Results of my first issue decision - Page 4

Dis · December 31, 2002, 22:47

I got that one. Being the type of goverment I am, I voted against goverment interference. I chose the third option.

The only effects might have been more civil rights- but probably not. I have an interesting blur in my description. It says a notoriously racist show is the #1 show in my nation.

. I just don't believe in the goverment regulating that sort of stuff.

General Ludd · January 1, 2003, 10:02

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

First meat, now this.....More and more mismanagement plagues Ubinia!

Mismanagement? Mismanagement? The Sovietskii Soyuz would talk to me about mismanagment!? I've never seen such a corrupt and backwards country as the Sovietskii Soyuz before!

If you think Ubinia is being mismanaged, I will take it as a compliment.

In other news:

I have recieved more complaints from the illegal corporations - now they're complaining about marijuana use making people un-productive and stealing from their vending machines, and want to make it illegal to use in public places.

I, of course, deny this! I'm not going to to help these despicable corporations control and opress my people!

Dis · January 1, 2003, 14:20

This may seem out of line for a libertarian. But I feel the company has the right to not have people smoking pot on their private property. Although unfortunately the response wasn't worded like that I believe. I think it was an all out ban- which I think hurt my civil rights. But property rights are a big part of my libertarian goverment. If the company owns the land, then they can dictate what happens on there.

Again my country is a best case scenario. We all know what would happen in real life if companies dictate what goes happens on their private property. But ideally my workers should have the pick of the litter. They can go to another company that has better rules if they don't like it.

ColdWizard · January 1, 2003, 14:30

i just allowed hospitals to pay for organ donations. wonder what changes that'll make

Drogue · January 1, 2003, 17:08

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Originally posted by Osweld
I took a little bit of a vacation, but have returned to settle the issues facing Ubinia...

1. The Police department proposes installing security cameras in public places - I refuse the proposal, I didn't even realise I had a police department, and I'm not about to let them spy on people.

I let them, as they said, in public, people see you anyway. I would rather have my people being safe, than have them unseen and injured. I put it to a plebiscite (as I had already decided, on my advisors recommendation) and they agreed I had made the right choice.

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Originally posted by Osweld
2. Divorce rates are on the rise - I decide to make same-sex marriages legal, which will make that statistic rise for those who care about it, and abolish the fascist laws regarding homosexuality at the same.

Nicely done, Akiria wholeheartedly commends your action.

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Originally posted by Osweld
3. Following a murder spree, a rival candidate has be gaining popularity off of people's emotions by campaigning for the death penalty - I, of course, will not stand for this manipulation of the people and will outlaw these sorts of politics, along with the death penalty.

Likewise, a well thought out (if slightly unexpected) decision. I do not agree with denying the people what they want, but I do not believe my people would have chosen the death penulty without much coertion and scare tactics by an opponent.

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4. Corporations ask to be able to donate money to political parties - The nerve! illegal corporations asking to be able to buy votes?

I refused this, ofcourse!

I agree, buying votes is very much against democracy IMHO. I just wish the founders of NS believed so.

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Originally posted by Osweld
5. Someone asked for the laws against nudity to be repealed - I decide to make nudity compulsory, clothes are oppresive - just like the corporate-culture that created them!

Seems a little drastic to me. You would force your people to do away with clothes? Even people who feel upset about their bodies? Surely that will cause much depression, and it seems you arfe talking the place of corporations in this matter, in that you're forcing them into an action they may not want. I urge you to reconsider.

Overall, Akiria supports the decisions of Ubinia. However, we feel that your position on nudity went to far, and though we realise it is your decision, we urge you to reconsider.

Drogue · January 1, 2003, 17:10

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

First meat, now this.....More and more mismanagement plagues Ubinia!

What is it you object to so strongly? Which decision was wrong? What would you have liked to have seen?

General Ludd · January 1, 2003, 17:16

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Originally posted by Drogue

Seems a little drastic to me. You would force your people to do away with clothes? Even people who feel upset about their bodies? Surely that will cause much depression, and it seems you arfe talking the place of corporations in this matter, in that you're forcing them into an action they may not want. I urge you to reconsider.

Precisely. Once we do away with clothes, and people get used to it, there will be no more of that nonsense.

I'm not oppresing my people by making nudity compulsory, I am freeing them from the confines of their clothes and the oppresive mentality that goes along with it.

((By the way, about the corporations buying votes, it makes sense that that would hamper political freedom, because true freedom would be the absence of any laws or regulations.))

aahz_capone · January 1, 2003, 19:23

!!!

I came back from the new years party totally wasted, an apparently dealt with an issue. I don't remember what and its already enforced: "same-sex marriages are increasingly popular". Now that sounds good, but what disturbs me was that I wasn't exactly in a sane state of mind when I read the issue. It could of been much worse! I could have outlawed pol freedom because I was drunk!

WARNING: DO NOT PLAY NS WHEN DRUNK

GeneralTacticus · January 1, 2003, 21:00

Or better yet, do not drink

aahz_capone · January 1, 2003, 22:06

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

ColdWizard · January 1, 2003, 22:27

my allowance of organ-selling made me slip to a Father Knows Best State

Method · January 2, 2003, 00:08

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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Or better yet, do not drink

pfft. you're beginning to sound like kass

Drogue · January 2, 2003, 09:05

Do not drink

Do not drink!!!!

What kind of madness is this!

What is this world turning to, an Australian condoning a lack of alcahol?!

Dis · January 3, 2003, 03:05

lol. my children are the most foul-mouthed of the region. I take that as a compliment.

The death penalty has been reintroduced, euthanasia is legal, the latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller, and Dissidents's children are widely acknowledged as the most foul-mouthed in the region. Crime is relatively low. Dissidents's national animal is the Wolf, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the dollar.

Dis · January 4, 2003, 04:57

I like this one because it mentions Apolyton- my region. Now who are the dictatorships in Apolyton?

The Issue
It's time for the government to allocate spending for the coming year, and as always, special interest groups are keen to have their say.

The Debate
"The state of the education system is, in many areas, simply frightful," says Teachers Union leader Pip Licorish. "And even where we are doing well, we could do better. I appeal to the authorities for a substantial boost in funding. Remember, the children are our future."
[Accept]

"We won't have a future unless we improve police numbers and rebuild the military," says General Dave King. "Oh, it's all well and good to have your fancy education and your nice cars, until some tinpot dictatorship decides to invade. And don't pretend like there aren't any of them in Apolyton. Our number one priority has to be security."
[Accept]

"Education is nice, but Health and Social Welfare are more important," says celebrity social worker Clint Dodinas. "This is where the people who really need government help are: the marginalized of our society. If we don't help them, what kind of a nation are we?"
[Accept]

"Hey, I've got a crazy idea," says noted libertarian and bird-watcher Buffy Falopian. "How about the government stops taking so much tax from people? Give us a tax cut and we'll buy the things we need ourselves. People need to be weaned off the government teat!"
[Accept]

aahz_capone · January 4, 2003, 07:13

I got exactly the same one. I went for edu. if the people have good education, then they won't be criminals so why need police, and they won't need welfare because they have jobs and as for cutting taxes, well to hell with that!

GeneralTacticus · January 4, 2003, 07:17

I got that one as well, and I went with education.

Dis · January 5, 2003, 04:26

I cut taxes. now mine down to 24%

Alex · January 5, 2003, 11:39

my first issue was about indicating a spiritual advisor to my nation, and I chose the guy who said that he would immediately resign if he would be appointed.

Drogue · January 5, 2003, 12:00

Nicely done Alex

Maniac · January 5, 2003, 14:29

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Jedinica Vrijstaat Decides:
Humans on the Dinner Table?

Government Acts
The Issue
In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Jedinica Vrijstaat's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that humans could be added to the menu.

The Debate
"The fact is, the human population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Colin McAlpin. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have human kebabs, human pies, human-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy."

This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.

"I agree that something needs to be done about human over-population," says random passer-by Fleur Christmas, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like normal."
[Accept]

"I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Buffy King. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The humans were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The human is part of what makes Jedinica Vrijstaat a great nation!"
[Accept]

Az · January 5, 2003, 14:58

so.... say... how do I get read of this annoying contraband cheese exports?

Dis · January 6, 2003, 04:02

OK I got the 8 year old kid gambling issue now.

I figure if they have the money, why can't they gamble?

. I said go ahead and let children gamble.

Dis · January 6, 2003, 04:05

check this one out. This is an interesting one. Just for the hell of it I chose #4. Put taxes on meat

. It is still a libertarain thing to do, and it will help my economy

. sucks to be poor though.

The increasingly militant Animal Liberation Front struck again last night, freeing dozens of chickens bound for delicious snack packs.

The Debate
"These nuts have got to be stopped," demands concerned consumer Al du Pont. "They need to face the fact people want snack packs, no matter how many innocent chickens must be sacrificed. Besides, chickens would do the same to us if they had the chance."
[Accept]

"These Liberationists are highlighting an important issue," pleads Jennifer McAlpin. "Too often, animals are put through needless cruelty, just to make their flesh taste a little more deliciously succulent. I'm sure we could ban the more horrific abuses without putting too much of a dent in our national obesity figures. Couldn't we?"
[Accept]

"Animals have feelings too!" yelled protestor Anne-Marie King, before being set upon by hungry passers-by. "Free the animals! Ban meat-eating!"
[Accept]

Economist Pip Falopian has an alternative. "You don't need to take away the people's right to choose. You just need to build the costs of animal suffering into the price. A tax on meat-eating, in proportion to the amount of cruelty involved, would do the trick. Plus think of the benefit for the national coffers! Of course, poor people wouldn't be able to afford meat, but that's just more incentive for them to get jobs."

Drogue · January 6, 2003, 10:00

I've tried 2 and 4 now. I want to be different each time I pick one, but I keep having the one on mining under the forest, 3 days running, so my economy's gone down (I won't allow it). Oh well, I might even have to let vote buying if this carries on

Az · January 6, 2003, 15:07

I've got the same ones, Diss.

I went with Al du Pont. Why deny the people meat?!

Drogue · January 6, 2003, 16:32

Well, you could allow the people meet but ban slaughtering animals in inhumane ways. I went with #2, Jenifer McAlpin, there is no reason to put animals through needless cruelty. Let the people have meet, but let the animals die as painlessly as possible.

Dis · January 7, 2003, 06:09

I chose a tax on meats. The effects seem to be just a blurb under my description that says only the rich can afford to eat meat.

So far I've been good on repeat issues. I have it on 2 issues a day, and have had only 1 issue come up twice (defense spending)

CapitanGarlic · January 7, 2003, 11:07

Same here -- 2 a day, only 1 repeat. Public nudity issue.

Kassiopeia · January 7, 2003, 12:03

2 a day as well, I'ven't had repetition, at least not enough to get annoying. Thrice or four times maybe.