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December 21, 2002, 02:50
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I don't think athiests should get christmas bonus checks
This is sure to make me popular in a forum full of athiests 
If athiests don't buy presents for people and don't have holiday gatherings why should they get christmas bonus'? And this is even more controversial, but non-christians should not get christmas bonus'. Maybe they can get a bonus on their religions major holy day, I don't know. These are just some random thoughts, please don't take them too seriously.
Granted, if a company had that policy you wouldn't have people saying they are athiests, everyone would be a christian.
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December 21, 2002, 03:00
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If the Christmas bonus came directly from God, sure.
But it doesn't. Also:
Non-Christians buy presents for each other at Christmas too. Its a tradition.
The bonus is for the hard work leading up to the holiday period. Unless you believe athiests don't work as hard as religious people, why wouldn't they get rewarded the same?
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December 21, 2002, 03:12
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Ridiculous. Christmas is, after all, considered by most to be more economically oriented than religiously oriented. Atheists are expected to get presents just as much as religious people are. Besides, it's simple monetary discrimination based on religion.
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December 21, 2002, 03:12
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bonus checks aren't for hard work.
That is what your regular paycheck is for. Bonus checks are to help people make it through the holiday season because they have to buy gifts and plan events.
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December 21, 2002, 03:14
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and work places discriminate all the time. Hell I get penalized because I don't smoke.
And don't get me started how the goverment discriminates against me because I don't have children or a wife.
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December 21, 2002, 03:19
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"Bonus checks are to help people make it through the holiday season because they have to buy gifts and plan events."
And in this society, atheists have to buy gifts and plan for events… it's that simple.
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December 21, 2002, 03:20
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bah!
You athiest are conformists!!!
If I was an athiest I would say screw you, I'm not buying any gifts.
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December 21, 2002, 03:21
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Well I guess I get the point.
There is no need for this thread anymore. I guess most athiest still buy christmas gifts for some reason. 
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December 21, 2002, 03:28
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Christmas is a commercial holiday, not a religious one
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December 21, 2002, 03:31
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commercial holiday?
Then change the name to festivus dammit! 
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December 21, 2002, 03:42
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For me, there are three parts of christmas: economic christmas, religious christmas, and family gathering christmas. In my family's tradition, we have approximately 5/8ths family, 2/8ths economic, and 1/8th religious.
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December 21, 2002, 03:43
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OK time for a threadjack.
I'm intrigued by how many christians they say are in the world. I think that number is way too high. I think a lot of athiests lie and say they are christian. Why do they do this?
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December 21, 2002, 03:46
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Christmas isn't just a religious holiday anymore.
To many people (myself included), it's more of a family situation. Family day + Thanksgiving + Birthday all rolled into one if you will.
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December 21, 2002, 03:46
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Christmas was "Highjacked" by "Madison Avenue" Years ago so you have to "Live It or Live With It".
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December 21, 2002, 04:16
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I don't think athiests should get christmas bonus checks
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Shouldn't this be the other way around??
You get the spiritual satisfaction, we the material 
btw: It's a pagan festivity!!!!
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To many people (myself included), it's more of a family situation. Family day + Thanksgiving + Birthday all rolled into one if you will.
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December 21, 2002, 04:19
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Ok, but then we deserve festivus bonuses.
BTW, most atheists do participate in Christmas festivities (presents, family gathering with a big meal, etc.). Hell, I'm in a Moslem family, and we do that. It's like Thanksgiving.
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December 21, 2002, 06:21
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It should be called yule as it was intended. Another christian theft 
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December 21, 2002, 06:44
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 i almost fell off my chair reading this title
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December 21, 2002, 07:09
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I didn't know that there still was such a thing as Christmas Bonuses?
All that they have given out where I work in many years is a damned turkey and they even quit doing that several years ago! 
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December 21, 2002, 07:15
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Re: I don't think athiests should get christmas bonus checks
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This is sure to make me popular in a forum full of athiests
If athiests don't buy presents for people and don't have holiday gatherings why should they get christmas bonus'? And this is even more controversial, but non-christians should not get christmas bonus'. Maybe they can get a bonus on their religions major holy day, I don't know. These are just some random thoughts, please don't take them too seriously.
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Umm... no... I don't celebrate Christmas but the month of December just happens to be a month where I travel with my parents and buy things. My dad is agnostic (like most of my family, except with my grandmother on my mom's side who is a devout catholic) but he still should get his bonus check every christmas. Why shouldn't we? And by the way Christmas is more capitalist than it is Christian nowadays.
BTW, not to be a nick picker it is spelled atheists. 
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December 21, 2002, 07:50
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This is a dumb thread, but what the hell.
I'm an atheist who celebrates Christmas as devotedly as any Christian. It has wonderful traditions and is about gift giving within the family -- especially to children.
I personal couldn't care less that it falls on the once-supposed birthday of a quasi-mythical figure in some religion that I don't believe in. The date has IMHO far more lasting and significant value in human history as approximating the Winter Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, and the re-emergence as the days get longer again.
Christians are certainly welcome to use the day to commemorate their god. I have always maintained that August needs a holiday, and would serve well to host the Birth Celebration of the Great Green Pixie, and I'm more than willing to let Christians have the month off as well as we holders of the one, true GGP faith.
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December 21, 2002, 07:53
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I think that Christians should give their Christmas bonus away to charity.
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December 21, 2002, 07:55
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And that they shouldn't have hijacked our perfectly good pagan celebration.
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December 21, 2002, 07:56
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Being Christian is not financially sound.
Being Christian is very close to being a socialist which is its most apealing aspect.
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December 21, 2002, 08:20
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Being Christian is not financially sound.
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It doesn't make financial sense in a consumerist world. But in a world of flat growth, little investment, and most people operating at a level of bare self-sufficiency, it's probably the most finanically sound philosophy out there.
Also, people who flake out on Christianity and abandon their worldly goods often turn out a lot more interesting than people who flake out on Capitalism. Granted, they don't smell nearly as nice...
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December 21, 2002, 08:36
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The worse of them all are Christian Capitalists. (besides the oxymoron)
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December 21, 2002, 08:43
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you really like DF, don't you.
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December 21, 2002, 11:53
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Originally posted by Dissident
bonus checks aren't for hard work.
That is what your regular paycheck is for. Bonus checks are to help people make it through the holiday season because they have to buy gifts and plan events.
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Do you even work? I'm asking because it seems you have a pretty antiquated view of how companies view bonuses.
The 'Christmas bonus' went out with the Edsel and the stay-at-home mom. Companies don't have the inclination to give out freebies for Xmas shopping anymore. Now, shareholders would axe any directors who did that sort of thing.
Of course, people still get bonuses around Xmas... however, Xmas conveniently happens to fall right around the year end. And the year end bonus is typically given, in companies where it exists, for hard work/meeting targets/being an employee in good standing. If Canada Day fell on Dec 24 and Xmas was in July, it'd be called the Canada Day bonus... 
Oh, and I doubt many companies would be allowed to discriminate on a religious basis like that, anyway. Too many human rights codes out there for that.
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December 21, 2002, 13:49
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Back in the Evil Empire, Santa Claus (well, Geezer Frost, a fat guy with a beard and stuff) came and gave gifts on New Year's. Gift-giving isn't just for Eksians on their Eksmas.
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December 21, 2002, 14:59
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yes I work and I got my bonus yesterday. It wasn't much. Damn cheap company.
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