December 24, 2002, 03:48
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Prince
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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugle
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December 24, 2002, 03:50
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Prince
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December 24, 2002, 03:51
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Prince
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December 24, 2002, 03:53
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Prince
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December 24, 2002, 12:42
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Emperor
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Evil, evil Stack of Doom. 
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December 24, 2002, 12:57
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Prince
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Does the game end at this point?? What happens??
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December 24, 2002, 15:30
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Prince
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Oh my. 
A lot of strategy on deity through the early game seems to boil down to, stay out of the AI's way. Keep a low profile, and wait a few centuries or so (for superior human micro-management to s - l - o - w - l - y accumulate.
Not that I'm any kind of expert, though. I've faced similar SOD's myself. Good luck Jawa! 
....
Jawa?
Anybody seen Jawa?
He was here just a minute ago. Over there, standing right near that light blue smear on the ground.
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December 24, 2002, 19:48
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King
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Ouch! 
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December 24, 2002, 19:49
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King
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And I thought emperor was hard. 
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The attempt to produce Heaven on Earth often produces Hell. -Karl Popper
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December 26, 2002, 16:40
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Prince
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I'm sorry I still don't have time to write this up yet. Here is a quick summary
I was forced to retire by the atzecs. I could not make them happy diplomatically, and I don't stand a chance military wise. I was able to manage the Iroqoius as a neighbor put the Green Machine just kept rollling on.
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December 28, 2002, 10:50
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Prince
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I decided if I really want to get my 1st Deity win I should try an easier civ. Here is my 2nd attempt for a Deity win.
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December 28, 2002, 10:53
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Prince
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A medium start. Flood plains can be a problem but also allow for fast growth. I decided to move to the plain across the river (couldn't remember if that helped disease or not).
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December 28, 2002, 10:58
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Prince
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The move was good after all since it brought Ivory into range. Unfortunately the Carthages brought warriors over and popped two goodie huts before I could build my 1st warrior. Both huts popped barbs and I was swarmed. I lost my worker and some tile improvements. 7 Carthagian warrior came over in the next 5 turns and the game was quickly lost.
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December 28, 2002, 11:04
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Prince
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2 losses is not a big deal, so I'll try for a 3rd time. Beside I need to get a good Deity game up and running. I'm trying to start a statregy thread to encourage others to critique my play style. But this damn thread is turning into a story thread (about me losing) 
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December 28, 2002, 11:05
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Prince
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3rd try - Egypt again
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December 28, 2002, 11:08
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Prince
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I liked this start better. I'm still stuck on a flood plain but I have a possible IW start. Plenty of food and shields all I need to due is get that 2nd city up and running so all of my eggs are not in the same basket.
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December 28, 2002, 11:13
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Prince
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Everything was going great and then... One turn away from finishing my settler disease struck. I lost 2 people and switched to temple. My worker was right next to a goodie hut. Remembering my last game when someone else popped my huts, I decided to pop it myself. Bad idea. Soon I found out I was alone on an island and decided to quit (this just won't help my chariot rush).
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December 28, 2002, 11:35
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Prince
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Dude your really having some tough luck with this
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December 28, 2002, 12:08
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Prince
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Obviously I had picked the wrong civ again. China is who I should be playing.
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December 28, 2002, 12:09
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Prince
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Mountains, desert, and flood plains! How could this be any worse?
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December 28, 2002, 12:11
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Prince
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How about surrounding me with Jungles too 
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December 28, 2002, 12:14
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Prince
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The other civs on this land mass had great areas. Lots of Grassland. While this start have been an easy win on Monarchy, it would be quite a challenge for me on Emperor and since I'm playing Deity....
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December 28, 2002, 12:15
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Prince
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I wanted a better starting area so I re-tried China.
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December 28, 2002, 12:17
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Prince
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Not bad. That goodie hut was empty. This time the Mongols got an insane start. They had 4 cities before my first one.
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December 28, 2002, 12:19
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Prince
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The Mongol horde forced my early retirement. Look at how many cities they have (Yellow). And keep in my I'm rexing AFAP.
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December 30, 2002, 21:40
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Prince
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Back to my theory of needing the right civ. I'm going to try France with the idea that the Commercial trait will help since I can't outperform the AI in the early game.
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December 30, 2002, 21:41
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Prince
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Okay how many times can I randomly be on a flood plain. And once again disease strikes the turn before my settler is complete. 
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December 30, 2002, 21:47
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Prince
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For those of you keeping score I have lost 6 times (America, Egypt, Egypt, China, China, and France).
Lucky #7  
This thread will now start being what it was supposed to be. Hopefully, my first Deity win.
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December 30, 2002, 22:22
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Prince
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No flood plains this time
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December 30, 2002, 22:23
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Prince
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Keep it up Jawa. I'm sure its just a matter of time. The floodplains are screwing you.
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