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View Poll Results: Should Mentuhotep rush Universal Suffrage?
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December 22, 2002, 00:30
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SENATE BILL: Assignment of Mentuhotep
I propose the following bill:
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The senate hereby orders the movement of Mentuhotep to Loveshack, where he will rush-build Universal Suffrage.
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Prepoll is located here. Poll lasts 3 days.
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December 22, 2002, 00:36
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Deity
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Yay.
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December 22, 2002, 01:07
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Ther's another civ building US? or any wonder?
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December 22, 2002, 03:51
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Unanimous so far.
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December 22, 2002, 04:27
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Originally posted by Aro
Ther's another civ building US? or any wonder?
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Yes, currently 6 others:
Rome at Cumae
Greece at Athens
Aztecs at Tzintzuntzen
Germany at Berlin
England at Coventry
India at Jaipar
So if they don't get Sci Method in the next turn, they will lose all of the shields thay put into it...
E_T
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December 22, 2002, 05:24
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I am going to hold my vote on this for a few days. I have been thinking that this would be perfect because we can WASTE the AIs production AS LONG AS they do not get Scientific Method. I want to review the save and stew on this for a day befor I vote.
Mss
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December 22, 2002, 10:02
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Is there any risk the AI will buid US before we do if we don't use Mentuhotep now?
Aidun
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December 22, 2002, 10:17
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Is there any risk the AI will buid US before we do if we don't use Mentuhotep now?
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Absolutely. All it would take is one GL by someone like say Greece. And since we have deliberately involved them and just about the entire world in the Great War, this has to be considered a destinct possibility.
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December 22, 2002, 10:24
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Originally posted by roadcage
Absolutely. All it would take is one GL by someone like say Greece. And since we have deliberately involved them and just about the entire world in the Great War, this has to be considered a destinct possibility.
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Then I vote for using Mentuhotep to finish US and then plan the other wonders as Spiffor suggested in the prepoll.
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December 22, 2002, 10:42
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hi ,
yep ,
with a bit of luck we might even get a second GL , .......
now this is really a small breaktrue , of course with the help of a great government
have a nice day
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December 22, 2002, 11:17
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IMHO chances are that we'll get at least two more GLs out of this war. With the Heroic Epic built, the chances for generating a GL when an elite unit wins an attack are 1/12, and 1/24 when an elite unit defends itself successfully. With so many battles in plan, I'd be surprised if we don't get at least two more GLs.
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December 22, 2002, 11:36
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IMO, this Bill is premature and wrong. Valid options are still being discussed in the other thread. Also, I would like to see a real poll with options for some of the alternatives presented, not just a Yes/No on ONE option - what kind of poll is that? I will not vote on this Bill.
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December 22, 2002, 11:49
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THe problem with that is the number of Elite Units that we have. We have 3 Elilte Cavalry, 2 Elite Knights and 1 Elite Swordsman.
In the last fight, we gained 1 Etile Cav, but also lost one. THese numbers as present don't give us vary good odds.
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December 22, 2002, 12:25
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We've lost an elite in a defensive fight. Rest assured that we'll be attacking most of the time, and thanks to our artillery which will back us up in most battles, we will rarely lose units, especially elite ones.
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December 22, 2002, 17:58
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HOW TO GENERATE MASSIVE GL's:
Take all available artillery and leave them on the railroad. Place all available Elite units with them. Don't hinder enemy units from getting adjacent to our railroad tile. (battles in enemy territory are fought by veteran units who join the Elite Brigade on the railroad after they get that rank)
Transport artillery next to enemy units and bombard them to one hitpoint. Transport Elite units and go "fishing" for GL's. (Once a unit generates a GL I then add in to an army)
This is my tactic and I havn't lost an Elite in this type of combat yet. I have had problems of being Elite heavy with approx 75% of my military being Elite and then sending some to the front because there were too many on the railroad.
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December 22, 2002, 19:08
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Originally posted by dejon
IMO, this Bill is premature and wrong. Valid options are still being discussed in the other thread.
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I'm sorry I was a little hasty;  now that I think about it, it could have waited, since there's no way another turnchat will be held before most of the gov. breaks for Christmas.
On the other hand, what other options?  Spiffor has a good idea for alternative uses of our TFC shields, but his plan, too, calls for a rush of US. I have yet to see anyone present a third plan that would use him for an army/a different rush.
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Also, I would like to see a real poll with options for some of the alternatives presented, not just a Yes/No on ONE option - what kind of poll is that? I will not vote on this Bill.
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It's a bill poll.  Bills are supposed to be yes/no.
I could have made a poll with more options, yes, but aside from an army (which is IMHO wasteful now that we have the Heroic Epic) or saving him (which I think would also be wasteful, since we can make more attempts once he's used), what options are there?
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December 22, 2002, 21:15
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Could the people voting no to this bill give reasons why they think no, it will allow more rigorus debate, and will give us something to think about
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December 23, 2002, 01:17
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Briefly catching up while everyone else is asleep.
Voting yes, use him this turn on WS to maximize chances of additional GLs.
I trust that the shields built up for WS can be switched to something else without losing them by the Domestic Ministry.
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December 23, 2002, 01:58
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I don't see wasting him on Wall Street since its something we can ALWAYS build. Taking Universal Sufferage now and denying the other civs the possibliity of saving those shields for another Wonder is the better option.
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December 23, 2002, 09:57
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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
I don't see wasting him on Wall Street since its something we can ALWAYS build. Taking Universal Sufferage now and denying the other civs the possibliity of saving those shields for another Wonder is the better option.
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hi ,
 , indeed it is , ......
and it would help our WW , ....
have a nice day
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December 23, 2002, 14:24
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I love the irony...
Loveshack....
Sufferage......
and the recent Draft...........
Love it.
GK
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December 26, 2002, 11:41
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*bump*
Please note that this bill has passed.
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December 28, 2002, 14:16
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Originally posted by Arnelos
*bump*
Please note that this bill has passed.
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hi ,
magnificent
have a nice day
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