Console Gamers... - Page 2

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:04

Sava, that guy is a total moron.

And so are you for actually reading it.

Sava · January 18, 2003, 20:05

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Sava, that guy is a total moron.

And so are you for actually reading it.

that last line applies to you Asher... PERFECTLY

biased *******s still love their Xbox despite the fact that everything out for the system is ****.

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:07

That's right, Sava.

Do you realize how stupid it is for ANYONE to make all-encompassing claims like 'everything out for the system is ****"? The guy was either intentionally writing a satire making fun of fanboys, or he's a total moron.

There are great games on all of the consoles, and on the PC... get over it.

Drake Tungsten · January 18, 2003, 20:10

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PS: Do you know what a gun is, Drake? Does it look like Spawn is holding a gun in that picture?

That's exactly why he doesn't fit into Soul Calibur, you genius. Spawn has always been a gun-toting character, but you can't use guns in SC2 because it's set in medieval times. So they give him an axe and call it good. It's glonky as hell, but what were they supposed to do with a console that has no marquee characters?

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:13

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That's exactly why he doesn't fit into Soul Calibur, you genius. Spawn has always been a gun-toting character, but you can't use guns in SC2 because it's set in medieval times.

By this logic, Link doesn't belong in SC2 because it ain't in Hyrule.

Jesus Drake, the point was Link is a cutesy Nintendo character with bright colors and looks like Peter Pan.

Soul Caliber isn't a cutesy Nintendo game, it's a gloomy fighting game.

Spawn clearly fits better than Link.

Further, Link isn't even close to being "cool", and Spawn isn't even close to being "totally gay". The kid who looks like Peter Pan is considerably more gay than Spawn.

Sava · January 18, 2003, 20:13

Asher, I love how pissed off you get when I make fun of Windows or consoles. You'd think I called your mom a name or something

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:15

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Asher, I love how pissed off you get when I make fun of Windows or consoles. You'd think I called your mom a name or something

I'm not pissed off, I'm bored and calling you an idiot.

Why would I miss a chance to do that?

Everyone sees through your act...

Sava · January 18, 2003, 20:17

bah, you presume I actually put thought and effort into my trolling to call it an act

you'd probably like me in real life...

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:19

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bah, you presume I actually put thought and effort into my trolling to call it an act

I actually presume you don't put thought into anything...

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you'd probably like me in real life...

I very much doubt it.

Sava · January 18, 2003, 20:21

Drake Tungsten · January 18, 2003, 20:27

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By this logic, Link doesn't belong in SC2 because it ain't in Hyrule.

Hyrule's a land based on medieval earth...

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Soul Caliber isn't a cutesy Nintendo game, it's a gloomy fighting game.

Have you ever even played a Zelda game? They're quite gloomy at times...

But why am I even arguing with you? You're a hopeless Xbox fanboy. I'd have a better chance of getting Sava to admit he loves capitalism...

Sava · January 18, 2003, 20:30

I love capitalism.... just in consumer goods and not health care, education, and energy production.

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:31

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Hyrule's a land based on medieval earth...

What difference does this make?

Is SC2 set in Hyrule or not?

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Have you ever even played a Zelda game? They're quite gloomy at times...

Yeah, look at the art style for The Wind Waker. GLOOMY!

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But why am I even arguing with you? You're a hopeless Xbox fanboy.

Xbox fanboy who owns an Xbox and a Gamecube.

That's a very interesting argument, but it's a cop-out.

I don't think a cutesy Zelda character is more suitable than a Spawn character.

YOU'RE the one who called SPAWN "totally gay". Don't be calling me a fanboy when it's clear what you are.

Which consoles do you own again?

Sava · January 18, 2003, 20:31

The new Zelda is sh!t... Nintendo ruined its great titles by making them into 3d crapfests. Metroid might have potential, but I'm not about to spend 150 bucks on a Gamecube to find out.

Drake Tungsten · January 18, 2003, 20:37

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I love capitalism.... just in consumer goods and not health care, education, and energy production.

See? I was right!

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Yeah, look at the art style for The Wind Waker. GLOOMY!

Yes, the art style automatically determines how melancholy the plot will be...

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YOU'RE the one who called SPAWN "totally gay". Don't be calling me a fanboy when it's clear what you are.

Someone who thinks Spawn is lame? I don't think I'm the only one...

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Which consoles do you own again?

Dreamcast, Gamecube, and PS2 out of the current generation.

ixnay · January 18, 2003, 20:37

This is getting ridiculous, much like every console debate that crops up here. And since you seem to be arguing over how gay certain characters are, I'm sure one of you guys can use this:

Kingof the Apes · January 18, 2003, 20:38

I own a Gamecube and frequently play my friends PS2.

IMHO, Xbox does suck, compared to PS2. Gamecube, though not having as many features, also has great games, such as Metroid and Zelda.

Drake Tungsten · January 18, 2003, 20:42

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This is getting ridiculous

I agree and I think I'll be leaving this stupid debate. I'd like to think that I'm better than this, but I'm not so sure...

Asher · January 18, 2003, 20:54

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IMHO, Xbox does suck, compared to PS2. Gamecube, though not having as many features, also has great games, such as Metroid and Zelda.

Lord knows the Xbox has no good games.

Excellent logic.

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Someone who thinks Spawn is lame? I don't think I'm the only one...

Ah, that's right. Spawn is lame, Link is cool. Silly me, I was thinking the Peter Pan ripoff would be the lame one in a competition.

Sarxis · January 18, 2003, 21:12

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Same as Asher. And since MoO3 isn't going to have PBEM, it'll be awhile before I buy another PC game.

So, it is true then. I have my doubts now if I'll even buy MoO3. Not because of the cuts in features, or even the now aggravating delays, but PBEM IS A CORNERSTONE OF GODDAMNED TBS GAMES MOFOS.

mactbone · January 18, 2003, 21:28

I own a PS2 and an X-Box and they're both prety damn good. I've been playing GTA: Vice City and Halo - both great games.

Consoles are great for playing with buddies (not internet buddies, but real life people you know). The only game we played in my dorm on the PC (wth each other) was AoK otherwise we played Soul Calibur, Goldeneye, Halo, Madden, NCAA Football and DDR (well we only played the last one once, but these guys had the pad and everything).

Personally, I like consoles for sport games, single-player FPS (I learned with consoles first and my left hand sucks at tons of commands) and RPGs. Basically anything that requires lots of thinking or stats is better for PC.

mactbone · January 18, 2003, 22:00

Oh yeah, forgot my Spawn pic from their website

Zero · January 18, 2003, 23:48

DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS SO MANY PEOPLE WHO KNEW WHAT SCII WAS!

What a relief. If by ANY CHANCE the console versions get internet play... I would LOVE to play agst poly people.

I am getting the PS2 Version btw. I just purchased PS2 for $60 yesterday, so that I can get a mod chip to play import version as soon as it comes out on march 27th. This is gonna be 1999 all over again when I spent nearly $600 on import DC with import SC I...

but this time I got PS2 Cheap hee hee

Alinestra Covelia · January 19, 2003, 01:38

I have been an avid Nintendo fan since before I was born. I love all the Mario games, with Mario 64 and Mario 3 (for NES) being my favorite. Every single iteration of Metroid has been fabulous as well, and I had great fun with the Zeldas.

On the PC, the games that excel and which I like are slightly different. TBSes and RPGs are, for me, best on PC. FPSes are also largely unrivalled (although console games have a very slight edge in multiplayer accessibility). Finally, I like to play LucasArts' space flight sims, which I feel have never been equalled on any console ever.

I have played Sony and Sega consoles before but never owned them. I trust Nintendo consoles simply through force of habit and my own experience, but it doesn't mean that I slavishly follow one brand name. Oftentimes me and my friends will strategically buy systems so there's little overlap and we can all borrow each others' stuff to enjoy.

I think a lot of people put too much emphasis on image rather than gameplay. It's not "cool" to play with Legos and Speak'n'Spells and Construx and chess, but all these games were invaluable to me during my youth. Without them, I wouldn't be the person I am today. (And my spelling and 3D perception probably would have suffered too.)

I play a game because I enjoy it, not because it's "cool". If I find myself disliking a game just because somebody else says it isn't fashionable, I'm probably missing the whole point of gaming.

Drake Tungsten · January 19, 2003, 01:56

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I play a game because I enjoy it, not because it's "cool".

Well said. I get a little sick of people complaining about Nintendo games being "kiddy", as if that's a valid problem. Fun has no age limit...

Zero · January 19, 2003, 02:21

AC, whos that gal on the avatar?

Drake, agree

And let em say for the 8932374098^90834223th time....

SOUL CALIBUR II YEEEEEEHAWWWW!

Asher told me it might not be possible, but if SCII for xbox has xbox live support, i might just hav an orgasm....

Drake Tungsten · January 19, 2003, 02:23

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Asher told me it might not be possible, but if SCII for xbox has xbox live support, i might just hav an orgasm....

I would almost guarantee that it isn't possible. Any sort of lag time makes a fighting game unplayable and even broadband isn't lag-free yet...

Asher · January 19, 2003, 02:27

It's possible to do fighting games.

Capcom vs SNK 2 EO is online with Xbox Live and you seriously can't tell that you're playing online, aside from the guy talking to you.

There's no lag.

I'd doubt SC2 has Xbox Live support because it takes a lot of effort to add in multiplayer for a game, and the lead development platform is the Gamecube which essentially has no multiplayer component to speak of.

It's very unlikely that there will be any extra features on the PS2 and Xbox versions not on the Gamecube version. And it's very unlikely for them to put multiplayer in the Gamecube version...

Asher · January 19, 2003, 02:32

Here's a hands-on from IGN for it:
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/382/382970p1.html

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Getting online with Capcom VS SNK 2 EO is incredibly easy. After logging in, you get the standard list of options found in other Live games, including quick match, optimatch, friends, and rankings. What's really cool about the rankings is that you can see rankings for the past week or month, as well as total and friends rankings. We'd like to see this sort of rankings list implemented in more Live games (wink, wink). Another great option is the ability to play anyone around the world, not just the US. Everyone knows that there are some truly magnificent Street Fighter players around the world, especially Japan, and now we'll have the chance to see how we stack up against them.

So the options are there, but how is the gameplay? Well, after connecting to another player the game will display a message about your connection. We consistently received a "good" connection, and while we were playing there was no lag at all. Not even a little. We may as well have been playing against a CPU opponent the lag was so unnoticeable. Whether this is a good representation of what real-world games will be like is unknown (we were on a developer network, not Xbox Live), but if it is, then the future of online fighting games is exceptionally bright.

It won't make a difference about being on a developer network, since a 2-player fighting game is obviously peer-to-peer after Xbox Live acts as the matchmaker.

Drake Tungsten · January 19, 2003, 02:36

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Whether this is a good representation of what real-world games will be like is unknown

I'll believe when I see it...