For all Fan of Moo-like!!

Mythox · October 23, 2002, 03:38

here is something new games for u that interessted me a lots and i thougth to share it with u

http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?id=232

its simply fantastic

vmxa1 · October 23, 2002, 03:58

GalCiv, if it ever gets done.

Urban Ranger · October 23, 2002, 07:30

Looks better than MoO 3 though, I am afraid

Spaced Cowboy · October 23, 2002, 09:11

I don't know about that Ranger, the screenies of MoO3 lately have been looking quite tasty.

Note that I'm not saying that GalCiv will be bad.

moomin · October 23, 2002, 12:03

I have very high hopes for GalCiv. The OS/2 version is the reason I still have an OS/2 partition around, after all.

Trifna · October 23, 2002, 12:21

From what I've seen, GalCiv is more "gamish" than MOO which enters more factors to approximate what a galactic empire should be, and tries to be the closer it can to a galactic simulation for players (thus the feeling of ruling, immersion, etc. but also a steeper learning curve). It's a little like comparing Civ3 to Age of Empires (but this case is more extreme). But I'd guess GalCiv, if it comes out (why not?) should bring new elements and pretty cool little game.

Personnally, I stil think I'll prefer MOO3. A little learning doesn't make me afraid when the reward is so great (strategy, etc.). Like StarCraft: complex to master, but after, so much possibilities and fun. And I always prefer immersion and coherence/realism.

Inverse Icarus · October 23, 2002, 12:24

yea, for a while i was getting galciv and moo3 mixed up (i thought there was one game), but since i saw MOO's Senate and Galciv's "United Planets", i sorted that out.

i honestly dont know which one is (or, will be) "better" , as i've never played any of the precursors of either game.

vmxa1 · October 23, 2002, 12:39

No one can know which will be better at this time. GalCiv has been under way for a very long time and has no publisher behind it, that makes it a bit shakey. Have you heard of Stars: SuperNova? Been in limbo for a very long time, I saw it at E3 about 5 years ago (the same one that had MM7 finished).

Lee Johnson · October 23, 2002, 14:16

I'm sure Stardock will publish GalCiv online, even if they don't pump boxes into stores right away.

Blade Runner · October 24, 2002, 07:29

GalCiv got publisher. Strategy First.

vmxa1 · October 24, 2002, 12:54

Cool, I see the logo now. Hope SSG gets one.

moomin · October 24, 2002, 19:15

Come to think of it, Poly could do a lot worse than to have a Brad Wardell interview. Markos, d'ya hear?

Straybow · October 24, 2002, 23:39

Pic #9: "The evil Drengin Empire have invaded Yggdradill! …Attacking troops 1.421 Bil …Defending troops 2.717 Bil" Ahhh, shades of the old VGA Planets roots of so many space 4X games.

C'mon, the ships required to transport 1.4 billion soldiers could bombard the planet with scrap to take it over. All these games make transporting whole planetary populations ridiculously easy.

Atragon · October 25, 2002, 01:42

So? What's so wrong about transporting billions of soldiers, if they've got the entire planetary military defending, and don't want to nuke it from orbit, what other option do they have?

moomin · October 25, 2002, 03:28

With SF tech to draw on? Infinite.

Harry Seldon · October 25, 2002, 08:34

This looks like a MOO3 clone with the Fallout 2 interface. Which could be good. From what I read, it looks like you can only be humans. If I got the game, I'd want to be that lizard-ape (Drengen?) in the last picture.

MariOne · October 25, 2002, 09:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Atragon
So? What's so wrong about transporting billions of soldiers, if they've got the entire planetary military defending, and don't want to nuke it from orbit, what other option do they have?

Hmmm...
did you see that sci-fi classic, "Invasion of the body snatchers"?

Sollos · October 26, 2002, 05:12

I've read about GalCiv and seen most every screenshot. I have to say Moo3 will be better, even though Strategy First does normally get behind good games.

moomin · October 26, 2002, 07:33

I feel tempted to take a bet. Still, let's not, lest Greek authorities clamp down on Markos for internet gambling...

Grumbold · October 26, 2002, 09:17

I'm hoping they will both be extremely good. That way we get to play 2 great games

vmxa1 · October 26, 2002, 13:34

Me too, I can not have too many good space 4x games.

Anguille2 · October 28, 2002, 08:55

Same for me

I am happy that they have enough different aspects to make them complementary. At the same time, they both have a lot of depth (Diplomacy, events, espionage).

this is cool.

All i need now, is 3 similar games with Star Trek (botf is still fun, but the ai isn't good enough), Star Wars (Rebellion looks awfull) and Babylon 5.
This would be heaven and i would never buy any other game...

vmxa1 · October 28, 2002, 13:02

Rebellion made me cry. I was not able to even get out of the tutorial phase. It was a very complex interface, the very thing that Moo3 was addressing by shrinking the number of screens needed to manage the game. I so wanted to like Rebellion and several of my friends tried it and gave it back. These were all gamers and all of us worked in the computers business as techers.

moomin · October 28, 2002, 14:31

I actually played rebellion quite a lot for a while. There was an absolutely brillant game somewhere in there, struggling unsuccessfully to get out from under what must be the most tragic gaming interface ever.

Any game that let's me boss Darth Vader around can't be all bad, though

Mr. Orange · October 28, 2002, 14:33

Ah Rebellion. Nothing more fun then capturing Coursacant and the Emperor or destroying the Rebel HQ and capturing Mon Motha, only to have to search the whole ####ing galaxy for Vader or Luke. Half the game was spent sending scout units and Chewbacca always got fragged on espionage missions.

Grumbold · October 28, 2002, 15:02

"You have not adequately supported me on my mission, and it has failed" - Emperor Palpatine

All too appropriate for the developers, I fear.

Mr. Orange · October 29, 2002, 11:10

Grumbold how did you remember that?

Grumbold · October 29, 2002, 12:08

Dusted it off not long ago in a fit of nostalgia. Then I rediscovered just how awful it was and uninstalled it again double quick.

Mr. Orange · October 29, 2002, 15:36

That line triggered me to think of (IIRC) Star Control for the Sega Genesis.

"Launch Fighters"
"Launch Fighters"
"Launch Fighters"
"Launch Fighters"

Saber Cherry · October 30, 2002, 01:18

I was just thinking about how cool a Star Control II mod for MOO3 would be. Unfortunately, I think they made it hard to mod, with odd art formats and such...

That would be pretty sweet, though, playing with all the SC2 races, and using their music for the diplomacy screens

And I bet the SC people over at classicgaming.com would be willing to put in the work...