1 member from each section... What I was thinking was more like this: we force there to be one current/mostly on-topic poster; just to even out the OT's deluging of votes from the past counts that hold over ... Although this brings up the issue of on-topic poster? I consider myself to be on topic- or at least NOT-OT... but what about others... and many other people are ambiguious as well. It's just really hard to force 'sections' on the hall without really messing up the 'free-vote' system. I'll try to work out a way, however... What we really need to do is have You, me, and MariOne discuss this by PM or in a sort of 'discussion' thread for the future of the hall?

=
Also, would you care to elaborate more on the hall's purpose? I thought I did well without being too verbose and cant see what else to add without repeating myself?

As for where I'm posting the voting next time:
OT (main)
Civ III (main)

(Satellites)
CTP II MP
AC-General
Alt.Civ section-„³Clash of Civilizations (b/c it has 2nd most posts in alt.civ)
Civ III DemoGame
Apolyton Section (???)

[Locutus]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
I meant January when I said december.

Ok, cool.

Comrade Dan plays CTP?

I saw that one coming... In these forums CD stands for Celestial_Dawn, the godfather of CtP modmaking. No CtPer in his right mind would ever associate the name 'CD' with anyone else but him (Edit: come to think of it, he was actually the winner of the C:CtP Apolytoner of the Season award - he hasn't posted in a while but I think he still carries the official title)

Hmm.. If I sent you a news item- could you post it? Mark seemed to ignore my last posting PM for this situation.

I could only do so for the CtP sections (well, I *can* do it for the other sections but without permission from Dan and/or Markos that would probably cost me my 'job' ). But I'll be happy to have a chat with Markos and Dan about this (they tend to sometimes give suggestions from staff members more attention than suggestions from random forum posters ). A news item, or at least forum announcement, combined with topping your threads would go a long way towards getting the proper amount of attention to this.

Although this brings up the issue of on-topic poster? I consider myself to be on topic- or at least NOT-OT... but what about others... and many other people are ambiguious as well.

Exactly, this would be impossible to do. Even I, though clearly not an OTer, have posted in OTF on occassion, so it would be really hard to draw a line somewhere. That's why I favour the 'Apolytoner of the Season' system: if an OTer gets elected in the Civ2 section, he clearly is both an OTer *and* a Civ2er, that circumvents such problems.

What we really need to do is have You, me, and MariOne discuss this by PM or in a sort of 'discussion' thread for the future of the hall?

The more opinions the better, so IMHO definitely not by PM. If you start a thread in Community and post a link in the SMAC(?) section and here, MariOne and I (and anyone else interested) will find it.

Also, would you care to elaborate more on the hall's purpose? I thought I did well without being too verbose and cant see what else to add without repeating myself?

I'll see if I can write something up, for next time. Basically what you had wasn't too bad, but it was rather burried by the crapload of other info you included in your first 3 posts It needs to be slightly more elaborate and stand out more IMHO...

As for where I'm posting the voting next time:
OT (main)
Civ III (main)

(Satellites)
CTP II MP
AC-General
Alt.Civ section-„³Clash of Civilizations (b/c it has 2nd most posts in alt.civ)
Civ III DemoGame
Apolyton Section (???)

With 'CtP II MP', do you mean CtP2-General, CtP1-MP or both?
Aside from that, looks okay to me (I guess I'm not gonna convince you to include Civ2 this time, am I? )

[Locutus]

DarkCloud,
Well, I wrote a more elaborate and IMNSHO more suitable (i.e. newbie-friendly) introduction for the HoF. Much of it was actually ripped from the existing text because, as I said, it wasn't too bad, just a bit short and not striking enough between the huge amount of other data. It's based on the past edition in this forum, some bits would need to be adapted for future editions and possibly for other forums too. Of course, this is just a suggestion, feel free to ignore/change/add as you desire...



Hello and welcome to another edition of the Apolyton Hall of Fame!

What is it?
The Apolyton Hall of Fame (HoF) is a list of people who contributed a lot to the community here on Apolyton. For example: Xin Yu was inducted in the HoF for his incredible strategy and MP contributions to the Civ2 section, yin26 for his fantastic work on 'The List' with suggestions for Civ3. Every member of the Hall of Fame has made great contributions to Apolyton and the Civilization community - these people and their accomplishments must be remembered by us all! If you don't recognize many names you probably haven't been here very long and/or hardly ever post outside this forum - in that case this HoF might be a good opportunity to learn something about them. That is why this Hall of Fame was created: to remember and learn. Periodically, we shall hold a vote for the most popular Apolytoners: the ones who we think contribute the most to Apolyton, the ones who make Apolyton what it is. The winners shall be inducted in the Hall of Fame and their names will live forever in the annals of APOLYTON!

History
The idea for the Hall of Fame was born in late 2000. The first edition was held in December of that year and saw Markos and Dan, the owners and administrators of this site, and the first 10 regular posters be inducted. Since then, the HoF vote has been held 4 times a year and between 2 and 6 members have been inducted each time (this number is determined well in advance by DarkCloud, the organizer and administator of the HoF). Up until August 2002, the vote was held only in the Off Topic forum - from that time on it was also posted in other sections (first in Civ3, later also in SMAC, CtP1-MP, CtP2, etc). This is the first time the HoF vote is held in this forum. [DarkCloud: perhaps it might be needed/possible for you to expand on/correct this part? you're the expert after all]

This edition
Here is the thread for this year's December edition of the Hall of Fame vote. 3 new members will be inducted this time (there will be 13 new inductees in total in 2002). You have approximately 4 days to vote (until the 18th). Please vote today and elect some of your brethern to join the historic December class; consisting of such hallowed names as Adam Smith, DanQ, MarkG, Giant Squid, St Leo, Ming, Snapcase and more.

So now is your chance to decide: who should be inducted in the HoF this time? CD for this pioneer work in modding CtP1? WesW for his work on both MedMods, Hexagonian for his Cradle accomplishments? Or maybe Asher after all, for all his tech help and Microsoft promotion, or Fez for his amusing rants? It's up to you, now: Remember, your vote counts! [DarkCloud: this part is forum specific, if you can find the time to do this for each forum/find volunteers to do it for you ;-)]

Table of Contents
1) Hall of Fame Members
2) Alphabetical member list
3) Chronological member list (by date of induction)
4) Chronological member list (by registration date)
5) Information about the Hall of Famers
6) Rules for voting
7) FAQ
8) Current Standings
9) Who voted for Whom
[DarkCloud: use html links if you can be arsed (<a name="FAQ"> & <a href="#FAQ">)]





[DarkCloud: note the empty space and the ToC - they're not trivial, but rather needed to form a break, to clearly seperate the explanation from the crapload of other data you're providing; you could also post the actual data in a seperate post]

1) Hall of Fame Members

Apolyton Hall of Fame Members -39

December 2001 Adam Smith
December 2000 Alexander's Horse [The Apolyton Troll]
March 2001 Boshko (AKA Zhu Yuanzhang Dave Boshko, Boshko)

[...]

[DarkCloud]

With 'CtP II MP', do you mean CtP2-General, CtP1-MP or both

I meant CTP II general.

I could only do so for the CtP sections (well, I *can* do it for the other sections but without permission from Dan and/or Markos that would probably cost me my 'job' http://apolyton.net/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif). But I'll be happy to have a chat with Markos and Dan about this (they tend to sometimes give suggestions from staff members more attention than suggestions from random forum posters http://apolyton.net/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif). A news item, or at least forum announcement, combined with topping your threads would go a long way towards getting the proper amount of attention to this

Thank you for trying... although topping the threads might be overdoing it

The more opinions the better, so IMHO definitely not by PM. If you start a thread in Community and post a link in the SMAC(?) section and here, MariOne and I (and anyone else interested) will find it.

It would be best to do this in the chatroom; but I'll see about starting a thread in Apolyton section.

Wow. Your intro is quite elaborate; I'll look at it offline and make comments. Thanks

[Pedrunn]

Locutus, Hex, Dale

[Immortal Wombat]

week overdue Pedrunn.

[DarkCloud]

Here's the current revision:

POST 1

4th Post down from here contains VOTING RESULTS!

Hello and welcome to another edition of the Apolyton Hall of Fame!

What is it?
The Apolyton Hall of Fame (HoF) is a list of people who contributed a lot to the community here on Apolyton. For example: Xin Yu was inducted in the HoF for his incredible strategy and MP contributions to the Civ2 section, yin26 for his fantastic work on 'The List' with suggestions for Civ3. Every member of the Hall of Fame has made great contributions to Apolyton and the Civilization community - these people and their accomplishments must be remembered by us all! If you don't recognize many names you probably haven't been here very long and/or hardly ever post outside this forum - in that case this HoF might be a good opportunity to learn something about them. That is why this Hall of Fame was created: to remember and learn. Periodically, we hold a vote for the Apolytoners who we think contribute the most to Apolyton, the ones who make Apolyton what it is. The winners shall be inducted in the Hall of Fame and their names will live forever in the annals of APOLYTON!

History
The idea for the Hall of Fame was born in late 2000 as an outgrowth of the old Apolyton Army and Apolytoner of the Season Contests, seeking to honor the people of Apolyton in a more meaningful and structured way. The first edition was held in the Off Topic in December 2000 over a period of 3 days and is currently archived. The first election saw Markos and Dan, the owners and administrators of this site, and the first 10 posters inducted. Since then, the HoF vote has been held roughly 4 times a year with 11-14 total members being elected every year. Up until August 2002, the vote was held only in the Off Topic forum - from that time on it has been posted in other sections (first in Civ3, later also in SMAC, CtP1-MP, CtP2, etc).

Special Thanks/Why we do certain things:
Ming for archiving the first thread and helping manage the thread in its early days.
As per suggestion by MOBIUS, the last vote's are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Solver, all previous votes are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Martin Guhman, December votes are extended till 6 days.
As per suggestion by Locutus, introduction revised.

This edition
Welcome to the January 2003 edition of the APOLYTON HALL OF FAME

(2 Members to be inducted this session)
(Only 12 total will be elected this year)
You have approximately 4 days to vote (until the ___).

Please vote today and elect some of your brethern to join the historic December class; consisting of such hallowed names as Adam Smith, DanQ, MarkG, Giant Squid, St Leo, Ming, Snapcase and more.

So now is your chance to decide: who should be inducted in the HoF this time? Celestial_Dawn for this pioneer work in modding CtP1? WesW for his work on both MedMods, JohnT, the former Apolyton Librarian and debating poster, Googlie or Hydro for their extensive work in AC Fiction and Multiplayer, Hexagonian for his Cradle accomplishments? Or maybe orange for the Apolyton Yearbook? Or perhaps Fez for his amusing rants? It's up to you, now: Remember, your vote counts! And you only have 4 days in which to make it count!





Table of Contents
I Introduction Post
1) What is it
2) History
3) This Edition
4) Table of Contents

II Rules Post
1) Rules for voting
2) FAQ

III Hall Posting
1) Hall of Fame Members
2) Alphabetical member list
3) Chronological member list (by date of induction)
4) Chronological member list (by registration date)
5) Information about the Hall of Famers

IV Current Voting
1) Current Standings
2) Who voted for Whom


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And for Satellite threads; we'll include the
Notice:
This is a satellite thread: you may vote here, but the votes won't be updated in this thread- instead, they will be updated in these threads: OT (Link), Civ III (Link) Because they proved to be the most popular voting locations.