Zoran desires trading partners - Page 3

ColdWizard · December 31, 2002, 02:16

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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
So, shall we say... five tons of enriched uranium? How much would you offer in return?

an equivalent value of cheese and polar bear meat (no fur, we need that to keep warm) as adjusted by the exchange rate of our currencies

my Minister of Telling Me Important Stuff, reports that we've found a valuable under our rainforest (rainforest in Eternal Cold!?

), but i'd not break a near-deal after this much negotiation, wouldn't be proper

AdamTG02 · December 31, 2002, 18:12

Zoran: The Democratic States of Admaria would be very interested in concluding a trade agreement. You mention that Automobilies are one of the items that you wish to gain through trade; luckily enough, Admaria has a thriving, if small, automobile industry. Furthermore, as a Left-leaning College State, Admaria has a high demand for books, your country's specialty. Would you be willing to sign an agreement eliminating tariffs on those two goods between our nations? Admaria awaits your reply.

GeneralTacticus · December 31, 2002, 22:19

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an equivalent value of cheese and polar bear meat (no fur, we need that to keep warm) as adjusted by the exchange rate of our currencies

How much would 250 000 goldpieces buy us? Our economists have computed that to be the value of 5 tons of enriched uranium.

H Tower · December 31, 2002, 23:24

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Originally posted by AdamTG02
Zoran: The Democratic States of Admaria would be very interested in concluding a trade agreement. You mention that Automobilies are one of the items that you wish to gain through trade; luckily enough, Admaria has a thriving, if small, automobile industry. Furthermore, as a Left-leaning College State, Admaria has a high demand for books, your country's specialty. Would you be willing to sign an agreement eliminating tariffs on those two goods between our nations? Admaria awaits your reply.

unfortunately, I have just recently promised to protect my small automobile industry because no one came forward willing to trade in autos. However, Zoran recognizes a fellow liberal state when it sees one and would be delighted to supply you with books at a highly reasonable rate.

Drogue · January 1, 2003, 16:28

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Originally posted by H Tower
I fear for the region, I established this thread to promote trade among nations, and it has turned into an arms bazaar and a place to make military alliances. The only alliance we will ever need is that of the entire region together! Let us not work against each other, we should work with each other!

We are working together. However, we are all individual states. This is not a demo game, since anybody can make and withdraw their nation from any alliance, project etc, and this is all RP. I agree, the whole region should be an alliance, but there are many differing views, as such, I believe we need a take it or leave it way of doing alliances. In that, if you want to, you can join/form an alliance, but if you do not want to, you have nothing forced upon you. We are trying to work with each other, however compromise is sometimes needed, which is why we have a court, to mediate and try to come to a good compromise when it comes to disagreements.

But blah, I'll shut up now, this is far too serious for the new year

ColdWizard · January 1, 2003, 22:30

Eternal Cold would be interested in a trade for beef, offering pizza in exchange (free delivery

)

GeneralTacticus · January 1, 2003, 22:35

The Centralis beef industry has been undergoing rapid growth recently, and has more than met the national requirements, so there is no longer any need to purchase polar bear meat; however, we are still quite prepared to do a deal on cheese.

Frozzy · January 2, 2003, 01:34

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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Blahdiblahdiblah... nothing to see here...
we are still quite prepared to do a deal on cheese.

Pasiphae offers 50 (fifty) 200 tonne blocks of cheddar cheese to Centralis

GeneralTacticus · January 2, 2003, 01:48

What would you like in exchange?

Frozzy · January 2, 2003, 15:32

Beef?

ColdWizard · January 2, 2003, 15:42

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
The Sovietskii Soyuz would like to order 24 Million frozen pizzas and in return will give 3/4 of all excess beef.

sounds ok to me

GeneralTacticus · January 2, 2003, 20:41

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Beef?

Ok then. Although our beef industry is suffering a severe recession due to lack of sales, perhaps this will bring them out.

AdamTG02 · January 3, 2003, 20:25

Drogue:

The Democratic States of Admaria would like to join your free trade agreement. We are a small but economically powerful nation with strong Automobile Manufacturing, Book Publishing, and Gambling industries.

If you are still accepting new contributors, we would also like to lend our strength to the Cure for Cancer project and the Pacifist Alliance. The Cure for Cancer, if it were achieved, would be an important breakthrough for human survival and well-being. The Pacifist Alliance, through holding to a position of not attacking first, may be the best way to effectively prevent war.

While Admaria has low tax rates and thus does not possess great amounts of government funds, we would be glad to invest what funds we do have toward this historic effort. Through the free trade agreement, our corporations may also become involved.

If you are willing to accept our participation in this great venture, we will be honored.

Drogue · January 4, 2003, 13:21

Of course Admaria is welcome, as are any other nations wishing to benefit from co-operation. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Giovanni Wine · January 4, 2003, 13:52

The Kingdom of Wine would like to enter in the Cure for Cancer project, proposed by Akiria.

The Kingdom of Wine scientist are working hard towards the goal of a solution for cancer, and the Kingdom is helping them by any means, even by allowing them to clone human for their research purposes.

However we feel that if our scientist can exchange their ideas with other scientist from other nationality, the all project will speed up considerably.

The Kingdom of Wine also would like to enter into the free trade agreement, as this will bring greater wealth to our people, and possibly will expand our car manufacturing market

Although the Kingdom of Wine do not want to enter into a military alliance with anybody, as this will threaten the Kingdom neutral foreign policy, and our status of Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Saluti

red_jon · January 4, 2003, 13:57

The scientists in the Federation of Redfern possess the freedom to clone humans for humanitarian research. We would also like to participate in the Cure for Cancer project.

Drogue · January 5, 2003, 09:48

Possibly they simply object to being forced into conditions, and see alliances as a reduction on their liberty? Redfern did not join the UN either, possibly for the same reason? The Commonwealth of Akiria is not prepared to force anybody, directly or indirectly, into an alliance they do not wish to participate in. We do not read anything into a nation's decision not to join, and suggest that others do not pressure them either.

red_jon · January 5, 2003, 13:35

I haven't seen the information on the alliance, I'll have a look. We recently joined the UN for a trial period, to see how it affects our liberties.

We have made it clear that we have no intention of war (and have been cutting back on military funding). The Soyuz seems obsessed witht he concept, which we find worrying...

Drogue · January 6, 2003, 10:15

By what measure does 20 Billion Ruble Soviets translate into 70 Billion Akiria Roses? As our economists will tell you, the measure (especially convoluted UN measure) of the economy does not dictate currency exchange (OOC: Japanese Yen for example, even at the height of the boom, were very cheap compared to the Dollar or the Pound, and the GBP is worth more than the USD, even though the US is a much, richer and more powerful bigger nation, economically).

Akiria is an enormous country, with massive buying power, yet we do not have 70 Billion Roses in circulation. We realised that we only needed the liquidity of 10 Billion, and therefore consolidated our currency into that amount, which is all backed by Gold Coins. To cut a long story short, 70 Billion Akiria Roses is worth enough Gold to buy much of Apolyton region. At domestic prices, 70 Billion Roses would buy every Akiria company in existence, or to the government, would be the budget for all our public services (some of the best in the world) for the next 100 years. In our experience, scientific ventures cost at the absolute most 100 Million Roses, which will provide for a team of 10000 research scientists, all with top of the range computing/research equipment, for 10 years.

Drogue · January 7, 2003, 05:08

OOC: Is that a real book or RPing? If real why? I know how currency markets work, and while the underlying state of the economy has a lot to do with movements in the market, because somebody has a weak economy does not mean they have a weak currency. Moreover, A country can have a both a very expensive currency, or a very cheap one, with both a strong and weak economy. /OOC

Giovanni Wine · January 7, 2003, 10:10

The Kingdom of Wine have recently contrbuted with 30 bilion drinks worth of various equipment and supplies of any kind, to the project.

We expect great results from this and we do not care how much it may cost.

(30 bilion drinks should worth about 10 bilion rubles according to my statistics) (OOC: I'm strong economy, the Sovietskii Soyuz are a Thriving economy)

Saluti

Drogue · January 7, 2003, 10:35

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
The Sovietskii Soyuz, in order to educate your uninformed population, has bout 50 Million copies of Currency Matters

Ah yes, I read that thread, and disregarded it. Akiria has not agreed to those terms of exchange, as it's currency is kept tied to the Gold Coin by the governments foreign currency reserves. This means we have a flat exchange rate to gold, the most common currency converter on the planet. If you wish to trade with us, it shall be at the exchange rate we have floated at. Any other exchange rate would not go through the currency market, and as such would be seen as a 'backhand deal'. We would like to avoid this.

Due to our currency consolidation (and so we don't go haywire and start going like the Lira or Russian Ruble), one Akiria Rose is valued at 5 Gold Coins (it was valued at 0.5, but it was a 10 for 1 consolidation). This is non-negociable, as it is a fixed exchange rate, so if you feel like George $oros (that you can sell enough to force our rate down) then just try it

H Tower · January 7, 2003, 15:58

If the nation of Akira will not agree to the regional exchange rate, then perhaps it should not be the regional delegate to the UN. How can you represent us if you don't do as we do?

Drogue · January 7, 2003, 18:36

Why does my trade, or currency exchange, have any bearing on my ability to represent you as Delegate, and vote as you would wish? I can represent you without trading at all, as some have banned Capitalism. Moreover, most countries outside Apolyton do not use that exchange rate model, so we would be stifling our exports considerably if we were to use it. I have a trade agreement with the ISS, and that is in Gold Coins, as are many other defense contracts I have. It would wreck my economy to suddenly pull out of those contracts. I prefer the stability of Gold, since my exchange rate under that system would fluctuate dramatically. And as mentioned above, the Sovietskii Soyuz believe that they have 10 Billion Ruble-Soviets, for a scientific venture, which under your system, would be enough money in Akiria Roses to buy Akiria. Quite simply, that amount of money does not exist in Akiria. It is the equivalent, on Earth, of having Russia able to buy China.

If we start to use that system, we will be creating our own market, that cannot trade with the outside world. The world uses a floating currency market, rather than one which depends upon your economic state.

GeneralTacticus · January 14, 2003, 08:22

*BUMP*

Giovanni Wine · January 14, 2003, 10:53

To: Akiria

The great forests of the Kingdom of Wine seems to be suffering from a totally (to us) unknown virus, and we are forced to chop down the trees that are sick in order to not let the disease spread.

Since it looks like your forests are between the healthiest in Apolyton we would like to ask for your technical help, if you could send some scientist down here so that they will help us in fighting off the epidemy We will be forever in debt with you.

Saluti
King Giovanni Bennati da Moncalieri
Minister for the Enviroment: Marquis Giacomo Lione da Vicoforte

Sheep · January 15, 2003, 03:50

The Holy Empire of Sheepsta, would like to open embassies in every nation in the Apolyton region.

Drogue · January 15, 2003, 10:11

Giovanni, Leader of Wine: Akiria will gladly send our environmental advisor, Lady Deirdre, to help with the out break. Our entire scientiffic research program is at your disposal, and is able to be connected to through you current IT systems.

If you wish, we can send a shipment of White Pine and Great Oak seedlings, to help restart your forests. Akiria is extremely happy at your committment to the environment, and will help in any way we can. I hope we can stop this virus.

swc200 · January 15, 2003, 12:40

The Dominion of Nobodz would like to join both the Free Trade agreement and the Pacifist Alliance and contribute to the Cure for Cancer project.

The top 3 industries in our small nation are the Furniture Restoration, Arms Manufactoring and Gambling industries.

We hope that joining these 3 ventures will help promote peace and stability throughout the Apolyton region. And in case these do not, we have also apply for membership in the Organisation for Defense of Sovereign Nations.

ColdWizard · January 22, 2003, 17:58

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Originally posted by Drogue
We have defensive arms, that we are perfectly willing to supply to anyone, and the Uranium would be very useful. What weaponry are you interested in? We have the CND-1 Orbital Defense Matrix, EMP-112 anti-electronic device...

Eternal Cold is interested in an Orbital Defense Matrix and perhaps some EMP-112s as well. We have ample supplies of soda available for trade