January 12, 2003, 05:08
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Unsinkable Trireme
I was playing a long-time former friend today and I found out that he was using the unsinkable cheat. He had done this on prior occasions as well and had justified at along various lines of:
1) He claims this is "knowledge."
2) He figures other people do it.
3) He figures he'll never be caught with his "I always risk my boats" excuse.
I caught him on 3 occasions using the boat cheat in our games, and I figure he does this in every game. Today was the last time I would tolerate this cheating, however, for I warned him not to do it and gave him the benefit of the doubt on previous occasions.
So confirm for us all. The unsinkable boat is a cheat, am I not right?
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January 12, 2003, 14:44
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Warlord
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never heard of it.. & who was this so called cheater
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January 12, 2003, 15:28
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Warlord
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I will not reveal his true identity, but his zone name is Zeppelin. It's only fair to let everyone know that he uses the boat cheat. He admits to the deed as well.
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January 12, 2003, 15:56
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thats why i stopped playing on the zone a long time ago..... can never trust anyone
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January 12, 2003, 15:58
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tough one to check for.Yes its definitly a cheat.
its done by just moving 2 spaces,press W(wait) and using the end turn keyboard shortcut.Same techinque that is used to keep missles and planes aloft forever if you want.
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January 12, 2003, 18:09
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Yup, that's a classic cheat originally used by the AI to prevent it's unit from crashing mid air.
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January 12, 2003, 18:53
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oh ok i knew about how to do that .. thought it might be a program... & why wont you say who old name was
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January 12, 2003, 19:02
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Because out of old friendship's sake, I pledged not to dishonor his real name. That's all. I do not consider him a friend, because he lied straight to my face. Said he'd never do it again, but again and again, he used it in every game he played with me.
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January 12, 2003, 20:41
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Just another peon
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I agree that this is a cheat that should not be allowed. I've posted in our rules set for this to be included as not allowed.
Thanks for reminding us of this one. I had forgotten about it.
RAH
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January 12, 2003, 21:01
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It's an old CHEAT... and I don't think I remember anybody in the old days defending the use of this trick.
People that use it should be taken out and shot
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January 12, 2003, 21:09
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lynch him, i have never used this cheat. cheating is pointless
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January 12, 2003, 22:32
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I just assume everyone at the zone cheats. I was playing someone there this week and getting lag when I was hosting, lol!
I destroyed a hydey city this weekend and he was left with a tri sticking out of a land square. So he attacked me with it - we just laughed about it.
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January 12, 2003, 22:45
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hey i resent that... i'm a zonner & i dont cheat .. we all dont cheat.. most dont finnish there games but we all dont cheat
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January 12, 2003, 23:04
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I didn't say everyone cheats at the zone - I said I assume everyone cheats. Saves time later
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January 12, 2003, 23:08
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i'm sorry you did say that .. i gotta read more carefully
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January 12, 2003, 23:44
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but we really knew what he meant zoners all cheat...
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January 13, 2003, 05:23
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Originally posted by War4ever
but we really knew what he meant zoners all cheat...
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It is certainly better here in that regard......though finishing games is a problem no matter where you play.
My vote is that this is a clear cheat btw.
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January 13, 2003, 18:53
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A bug, a flaw, a cheat.
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January 13, 2003, 19:00
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Originally posted by DrSpike
It is certainly better here in that regard......though finishing games is a problem no matter where you play.
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Not at the zone - they play settings where I quickly get creamed.
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January 13, 2003, 19:08
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it would appear that if someone attacks before mech infantry you don't like that either, which translated into aussie means you get creamed ? or do i have that wrong ?
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January 13, 2003, 21:17
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Warlord
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Last I checked there were a whole 5 people that still played this game. Who cares?
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January 13, 2003, 21:34
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Originally posted by HappySunShine
Last I checked there were a whole 5 people that still played this game. Who cares?
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Gee... you need to make some more friends... I know plenty of people that still play... well, at least I know plenty of people that will play with me
*and note, there are 65 people currently signed up for the Civ II MP Group*
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January 13, 2003, 21:46
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Originally posted by War4ever
it would appear that if someone attacks before mech infantry you don't like that either, which translated into aussie means you get creamed ? or do i have that wrong ?
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No I like early war. 6000 years of microing can get a little dull.
I go to the zone regularly for a dose of wham bam thank you maam civ.
No problems getting a game. In fact I refuse more than I play.
The ultimate insult to Eyes is many people won't play him over there because of past cheating and keep watch for his latest login.
I mean, a civ leper at the zone? How low can can you go?
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January 14, 2003, 00:02
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January 14, 2003, 05:23
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I mean, a civ leper at the zone? How low can can you go?
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Hehe.
There still have to be three figures of active players left, when you combine the settings at least.......so 5 is hyperbole.
However more popular MP games do have 3000 players online at all times.....the difference is stark.
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January 14, 2003, 06:52
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How many other 1996 games are still going strong?
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January 14, 2003, 06:55
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Originally posted by deity
How many other 1996 games are still going strong?
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Not many MP.....quakeworld is still quite popular, and TA (which is just over a year younger than civ) is still played.
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January 14, 2003, 13:57
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you mean there's othe MP games out there other then Civilization
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January 14, 2003, 17:17
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i too was not aware of this fact even in its heyday....civ2 never had the numbers of AOE...which is a shame, but then again, many children have the attention span of bug
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January 14, 2003, 18:23
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Quality over Quantity.
I'd rather have a group of 20 that I trust, than 1000's that I don't.
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