How good is Europa Universalis? - Page 2

mactbone · January 13, 2003, 20:59

I tried getting into the Allies, but they won't take me and I'm trying to be a nice Finland and not support the Nazis.

Are there any other smaller sized countries that would be involved in the war? I'd rather not be Spain, or any of the countries that get rolled over by the Nazis. Maybe Greece, or some other Eastern European country?

I also thought about being Canada, but I didn't want to be part of the Commonwealth.

Oerdin · January 14, 2003, 02:39

I'm a fan of alternative history so I like to play a Brazil who conquors all of south America and then joins the Axis and helps to invade the U.S.. In real life this could never have happened but in HOI it's pretty easy to arrange.

Also the reason they wouldn't let you join the allies is your political pyramid has to look like the other alliance members or they will reject you. During election time just keep moving your country towards Demacracy and away from facism & communism and they'll accept you in no time.

Oerdin · January 14, 2003, 02:42

You could try being hungery or Rumania if you wanted to play a smaller axis power. The communist Chinese state is difficult to play but great if you want to be paert of the comminturn. Any of the other states make a good choice for allied powers. Sweden is always fun as a neutral.

mactbone · January 14, 2003, 10:40

Hmm, maybe Brazil would be a cool choice, or Mexico. Then I could pick which alliance I want to join.

Sten Sture · January 14, 2003, 21:08

How bad is the AI? I have heard reports that it is worse than the original CivII AI, and if it is that bad I'm wondering if I will like EU2. I doubt if I will play it PBEM or MP (if it even has the feature) so I am debating still.

Dauphin · January 14, 2003, 22:28

The AI honours alliances and actually sends troops to help. That alone makes it better than CivII's AI IMHO.

Proteus_MST · January 19, 2003, 12:52

Jep, the AI of EU 2 is the only AI I really trust

St Leo · January 19, 2003, 15:39

But I want a map editor...

But I want a system that could run that map editor.

Heresson · January 21, 2003, 11:28

Right

Oerdin · January 21, 2003, 12:53

The Ai ok but nothing to write home about. Yes, it sends troops and onors allainces. It also masses forces and attacks with combined arms but I've noticed the Ai to inexplicably open up holes in its line of defense for no apparent reason. As the Germans I didn't mind see the Soviets leave proviences unoccupied but it does cost me some replay enjoyment.

Still the MP is very stable so a human player is just a hop-skip-jump away.

Carolus_Rex · January 21, 2003, 18:04

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Originally posted by St Leo
But I want a map editor...

But I want a system that could run that map editor.

Heh, break into Paradox Towers and steal it.

Jon Shafer · January 21, 2003, 21:15

Map editor...

Good luck, I don't think you'll ever see that from Paradox.

I heard it took 2 days to compile the map when they brought in 3 extra computers to help process it.

Heresson · January 23, 2003, 12:32

AI isn't very wise. For example; little, 1-province states often have great armies, up t0 75... And what do they do if they are at war with me? Put all this army at one of my numberous provinces to bleed itself out, and their allies often come and "help" them there...

DarkCloud · January 28, 2003, 23:49

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I heard it took 2 days to compile the map when they brought in 3 extra computers to help process it.

Yeah... sure... even if that happened- then how come for EU1 a 3rd party person managed to develop a map-generator for EU1

Mordoch · January 29, 2003, 00:43

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Originally posted by DarkCloud

Yeah... sure... even if that happened- then how come for EU1 a 3rd party person managed to develop a map-generator for EU1

The "Map Generator" merely altered the names and resources of provinces, it did not alter the map or art itself. I have heard that loading the map editor on a computer requires somewhere in the vicinity of 2 GB of ram.

Grumbold · January 29, 2003, 10:41

Yeah the only thing those Paradox guys flinch from is making map changes.

Dr Jekyll · February 1, 2003, 09:51

EU is an excellent game, EU2 is even better thanks to the ability to change your national policy (COMPLETELY changes the game). It's more historically accurate than the Civs (real world map, changing leaders, correct placement of countries and cultures etc.) and IMO that makes it more enjoyable - I'm not a big fan of Civilization, though, so you might not want to listen to me

It's at least as good as SMAC, though, and coming from me that's a lot.

Chronus · February 24, 2003, 16:56

Well, Lord Davinator, have you come to a conclusion about EU2?

I have EU and think it's okay. I would like to enjoy EU2 but I'm afraid of buying it. The problem I have with EU is that I'm a bit too much of a peaceful player. If you're not at war, the game can be pretty boring IMOHO.

Anyway, I may still buy EU2 when the price comes down but was wondering what your thoughts were on it.

Tuberski · February 24, 2003, 22:37

I thought EU 2 was rather boring. There is a lot of time where nothing happens. Wars are concluded unsatisfactorily for me.

Technology? You go from tech 1 to tech 2. What's the difference? None. except that you are a little closer to a technology that does make a difference.

But, I should have played more.

ACK!

Heresson · February 26, 2003, 13:10

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correct placement of countries and cultures etc

Amesjustin · March 4, 2003, 22:37

Don't ban me moderaters

but I downloaded EU2 from a certain file-sharing program and it is REALLY slow even from the get-go. I am using a PII 450 with 320 MB Ram. Is this normal for the game itself or do I have some jacked-up version? If this is the case I will just go buy it cuz it does look good, and everyone who has played it seems to love it.

Nikolai · March 15, 2003, 10:58

With such a bad computer, you can't hope for any better performance even if you buy the game. But of course, you should!

The game is not recognized by it's good graphics, but it's very thirsty for computer power because of the complex game it is.

Lots of lots of information to calculate!

ravagon · March 17, 2003, 01:39

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Originally posted by Amesjustin
Don't ban me moderaters

but I downloaded EU2 from a certain file-sharing program and it is REALLY slow even from the get-go. I am using a PII 450 with 320 MB Ram. Is this normal for the game itself or do I have some jacked-up version? If this is the case I will just go buy it cuz it does look good, and everyone who has played it seems to love it.

Those specs you're quoting sound a bit higher than the min reqs for EU2 (P2 300MHz or somesuch IIRC?) ...

In any case I wouldn't make a judgement about performance issues based on a warez version. These are often badly put together, buggy and prone to crash often and at inopportune moments.

EU2 itself is well put together, extremely well supported and a pretty good strategy game overall. If you appreciate the historical aspect and don't mind the lack of a random map capability (my only (slight) gripe) then it becomes very good indeed.

Nikolai · March 17, 2003, 02:20

The minimum specs is P2 266 MHz, but I promise you, you don't want to use such a machine...

I've used much better ones, and the longer you play, the more need for a good mashine you get. The PC has much to think about.