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Old January 6, 2003, 23:31   #61
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Originally posted by Tajanus I'm currently reading: "Bored of the Rings" a parody on ****
frodo becomes frito and guess what bilbo's name is
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Man, I read that a long time ago

ACK!
I loaned out my copy so long ago, I have no idea where it went. Still, it's a great book! My favorite part, when the Fellowship is attacked by the gigantic thesaurus with wide lapels and long, dangling participles.
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Graag, that's quite different from my translation.
When I bought it, I browsed three different translations before choosing one. They were all incredibly different. I think that it is inevitable that this book will be difficult to translate.
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Bored Of the Rings is such utter ****. It reminds me of the very, absolute worst of Mad magazine, the utter tripe of it. It's pathetically infantile.
The same goes for Good Omens, but I'm more mad at Good Omens because they are two good writers: they should have known better!
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MattyBoy, yup. I've looked at something like 7 or 8 paperback forms of the Tao Te Ching, but I haven't bought any of them as I find Mr Merel's the most poetic.

http://uweb.superlink.net/~fsu/tao2.html
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I just started reading Saul Bellow's Collected Stories.
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Re-reading Mist Of Avalon.
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I also fail to understand how anyone, on any kind of drug, could ever find Garfield funny.
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I also fail to understand how anyone, on any kind of drug, could ever find Garfield funny.
What? What! What? With the cat.... and he's fat... are you mad?!?!
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Bram Stoker's Dracula. Well, not actually reading it per se, just kinda looking at page 152 for the last year.
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What? What! What? With the cat.... and he's fat... are you mad?!?!
Ahh yes banana boy! But you forgot to mention his love of Lasagna Besides I love it when he lets Odie have it.
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I guess I am still reading the Iluminatis Trilogy, Grimms book of Fairy Tales, Colume 2 of the Masters of Sceince Fiction and Fantasy (or whatever they are called), and a few other books

not sure if I will finish the collections right now (I really shoudl finish the Iluminatus trilogy right now, but I am not longer in the mood for it, we will see)

I will probably be hitting the library soon, where upon I will enter my reading mode and read 2-3 400 page novels a day

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Oh, I also will read the new Wheel of Time book (maybe I will reread the series for the 17th or so time also)

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GArfield was funny at first

but for the last 10 years (or more) it has mostly just been more of the same

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Weird, I have that one too. 'Course I bought it by mistake. I meant to pick up Vol. 1 on the rise of the Rothschild & didn't notice I had Vol. 2 until I got home. Is Vol. 2 any good?
I'm halfway through; they're both great, although it's useful to make notes while reading II on which 3rd and 4th Rothschild generation member is who. Much easier to place Nathan Mayer, James, Salomon, Amschel and Carl in their respective cities

But buy vol. I and read it first.

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Interesting, I used to read it religiously (pun), and decided to dig it up again a couple of days ago. I love that sh*t!

41. Taoism
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When the strong learn Tao, they practice it diligently;
When the average learn Tao, they practice it sometimes;
When the weak learn Tao, they laugh out loud;
Those who do not laugh do not learn at all.

Therefore it is said:
Who understands Tao seems foolish;
Who progresses in Tao seems to fail;
Who follows Tao seems to wander.

So the greatest force appears vulnerable;
The brightest truth appears coloured;
The richest character appears incomplete;
The strongest heart appears meek;
The most beautiful nature appears fickle;

So the square, perfected, has no corner;
Art, perfected, has no meaning;
Sex, perfected, has no climax;
Form, perfected, has no shape.

So Tao can not be sensed or known:
It transmits sensation and transcends knowledge.

Tao Te Ching (Interpolation by Peter A. Merel)
I've just started The book of Chuang Tze and I've got The book of Lieh Tze to read as well.
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I've just started The book of Chuang Tze and I've got The book of Lieh Tze to read as well.
What are these books you speak of?
My understanding is that the Tao Te Ching was (probably) written by Lao Tzu. If I remember correctly that Chuang Tze bloke wrote some more on the subject several centuries later... think I didn't like his stuff when I read it though. Bit convoluted.
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The book of Chuang Tze
Synopsis
A Chinese classic, the "Chuang Tzu" was written sometime in the 14th century BC, and consists of original teachings, stories, tales and jokes told by Master Chuang, as well as others which have coalesced round his name. It is considered second only to the "Tao Te Ching", but the two books coundn't be more different. Where the "Tao Te Ching" is distant and proverbial in style, the "Chuang Tze" buzzes with life and with insights, often with considerable humour behind them. "Chuang Tzu"'s development of what later became known as Taoism lies in his advocacy of change as fundamental to life, and of the desire to cling on to things as being the basic problem of suffering and fustration. His writing combines wisdom and wit, and does not present a case so much as engage in argument and debate with the reader

The book of Lieh Tzu
Reviewer: John Scott (bubastis@btinternet.com) from Ireland
Just about everyone knows about Lao-Tzu and his Tao Te Ching. Not so many know of Chuang-Tzu and his crazy wisdom. But fewer still seem to move on to the work of Lieh-Tzu. Written much later than the other works, it seems somehow less distant and an easier intro for the Western mind. While the tone has been described as darker, there's nevertheless a large helping of typically Taoist humour.

I'm ignorant of ancient Chinese, so I'm not really qualified to discuss the ability of the translator - but I do know that the result is easy to read, enjoyable, and seems to me to capture the spirit of the ol' wind-rider, Lieh-Tzu.

To those interested in what comes after Lao-Tzu and Chuang-Tzu, here is the answer - highly recommended!


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Sounds inaaresting, Stickyhands, but I'm happy with the Tao Te Ching for the moment
What do you think of the Chaung Tze book?
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Bored of the Rings, I agree with monlith. Crap. It's funny for the first few pages, but it just goes on with the same jokes over and over again. The last half of it made me laugh once.

But Good Omens? I thought that was fairly good. There were a lot of much cleverer jokes in there as well as the more childish stuff.
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MattyBoy, yup. I've looked at something like 7 or 8 paperback forms of the Tao Te Ching, but I haven't bought any of them as I find Mr Merel's the most poetic.
Thankyou. I will come back to that link from time to time.
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Sounds inaaresting, Stickyhands, but I'm happy with the Tao Te Ching for the moment
What do you think of the Chaung Tze book?
The first chapter isn't bedtime reading, too confusing with all the 'this is, which also is not' etc
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Bill the Cat might have something to say about that.

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Graag, thanks for the Merel tip off.
I am changing my footer as a tribute to it.
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Good Omens was better than Bored of the Rings, but then again my expectations for it were much higher as well. Remember that this is NEIL GAIMAN and TERRY PRATCHETT we're talking about here!
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Pleasure MattyBoy. Like the new sig, btw
I'm thinking of starting a Tao Te Ching thread at some point, I'd love to hear from other Taoists, and also some other people's opinions on the Tao Te Ching.
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