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Are they just going to end it at Arwen and Aragorn's wedding? Or are they even going to show that?
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If they cut The Grey Havens too then they are insane.
I don't think they'll do that. The final journey of Frodo, Bilbo and Gandalf is a crucial part of the story. The ending would make no sense if it stopped at the wedding.
Cutting the Scourging is bad enough, if the Grey Havens is cut too then it'll be a shite film. Like I said, though, I think Peter Jackson loves the books too much to end the film with the wedding.
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December 17, 2002, 14:41
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LOTR was animated, long before someone felt like applying resources required to make movie worthy of the book.
Eddings is definitely Tolkien-influenced, and The Belgariad is sooo funny. Easier reading than LOTR, which one has to get into swing of reading.
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December 17, 2002, 14:42
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The theatrical release didn't spend much time explaining the Gray Havens (but the extended version did). I don't know how they could add it without a lot of explanation.
Re the Scouring of the Shire, I agree that it's an important part of the book, but can't see how it would fit in the movie.
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December 17, 2002, 14:58
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Damn. Why cut the Scouring of the Shire? Didn't Frodo have a "vision" of sorts in TFOTR alluding to the Shire's fate?
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December 17, 2002, 15:00
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"Why cut the Scouring of the Shire?"
It would probably take a half hour of movie to do it. At the end, it would be sort of a downer, and would feel like it was merely tacked on to the end.
Even the Gray Havens would only take 10 minutes, tops.
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December 17, 2002, 15:05
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DanS:
True, but then again the movie also focuses a lot more on the Battle of Helm's Deep, which the book didn't apparently spend a great deal of time on (despite it being pivotal in humanity's future).
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December 17, 2002, 15:11
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I got 6 tickets for the friday show at 10:30pm, in the second biggest movie theater in the world. Anyone care to join me?
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December 17, 2002, 15:14
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and they'll probably include the scourching of the Shire in the Extended Edition of RotK.
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December 17, 2002, 15:48
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Wednesday will be a good day. Get up, make like I'm going to school, go to my brothers' apartment instead, watch Fellowship with my brothers and a pseudo-brother, get on the subway, head down to DC, watch The Two Towers at 2:50 at the Uptown, go home. Very fun indeed. But oh the lies I'll have to tell to my parents...
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December 17, 2002, 16:40
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
I got 6 tickets for the friday show at 10:30pm, in the second biggest movie theater in the world. Anyone care to join me?
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If you'll take care of the plane ticket?
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December 17, 2002, 16:55
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Watched the extended DVD last weekend to get ready...
Bought my tickets last night for a showing tomorrow night at 6:00...
Planning on going again next Saturday...
Yeah, I'm ready for it!!!
RE: Frodo's vision - It was defined as 'possibility' in the movie if the Ring was recovered by Sauron. I'm also guessing Peter Jackson has Saruman killed in TTT, so 'Scouring' will be reduced in importance. Just speculation though.
Grey Havens needs to stay in!!!
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December 17, 2002, 17:06
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Incidentally, SEE HEX'S SIG
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December 17, 2002, 17:09
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I don't have CTP2. Is there a Civ version of the scenario?
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December 17, 2002, 17:13
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Only Harlan's. But you must have played that already, right?
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December 17, 2002, 17:53
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If you'll take care of the plane ticket?
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If you can convince me you are a cute gal I would
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December 17, 2002, 17:54
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If you can convince me you are a cute gal I would
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That's fine. I'll go see it in an American theater then.
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December 17, 2002, 18:19
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I'll go see it in an American theater then.
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pfff...American...
fine, you go see it in a tiny little theater then, with a screen half the size. Just come here, I got a 7.10 euro ticket to the movie here waiting for you on my desk.
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December 17, 2002, 18:38
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December 17, 2002, 19:04
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The movie reviewer at CNN is officially a frickin' idiot.
Some quotes from his review of the Two Towers:
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The overprotective Sam harbors an immediate dislike towards Gollum, but the ever-trusting Frodo, perhaps feeling a kinship for someone who has also had to bear the pressures and consequences of holding the ring, takes pity on the strange, hairless little being. Gollum joins Sam and Frodo, leading them to the fortress of the evil wizard Saruman, played by Christopher Lee, whose hairdo looks a lot like Cher's in her latest music video. But I digress. Saruman intends to regain the ring, which will give him the power to throw Middle Earth into everlasting darkness and despair.
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Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli face much more action, intrigue and deception in the Kingdom of Rohan, while Sam and Frodo -- who have penetrated the fortress at Barad-dur deep within the dark forests of Mordor -- barely survive numerous attempts to kill them and steal the ring.
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I'm assuming it's the CNN reviewer (Paul Clinton) who's the idiot, and Peter Jackson hasn't changed the story beyond recognition. Did he even watch the movie, or was he just making it up out of his ass?
Here's the whole thing:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ers/index.html
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December 17, 2002, 19:55
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Weird review.
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December 17, 2002, 21:29
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i scored tickets for myself and a friend at the midnight showing tonight, i'm about to go get cleaned up and get ready for it, but all i'm saying is i can't wait!!!!
i hadn't read any of the LotR books before I saw the first movie, but after seeing it on the first night i have being waiting for this day to come around, i read the first book after seeing the movie, and i will read the second after seeing the movie (this may sound weird but i don't want the book spoiling the movie for me) so i go into this not knowing exactly what will happen
i'm excited!
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December 17, 2002, 22:14
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I'm going to go see LotR:TT tonight at midnight, so I'll give my opinion around 4 when I get back. (I have to drive a hour to get to the closest movie theatre playing it at midnight)
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December 17, 2002, 22:55
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Did he even watch the movie, or was he just making it up out of his ass?
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Hmmm... if he was making it out of his ass, how would he have known what Barad-dur was?
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December 17, 2002, 23:23
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"I got 6 tickets for the friday show at 10:30pm, in the second biggest movie theater in the world. Anyone care to join me?"
How many seats does the theater have? Stadium seating?
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December 18, 2002, 00:11
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i'm leaving in 10 minutes!
i can't wait!!!!!!
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December 18, 2002, 05:09
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Someone let us know if it's Paul Clinton or Peter Jackson who is a complete idiot.
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December 18, 2002, 05:09
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ok i'm home from the movie, i completely enjoyed it, houston we have a good movie
we got to the theater about 11:30 and i live in a small town in rural virginia, our theater has 8 screens, and i jokingly told my friend when we got there that they'd be showing the two towers on every screen and much to my suprise they were! for the first time ever they had all 8 screens playing the same movie, i haven't ever seen the parking lot that crowded, and it's midnight on a tuesday night...i'm sure that their won't be that many people at a midnight showing of a movie for a long time
we tried the first four screens but they were completely full so we settled on screen 6, we found us seats and although wasn't completely full it was packed, while the lights were on there was some guy reading his copy of the two towers, it just stood out to me when the movie finally started you had a theater full of happy people
i'm not going to give any major spoilers, just impressions
the movie was long, but it had a good pace, and it wasn't draggy, in my opinion the first movie was draggier than the two towers, while some of the scenes in the first movie stood out more, there really wasn't a bad or needless scene in the entire movie imo
it was also a very funny movie! the entire audience broke out into laughter on many occasions, here are my top three funniest moments in the movie
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1) when gimli falls off of his horse and is like "nobody panic, that was delibriate!"
2) when frodo and sam are detained, and they ask sam if he is frodo's body guard and he said "no i'm his gardener"
3) when gollum had the argument with himself, the entire theater was laughing
there was one really cool scene where legolas spots some wolf riders and sounds the alarm, and when gimli rides by he jumps on the horse, it was cgi and completely elf like! a very nice touch...the guy setting behind me was "holy fvck!"
i think that this movie is more light hearted than the first, it is certainly funnier, the pacing is good, and it entertained me for 3 hours and 17 minutes!
two thumbs up
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December 18, 2002, 05:15
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I just got back from seing it, & I've got to say, it's better than the first movie.
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December 18, 2002, 07:11
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Watched a program on tv last night, I forget which channel.. DirecTV... it was called The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers. Return To Middle Earth.
Basically it was a "The Making of" type show... very informative and interesting. Making me want to go see it again. I think I will go again this weekend. Besides, It doesn't cost me a dime to watch.  :-P~~
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December 18, 2002, 08:22
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I'm going to see it friday morning, when no ones at the movies but me and my mates.  But first we are going to see the animated movie The Hobbit, then the Fellowship DVD extended, and then go to the movies. WOOHOO! Gonna get up at ungodly hours for this.
Paul Clinton had his head up his a$$ the entire movie. "Saruman intends to REGAIN the ring"? He never had it in the first place, it was Sauron's. Read the book you ignoramoose!
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