Anyone for Iron Curtain PBEM? - Page 9

EmuGod · April 12, 2003, 14:06

The US did nothing! It joined the Non-intervention policy of the League of Nations and let Spain hang. The loss of the men was not our fault, it was yours for not carrying out the inspections and enforcing the treaty you signed in 1918. You were the ones who let Germany re-arm and fight and thanks to you the world lost millions. President Kennedy planned an invasion of North Vietnam long before there was any problems yet you chose to intervene. That does not give you the right to firebomb innocent civilians. You are the ones who still live in a segregated society, and you say the USSR tortures its civilians? You have racial discrimination, de jury in your south and de facto in your north and you say we are bad. Before China became the PRC, millions of Chinese died of malnurition, something that is almost gone now. Before the Warsaw Pact, Germany inflicited massive damage on Europe. We bore the brunt of their blow. Britain and France may have declared war in 1939, but they sat on their asses and let Hitler re-arm Germany. We tried to help Spain but we could not without aid. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was an attempt to buy time for us to prepare for the German invasion which we knew was inevitable. We fought the Germans since June 1940, while it took you until December of 1941 to be dragged into it and you say you declared war first? You have always cared about nothing but your own petty economic and strategic gains. Peoples lives in Latin America mean nothing to you and the world sees this.

FiGu · April 12, 2003, 15:22

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We fought the Germans since June 1940

Well, you didnt fought them already in 1940 it was first June 1941. but we gave the allies all the time supplies and weapons.

Ok, Peace now!

im not willing to fight a war just because of this.

tanelorn · April 12, 2003, 19:18

It's PRC's turn. Guess he's planning for something big, down under...

Iron Chancellor · April 12, 2003, 23:26

Hmm, not to throw gasoline on a fire, but...
Admit it, Stalin was very surprised by Hitler's attacks. It is well documented, though to give names would incriminate several of our sources. And what gives you the right to "purge" anyone? Really, if you are a worker's paradise, how can you force everyone to believe your ideas and punish them if they do not. As much as you would like, the KGB is not the Ministry of Love.

I wonder how many Muslims who cannot practice their religion and Lithuanians, Ukrainians, and Caucasions would say they feel tolerated by a regime that forces them to abandon traditions and their own religions and governments for atheistic socialism, stealing land that these people have farmed on their own for centuries.

Enough said, I do not wish to antagonize my new neighbor, but merely to point out some of his logical fallacies.

EmuGod · April 13, 2003, 13:22

Was Ceteram the PRC because he's disappeared....

Iron Chancellor · April 13, 2003, 14:59

yes, he was

Choke · April 13, 2003, 16:32

I would like to be the PRC

Iron Chancellor · April 13, 2003, 18:35

All in favor say aye!

Aye

EmuGod · April 15, 2003, 17:38

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Originally posted by Iron Chancellor
Hmm, not to throw gasoline on a fire, but...
Admit it, Stalin was very surprised by Hitler's attacks. It is well documented, though to give names would incriminate several of our sources. And what gives you the right to "purge" anyone? Really, if you are a worker's paradise, how can you force everyone to believe your ideas and punish them if they do not. As much as you would like, the KGB is not the Ministry of Love.

I wonder how many Muslims who cannot practice their religion and Lithuanians, Ukrainians, and Caucasions would say they feel tolerated by a regime that forces them to abandon traditions and their own religions and governments for atheistic socialism, stealing land that these people have farmed on their own for centuries.

Enough said, I do not wish to antagonize my new neighbor, but merely to point out some of his logical fallacies.

What gave the Americans the right to push the natives off their homeland which was theirs for century and push them onto reserves and then starve them into submission? What gave the Americans the right to create a melting pot society where all the immigrants would blend into an American society where patriotism and being American comes before any other identity? How is that a paradise and the ideal country to live in?

Iron Chancellor · April 15, 2003, 18:58

I'll let America answer that. But why are you defending nationalist sentiments? Should communism be a melting pot for all workers? ;-)

Choke · April 15, 2003, 19:59

Ok, how about everyone shuts the hell up about Stalin and Indians, etc, ad nauseum and decides whether I can play the PRC or not! And if I AM the PRC then I promise to not engage in the sort of BS that has been flying around on this thread!

Iron Chancellor · April 15, 2003, 20:38

I second that motion. Seeing as all other nations are present and accounted for, I blatantly have decided to be the voice of reason. Play the PRC turn so we can get on with our game.

Iron Chancellor · April 15, 2003, 20:41

Wait, D--n it, Tanelorn hasn't played for the Mid-East. I'll PM him.

tanelorn · April 16, 2003, 05:19

The order of play is:
USSR -
USA -
NATO -
China -
Non-Alligned Countries -
SEATO -
Arab League -
Nato was the last to play.
Which means it is Choke's turn now, then you, then me after that.

Iron Chancellor · April 16, 2003, 07:01

Sorry, it's been a while...

EmuGod · April 16, 2003, 09:47

You mean I have to ally with Choke???? This is going to be confusing, as he's NATO and I'm the USSR in the CFC Iron Curtain....

Iron Chancellor · April 16, 2003, 10:44

I don't care how confusing it is as long as we actually get to play sometime.

Choke · April 16, 2003, 16:08

Ok, I'm going to play China, post my turn in the next couple days as I need to talk to everyone and figure out what's going on.

FiGu · May 5, 2003, 09:11

A great bump

Choke · May 5, 2003, 16:13

Whoops...I thought I had posted my turn...

Choke · May 5, 2003, 16:24

Cease-fire in Vietnam continues, Premier Chou En-Lai seizes power, demands Anglo-American imperialists leave South Vietnam, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

tanelorn · May 5, 2003, 16:42

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Originally posted by Choke
Whoops...I thought I had posted my turn...

What are you trying to do, China? Choke us to death with laughter?

(That's what I call a weapon of mass destruction:b)
Greetings, president

Iron Chancellor · May 5, 2003, 22:27

At a high ranked summit meeting today, the Prime Minister of Australia and Executive Secretary of the South East Asia Treaty Organization, Robert Chancellor, announced:

"We will not yield to the Chinese demands. SEATO has stood for and will continue to stand for democracies in the Pacific Region. Should the Red Chinese military attempt to destroy the democratic governments located here, it will find the world arrayed against it."

Iron Chancellor · May 5, 2003, 22:52

Two Chinese submarines were destroyed by SEATO air and sea forces. No friendly loses were reported by the SEATO High Command.

Anger in Afghanistan

While withdrawing an armored division from around Kabul, the local SEATO commander was asked by the local Soviet commander to meet with him. The SEATO commander declined, and a small arms fire battle ensued; greater loss of life only prevented by a timely withdrawal.

The SEATO High Command wishes for detente with both China and the USSR, and offers both the chance to meet next month in Sydney, or in their respective capitols.

Rah rah capitalism and democracy!

Choke · May 6, 2003, 00:10

China didn't demand anything of SEATO...and now it seems you've launched an attack so China and SEATO are at war.

Iron Chancellor · May 6, 2003, 13:10

Read the last few pages...there's been a bit of an international incident between our nations stemming from the cease-fire in Vietnam.

For the record, your predecessor was the aggressor.

jim panse · May 6, 2003, 17:27

NATO chairman informs the Chinese government that NATO will not stand aside when our friends and allies are attacked .....

tanelorn · May 6, 2003, 18:58

All is peacefull in muslim lands...
Peace to you all.
It's now time for the Soviets.

FiGu · May 7, 2003, 10:01

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Cease-fire in Vietnam continues, Premier Chou En-Lai seizes power, demands Anglo-American imperialists leave South Vietnam, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

The US goverment will never leave its allies behind!

EmuGod · May 10, 2003, 11:11

Cuban paratroopers, unable to stand idly by as the Mexican airforce and navy destroy Haiti, paradropped into Santo Domingo this month. The USSR, backing up Cuba, wishes to assure the United States and NATO that this was purely a pecekeeping operation and that the battered city poses no threat to the United States of America. Several rebels continue to remain in the southwest of Haiti however they will not last long. If the United States still has concerns over Haiti, the Soviet Union will be happy to host a summit of negotiations for a permanent agreement to ensure the stabilization of that island.

The USSR also calls for continued negotiations in South East Asia. Our destroyer off the coast of Hainan is there to help in negotiations and to act asa buffer zone between the ships in the area. We request that the SEATO destroyer in Chinese waters withdraw in order to help diffuse the current situation.