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YES! He's absolutely berserk that IG stole his baby and turned it into crud, sold crud with his name on it, and so am I!!!
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Yes, he's a bit miffed that civ3 has his name on it but is below his standards.
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No, he's actually pleased that so many people like civ3 even under circumstances and feels good about his name on the front.
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NO! He's absolutely thrilled that it was such a cool game his name is on even without him and plays it all the time.
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Bananas: he's glad to have this horrible episode behind him and not have to work on a game he designed years ago so he can play golf until RoN comes out.
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December 25, 2002, 23:06
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Sid's state of mind
Does anyone think Sid is bitter about having his name on a game like civ3 that, lets face it, no matter how much I love is actually dumbed down and not all that excellent as it could have been under his leadership?
I mean he started Firaxis so he could do stuff his way and Infogrumps basically shafted him. And Reynolds.
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December 25, 2002, 23:25
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I'm sure his wife loves it. She's loving it all the way to the bank.
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December 25, 2002, 23:26
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How could Sid not be happy about having "Sid Meier's..." filling the store shelves?
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December 25, 2002, 23:27
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Concidering how IG is treating the Firaxis fans with all the rushing and bad translating and bad patching and all, maybe she won't be loving for so long....
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December 25, 2002, 23:29
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I doubt he cares anymore...
See ya on the 18th hole Sid. 
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December 25, 2002, 23:29
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Originally posted by Osweld
How could Sid not be happy about having "Sid Meier's..." filling the store shelves?
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Because of shame that what's in the box doesn't have the quality his name should have? Because all the gamemags are (unfortunately) giving bad reviews and ruining his rep?
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December 25, 2002, 23:32
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Because of shame that what's in the box doesn't have the quality his name should have? Because all the gamemags are (unfortunately) giving bad reviews and ruining his rep?
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My point was, he's got his name plastered all over the place, and his wallet full of money. You think anything else matters? If it did, Civ3 wouldn't be what it is. (he is a very influencial person in the gaming industry, I don't buy that he was pushed around by the publisher at all)
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December 25, 2002, 23:32
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Well, Sid is looking toward old game titles right now (X-COM presumably). Bringing one of those games back should more than make up for any problem people have with Civ3.
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December 25, 2002, 23:56
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My point was, he's got his name plastered all over the place, and his wallet full of money. You think anything else matters? If it did, Civ3 wouldn't be what it is. (he is a very influencial person in the gaming industry, I don't buy that he was pushed around by the publisher at all)
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Oh, I get you now. Yes, I partly agree that the money bit is good and publicity is always good. 
However I can't get my head around that fact that Sid gave his name to this thing (after Firaxis faught in court with Microprose for his name) and then walked out. Reynolds too. I guess that they wouldn't be happy that it's not as deep as say SMAC or even civ2 in some repects (but not others). I guess there's onyl one way to find this all out:
Sid, Reynolds, if you guys are listening we'd love to here from you!!!
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December 26, 2002, 00:08
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However I can't get my head around that fact that Sid gave his name to this thing (after Firaxis faught in court with Microprose for his name) and then walked out.
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You're thinking of Activision, not Firaxis.
Activision is what created the Abomination known as Call to Power.
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December 26, 2002, 00:21
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oh yeah.... oops.
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December 26, 2002, 00:27
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No, Sid doesn't care about deep games much. He likes to make fun games. If a fun game happens to be deep, so much the better.
As for game reviewers, yeah right. Look how many of them gave Black and White raving reviews. 'nuff said.
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December 26, 2002, 01:36
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Sid actually died 6 years ago and the gurus @ firaxis prop him up on sticks for tours / publicity.
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December 26, 2002, 01:51
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I wonder if Sid secretly has an account here and is posting under an alias  ... Anways, is this conjecture based on an interview or anything that Sid said? Or is it just spam?
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December 26, 2002, 02:18
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Sid actually died 6 years ago and the gurus @ firaxis prop him up on sticks for tours / publicity.
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actually there are mutiple sids. they cloned him thinking more sid to think of great game titles would be an excellent idea but i guess the genetic sample mutated and all the copies are producing horrible games now...
btw apoc love ur new avatar~
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December 26, 2002, 02:37
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Re: Sid's state of mind
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Originally posted by aahz_capone
I mean he started Firaxis so he could do stuff his way and Infogrumps basically shafted him. And Reynolds.
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It's infogreed, get it right
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December 26, 2002, 03:37
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I hope Sid understands that because of Civ III, I will never buy another game with his name on it.
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December 26, 2002, 07:30
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BTW, it's IGE, not IG. 
Well, as for Sid's state of mind, I'm not a shrink, so I can't say it either. 
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December 27, 2002, 04:56
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WTF does Sid care as long as he has money? Everyone knows BR was the reason those games were good.
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I hope Sid understands that because of Civ III, I will never buy another game with his name on it.
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My thoughts exactly 'cause goddamn Civ 3 sucked.
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December 27, 2002, 05:37
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No, Sid doesn't care about deep games much. He likes to make fun games. If a fun game happens to be deep, so much the better.
As for game reviewers, yeah right. Look how many of them gave Black and White raving reviews. 'nuff said.
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Yeah. Look at how many of them gave Civ3 raving reviews. Thats DEFINATELY 'nuff said 
I've lost all faith in Sid Meier and have therefore replaced my "Gaming Diety of Our Lifetimes" with Brian Reynolds. Him having created Civ2 and BRAC (2 of the top 3 games of all time...) he certainly deserves to be at the top.
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December 27, 2002, 09:02
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I'll be the contrarian on this hate-fest. I like Civ3 and PTW. A lot. Even though neither Sid nor Brian had much to do with it.
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December 28, 2002, 01:24
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Yeah. Look at how many of them gave Civ3 raving reviews. Thats DEFINATELY 'nuff said
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You got whooshed, didn't you?
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December 28, 2002, 01:25
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You got whooshed, didn't you?
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December 28, 2002, 01:49
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I say Civ3 isn't the worst game out there but I say it ain't the best... and I tell ya 4 years ago civ2 was THE BEST GAME out there... that is what a lot of people expected from civ3 and failing to do so is complete failure for the perfectionist we are... and I might point out it was civ that had a huge role to play in making the perfectionist
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