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View Poll Results: Should the slaves be emancipated?
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Yes! Free them ASAP!
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Yes, but at our convenience; complete all PW improvement first
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No! Crack that whip!
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December 24, 2002, 12:52
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We should have them work for us as long as posible. I vote to CRACK THE WHIP!
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December 24, 2002, 13:07
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Originally posted by Aidun
Sorry, you are counting wrongly. It is (92+66)/(804+92).
Otherwise you are counting the domestic workets twice.
the answer to this sum is 17,6%. we still keep 804-66=738 Lytons par turn as our National Income. Isn't that enough?
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You're correct, but it doesn't make things any different from my point of view. It is still uneconomical and detrimental to our progress. We still lose 66 free workers.
Let's crack that whip, 'cause the slaves are going nowhere.
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December 24, 2002, 16:37
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While foreigners integrated into the urbanized workforce have an excellent (100%) track record of assimilation to Apolytonian cultural norms and conversion to worship of the Great Banana, the foreigns made into slaves have a horrible (0%) track record of assimilation into Apolytonian cultural norms and conversion to worship of the Great Banana.
Due to the commandments of the Great Banana that all territory under our domain be filled with people who are properly thankful for his mercy and grace, we have no choice but to free these slaves, that they may learn in our temples, our schools, our libraries, our cathedrals, and other areas about the enlightenment of Apolyton and the merciful grace of the Great Banana.
If you believe in the Great Banana, you have no choice but to choose that option which will be in line with his teachings in mercy: FREE THE SLAVES THAT THEY MAY COME TO THE TRUTH OF THE GREAT BANANA.
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December 24, 2002, 16:38
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Originally posted by Shiber
Let's crack that whip, 'cause the slaves are going nowhere.
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You obviously don't belong in the Labor Party
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December 24, 2002, 16:55
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Noone has yet told me that I am not allowed to be a nationalist. I see the complete replacement of domestic workers with slaves as the best thing for our own workers, who can return to the cities and specialize and then supervise the slaves, run factories, work as bankers, teach at the universities or research new technologies. Additionally, we will soon have openings for policemen, which still pay more than field workers.
As for your stance, I'm surprised that the DIA party is so much in favor of "freeing" slaves. After all, you represent the industrialists, and as such I'd expect you to support what is good for Apolytonia economically.
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Last edited by Shiber; December 24, 2002 at 17:19.
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December 24, 2002, 17:16
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Shiber, I feel that through you Labour and ARMS can work together, for a more pure future.
Arnelos, you are trying to use the Great Bananna as a cover to achieve your own means. Freeing the slaves leaves them as pagans, and for some reason you wish to do that to them, even though they are AI, we have to give them a chance to convert to the true religion in this life. There is something evil growing in the DIA, it disappoints me, yet it no suprise.
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December 24, 2002, 17:37
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Originally posted by Arnelos
You obviously don't belong in the Labor Party
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Shiber may be a minority in the ALP as far as his slavery issues are concerned, however this is no reason to cancel his membership, nor do I intend to do so. While I disagree with him ethically on this issue, he has provided several insightful ideas on how we can resurrect our economy, and for that I commend him.
After all, parties themselves may often disagree.
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December 24, 2002, 18:35
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I commend the Labour party on there willingness to have a broad view inside party membership, that is another area where the pagan DIA falters, ultimately I hope all parties can realise the importance of the message of the Great Bananna.
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It's only roleplay DIA members, really I love ya all, but you are the ones in control and with numbers, don't quote this non roleplay bit for roleplay
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December 24, 2002, 19:46
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Originally posted by Nolan
It's only roleplay DIA members, really I love ya all, but you are the ones in control and with numbers, don't quote this non roleplay bit for roleplay
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Of course I'm really enjoying all this role-play myself and my disparaging of you is entirely roleplay as well
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December 24, 2002, 19:59
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Before you criticize a slave, build a mile of road in his place. That way, if he gets angry at you he's enjoying his freedom a mile away in Banana HQ.
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December 24, 2002, 23:28
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Originally posted by Shiber
You're correct, but it doesn't make things any different from my point of view. It is still uneconomical and detrimental to our progress. We still lose 66 free workers.
Let's crack that whip, 'cause the slaves are going nowhere.
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I keep saying that liberty is and should be above economy.
EQUALITY BEFORE LAW, freedom of religion, of press and of expression of opinion should be self-evident! These liberal basic principles should be the basic of every society!
Soon we're discovering really modern technologies, we need skilled and educated people that are willing to work!
I'm a modern industrialist. I haven't seen the past, and I know it just from tales. I only look at this time. In the world as it now is slavery may be cheap, but inferior in the factory, inferior on the farms, in the mines and in the road- and railroadbuiding industry!
Liberals and Labour UNITE in the struggle against slavery!
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Arnelos, what is the DIA-view on this point, or is this just individual?
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December 25, 2002, 21:54
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Comments please...
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December 25, 2002, 22:17
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December 26, 2002, 01:19
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Hmmm your short term obsessions with this life will bring the wrath of the Great Bananna down on all of us, it is a test, and all you do is try to convince people to fail it, your words are poison
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December 27, 2002, 01:00
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Aidun.
BTW, mathematical note: our slaves are not 66 free workers, they are 33 free workers. Slaves work half as fast as motivated, payed ones.
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December 27, 2002, 01:08
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Time to start the A.S.E..:d:
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