fungus towers below crawlers

Skanderbeg · December 5, 2000, 10:43

Sometimes when I got worm boils because of ecodamage, a embryonal fungus tower appears below a crawler, especially below crawlers working a borehole.
I can't move the crawler away from the fungus tower (because of the towers ZOC's?), and If I try to destroy the tower, I destroy both the fungus tower and my crawler.
Is this some sort of bug, and has someone solutions to save the crawler and kill the fungus tower?
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Googlie · December 5, 2000, 11:25

Move a former - or another unit - to a tile adjacent to the tower, then move your crawler on top of the former. You can then destroy the tower.

Also, if you find a huge tower, by clearing the surrounding tiles' and planting forests (or farms, I guess - I've only ever planted forests), the tower reduces in size for every adjacent terraformed tile until it's small enough to take out with a 1-1-1 scout.

Skanderbeg · December 6, 2000, 05:34

Thanks, Googlie, that's the solution!

MariOne · December 8, 2000, 09:46

Clearing fungus IS enough, I did it several times

Helium Pond · December 8, 2000, 17:51

Fungus will expand into forests, just like forests will expand into fungus. Funguses and forestses fightses. Not sure exactly how or why. I was trying to shrink a tower by planting forests all around it, and I had to do a couple patches twice, because the fungus grew over it.

I don't know about farms, either, but I do know that forests won't expand over them.

mark13 · December 8, 2000, 19:41

quote:

Originally posted by Helium Pond on 12-08-2000 04:51 PM
Fungus will expand into forests, just like forests will expand into fungus. Funguses and forestses fightses. Not sure exactly how or why. I was trying to shrink a tower by planting forests all around it, and I had to do a couple patches twice, because the fungus grew over it.

I don't know your exact situation, but it does say in the manual that a fungal tower can place a tile of fungus in any surrounding square. I assume this is a given percentage chance (Prima guide anyone?

), and can overrun present enhancements.

Googlie · December 8, 2000, 20:17

Unfortunately, Prima wrote their guide before any of the smac patches came out, so fungal towers weren't covered - you are stuck with the datalinks (or concepts.txt) for that.

MariOne · December 9, 2000, 08:35

I had forest patches covered by fungal tower expansion.
So they don't guarantee you to keep hold of the patches you cleared.

With XenoDome and 4 fungicidals, I could remove 1 fungus patch per turn (one couple moves, the other removes...).
You're blocking tf resources in the task, but you don't have to complete the task before the tower is soft enough to attempt attacking it. And after all if you want to use that land, you'd have to remove the fungus anyway.

mark13 · December 9, 2000, 10:58

You shouldn't need to remove fungus if you go with a decent-moraled empath chopper - the cash windfall of a large fungal tower is very nice indeed

Even a demon boil shouldn't be able to stand up to it, even without a positive planet rating....

Empath Chopper:
Psi: 3
Empath: +50%
Hardened: +12%
Total: 5.04

Demon Boil fungal tower:
Psi: 2
Elite: +50%
Fungal tower: +50%
Total: 4.50

If you want to increase the odds slightly, the morale can be taken a lot higher than hardened. But even so, the 70 credits are a nice bonus, even mid-game - and it saves you a lot of trouble with Fungicidal Formers.

MariOne · December 9, 2000, 14:34

I forgot to say that I did that math too, but my pseudo-casual generator must be rigged against FTs....

mark13 · December 9, 2000, 15:06

LOL, ain't that the truth - how are the battle odds calculated anyway? Is it just like dice-rolling, or is there some other element involved somewhere?

Ogie Oglethorpe · December 11, 2000, 17:32

Not that i'm a spelling genius by any stretch of the imagination but this

'fightses' just had me in stichses. I hope it was intentional.

Helium

a quick riddle

Do you know what the hobbit has in hiss pocketses? (keep it clean !)

Happy holidays

Og

Eidtted for spelling (whoops)
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mark13 · December 11, 2000, 17:47

ROTFL - I hadn't seen it before - only noticed it just now, and I quoted it!

I'm sure it was intentional, I can't imagine someone doing that inadvertantly...

quote:

Eidtted for spelling

Edit: extremely bad grammar

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Fitz · December 11, 2000, 20:03

quote:

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe on 12-11-2000 04:32 PM
Do you know what the hobbit has in hiss pocketses? (keep it clean !)

LOL, how about nothingssss? No, not nothingssss, so it musst be ssomethingsssssss.

ANSWER: The nassty little hobbitses has my preciouses.

Zonk · December 12, 2000, 04:43

I would suggest a spiell chekker.

Chowlett · December 12, 2000, 19:53

I've got a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Mistakes eye cannot sea.

I've run this poem threw it
I'm shore your pleas two no
Its letter-perfect in its weigh
My chequer tolled me sew!

Googlie · December 12, 2000, 20:14

nice one Chowlett

mark13 · December 14, 2000, 18:04

LOL, very impressive - I'm glad I checked this thread....