The greatest Civ game - Page 2

alva · January 15, 2003, 06:57

Civ 3 is miles ahead of the others IMHO.

It's a pity I threaw away both my CTP copies; seeing Locutus keeps defending them 'till the end

, I would like to give them another chance.
Not gonna buy them again though

rah · January 15, 2003, 10:31

Civ II MP, hands down best.

Harovan · January 15, 2003, 10:50

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Originally posted by cyclotron7
Civ3 is my favorite. I have CTP, and I find the PW system to be irksome in the extreme, especially since it made pillaging enemy roads, connects, fortresses, etc. useless. It removed an entire facet, pillaging, from the game.

AFAIK, in CTP (or was it 2, or both?) you can even choose exactly what improvement you want to pillage. You can, for instance, pillage the farm and leave the road intact. That's not possible in Civ3, I wish it was. What's really annoying in CtP(2) is, that you can't pillage an improvement until it's completely built.

VJ · January 15, 2003, 10:54

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SMAC isn't a part of the Civ series.

Call To Power isn't either, smartass

DrSpike · January 15, 2003, 11:03

CTP charts human advancement through historical ages......so it is a civ game, whereas SMAC (although in the same genre), has a sci-fi not a historical setting.

Rasbelin · January 15, 2003, 13:13

Tuome,

yeah, yeah, but it's concidered as Civ series member too by the Civ community, unlike SMAC which isn't a Civ game like CtP and CtP2.

Dauphin · January 15, 2003, 15:36

CtP1 is a "Civ" game (Civilization: Call to Power), CtP2 isn't (its just Call to Power II). At least thats what I understand the legal position to be with regards claims to the Civilization name.

Cyclotron · January 15, 2003, 21:10

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Originally posted by Locutus
How?

Pillaging is actually a very important part of my strategy in CtP1 as well as in CtP2. In CtP2-MedMod it's even crucial. It's not like PW reserves are infinite or anything, pillaging is no more or less important than in Civ...

No, PW reserves are not unlimited...

But when I pillage a railroad connection, assuming my enemy has some PW points, he just completely rebuilds it in no time at all. Even though my soldiers completely surround the tile, their workers still get in and out unmolested, and finish the work.

Not only is this silly, but it completely takes the value out of pillaging. I can't interfere with a civ's workers anymore; they can apparently repair their great infrastructure without leaving their cities. It's absurd. PW was, indeed, one of the major reasons I gave up CTP.

Cyclotron · January 15, 2003, 21:12

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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
AFAIK, in CTP (or was it 2, or both?) you can even choose exactly what improvement you want to pillage. You can, for instance, pillage the farm and leave the road intact. That's not possible in Civ3, I wish it was. What's really annoying in CtP(2) is, that you can't pillage an improvement until it's completely built.

I don't remember what it was in CTP, but I know you could do that in Civ2. I wish it was in Civ3, too.

Master Zen · January 16, 2003, 00:47

I voted for Civ2 MGE. Although Civ3 PtW is defenitely the best game in the series, Civ2 MGE was by far the greatest strategy game of its time. Even though the premise was the same, IMO it was miles ahead of Civ1, an already untoppable game in itself. Civ3 was an improvement over Civ2, but not as much as Civ2 was over Civ1.

Brian Reynolds, you are my hero. You are also guilty of making the single game/event/passtime which has taken most time out of my life than any other.

Zoid · January 16, 2003, 11:47

Civ2 MGE

But I must agree with comrade Tassadars first post and Alexnm. Alpha Centauri is more Civ than those games put together.

trickey · January 16, 2003, 19:33

Civ 3, Play the world. Give the game a chance, it's alot better than most people give it credit for.

Method · January 16, 2003, 21:52

i gave it a chance, and no, no it's not.

alva · January 16, 2003, 22:32

When did you last play it?

Rasbelin · January 17, 2003, 03:32

TKG,

you've been playing so much SMAC that you're very fond of it. Well, that quite explains why you don't find Civ III or PtW as something fun and working, unlike me who finds it fun and working. Why? I'm not really playing only one or several titles, or just one single genre. That's why I'm not bound to any such scepticism.

You old conservative fart.

VJ · January 18, 2003, 10:53

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CtP1 is a "Civ" game (Civilization: Call to Power), CtP2 isn't (its just Call to Power II). At least thats what I understand the legal position to be with regards claims to the Civilization name.

Yep, Firaxis actually sued Activision because they were originally claiming it to be
Civilization: Call To Power 2. CtP I was fun at start, but the endgame and goverments are really flawed.

Solver · January 18, 2003, 10:59

Tuome, ever tried the mods for CtP?

War4ever · January 18, 2003, 21:08

civ2 mp , bar none

Locutus · January 18, 2003, 21:10

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Originally posted by Solver
Tuome, ever tried the mods for CtP?

Christ! Not only did I get Solver to like modded CtP, I got him to promote it. What did I do to that poor boy

Solver · January 19, 2003, 07:58

Haha... for the record, Loc, I loved CtP 1 more than other civ games when I tried it first (unmodded), but I admit I was away from CtP 2 for a long time, and missed how the mods are improved

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OT - if you told me how to lower the AI priority for declaring war...

Capt Dizle · January 31, 2003, 00:52

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Originally posted by Rasbelin
SMAC isn't a part of the Civ series.

Of course it is. A lot more than the pathetic Civ3.

SMAC is way ahead of Civ1-3.

DrSpike · January 31, 2003, 05:37

Bloody hell JT......long time no post.

I knew some SMAC bashing would lure you out.

aaglo · January 31, 2003, 06:37

Civ3

Andemagne · January 31, 2003, 10:03

definently Civ2 MGE. can't be any other.

Odin · February 9, 2003, 18:32

My choice is CtP2.

Goodies:

Public works, no pesky workers.

Unconventional warfare! Slavers, terrorists, Eco-rangers ("Love Bugs"), Corperate branches, biowarfare!

MUCH less micromanagement than CtP1, Civ2, and Civ3.

Future technology.

Stacked and ranged combat.