January 14, 2003, 00:17
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Time to remove the evil porn poly ad
You know the one I'm talking about. "Your girlfriend.....the perfect gift for her" banner. Why should it be removed?
1. Apolyton claims to be a family-friendly site. Sorry, but this add is not very family friendly.
2. A mod recently banned someone for posting a picture of a shirtless male. Should they ban markos for putting this add in? 
3. This is personal....I dont believe in these kinds of pictures because I feel a strong connection to my wife and I believe that to look at these pictures is to violate the bond between us (I know, its one of those crazy Mormon reasons. Oh well.)
4. My son has had a problem with pornography for quite some time....him walking in just as that add pops up is not condusive to his recovery.
I know, I can simply "change my style". Barring the fact I actually like Poly adds (other than this one) my style change never seems to stick. I dont want it to suddenly unstick when my son is coming in the room, OK?
So I humblly request that Markos take down this add as again it is not something I believe in, and its not something that I believe a site that claims to be "Family friendly" would put up.
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January 14, 2003, 00:57
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King
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hahahaha I saw that. You see no more there in that ad than you would see on say...nicklodeon or ESPN. Lighten up
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January 14, 2003, 01:06
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Originally posted by faded glory
Lighten up
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Despite how boring they are, I do monitor the shows my son watches. I haven't seen something quite to that level.
Also, I believe that Poly should be a family friendly site. I'm fine if you TALK about sex, but when pictures get involved I begin to act like an angry mormon.
But quite frankly, I wouldn't quite allow my son to see that television show or station or whatever either because if hes RECOVERING from it, then I'm not going to intentionally or unintentionally expose him to it. And if I do, then I will take all steps I can to rectify the situation.
So you'll have to forgive me if I dont simply "lighten up".
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January 14, 2003, 01:54
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Prince
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Haven't seen this one...
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January 14, 2003, 02:03
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King
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hah. Tass...i dont doubt your parenting abilities at all. Im just saying, it is true. I see way more cleavage on Commercials than in one little picture.
What, who invited the thought police anyway?
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January 14, 2003, 02:04
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FG sighting! +1 
really though, the add isn't that bad. besides, have you seen the picture of jessica bum that's always getting posted? its completely within forum rules and its much more revealing
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January 14, 2003, 02:09
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King
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Ya +1. But im shutting down my ISP for a bit until the new comp gets built....sooooo...this will be my last night on the net for a couple weeks. 
oh its gonna suck. I might actually have to go out and socialize
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January 14, 2003, 02:18
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King
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FG: Apolyton is a social occasion!!!
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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January 14, 2003, 02:22
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King
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But grrr my therapist says apol............erm
na its Not jsut apolyton i havent been here for a few months. The internet in general is hard to get away from.
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January 14, 2003, 02:29
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Deity
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Oh, give me a break.
Morality from the one who sports uncle Joe as an avatar? Does anything in this picture strike anyone as ludicrous?
'Murder 30 or 40 million people, but don't you dare show no female body parts!'
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January 14, 2003, 02:37
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"3. This is personal....I dont believe in these kinds of pictures because I feel a strong connection to my wife and I believe that to look at these pictures is to violate the bond between us (I know, its one of those crazy Mormon reasons. Oh well.)"
Tassadar- it's not just a crazy mormon thing, especially to try for a strong marriage.
"Barring the fact I actually like Poly adds (other than this one) my style change never seems to stick."
I haven't heard of this before. Maybe Markos will look into it if you ask him nicely.
No one should have to look at pictures of female body parts if they don't want to.
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January 14, 2003, 02:55
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Prince
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I don't perceive the picture as offensive and I rather agree with notyoueitehr here .
So long...
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January 14, 2003, 04:32
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Last edited by Nubclear; January 14, 2003 at 04:38.
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January 14, 2003, 04:35
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Also, I get the impression that this thread will possibly degenerate into a "Lets insult Tassadar and his political beliefs" thread. Because Markos has probably heard my request and I highly doubt ANY good discussion will come from this thread, I request that it be closed. And it looks like I'm right....
Last edited by Nubclear; January 14, 2003 at 04:47.
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January 14, 2003, 04:36
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Retired
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Didn't seem like a very personal insult to me...
Just like you don't like to see MINIMAL skin on a women, some don't like to see a reminder of the horrors of the old Soviet Union...
Lighten up seems about right... And report all you want...
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January 14, 2003, 04:38
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That message by NYE actually catched my eye too. It's indeed more of a personal insult, if you refer to someone's avatar when we have a most likely fully legitimate case. Well, I've heard something about him outside Poly too, so I understand that there's a legitimate concern. However I would recommend the use of a pop-up killer and a program to remove any ad banners like the woman in bikini, if you think your son might get disturbed by it as he's recovering.
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January 14, 2003, 04:41
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Originally posted by Ming
Didn't seem like a very personal insult to me...
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We all know how unbiased you are Ming. Remember a little private chat we once had? Didn't seem very unbiased there.
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Just like you don't like to see MINIMAL skin on a women, some don't like to see a reminder of the horrors of the old Soviet Union...
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Some dont like to see reminders of illegal israeli occupation either. Their AVATARS ming and if you dont like mine: REMOVE IT. However this is IS a family site and I request that Markos remove a pornography ad. And yes it is porn: People have been banned for posting shirtless males in the forums. This is much more than that....
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January 14, 2003, 04:51
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Originally posted by Ming
Just like you don't like to see MINIMAL skin on a women, some don't like to see a reminder of the horrors of the old Soviet Union...
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The issue wasn't if Tass can see halfnude women (I'm sure he has seen naked women too), but if his son could be protected a little bit as he's recovering from being somekind of a pornoholic. Yeah, well, I guess you can't abstain from talking politics now when we simply talk about one banner and one child as we know that you oppose Tass' political opinions. Bah, hippocricy. 
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Lighten up seems about right... And report all you want...
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Am I the only one (except for Tass, of course) who at least understands the son's situation? 
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January 14, 2003, 05:04
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Deity
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I like the women in bikini ad (and no I'm not a pervert). Seriously folks I see much worse walking down the street or going to the beach. If it's considered reasonable public dress, at least here in southern California, then why not allow it on 'poly?
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January 14, 2003, 05:08
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I like the women in bikini ad (and no I'm not a pervert).
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Some people do. However, there are websites for that.
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Seriously folks I see much worse walking down the street or going to the beach.
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Yes, I've heard horror stories about Californians dressing to go to the beach
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If it's considered reasonable public dress, at least here in southern California, then why not allow it on 'poly?
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I think you just answered your own question
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January 14, 2003, 05:14
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Deity
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I admite I live at the beach so people put fewer clothes on then in other places but it's hardly pornographic. Neither is the 'poly advert. People should just lighten up and not get worked into a lather over such a minor thing.
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January 14, 2003, 05:16
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As much as people would like to disagree due to the nature of things today, he has a legit concern, and people should at least try to understand where he's coming from...
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January 14, 2003, 05:19
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I admite I live at the beach so people put fewer clothes on then in other places but it's hardly pornographic. Neither is the 'poly advert. People should just lighten up and not get worked into a lather over such a minor thing.
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Oh come now. Mostly it is my son I worry about....My webpage is poly forums. I always have a window open for poly when I'm on the computer. When he comes by and sees this add...I can tell that hes both excited and disappointed and he wiggles his way out of the room and how he acts all day.
You also have to consider we live in Utah.....This state teaches in school that pronography is NOT a good thing. It was very short, but basically it was a flier of what to do when your child sees pornography. That combined with him having Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Obessive Compuslive Disorder, and major depression with psychotic symptoms...It doesnt help.
I'm sure you can understand? 
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January 14, 2003, 05:26
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Deity
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I understand where you're coming from and if I ever have children then I might change my mind. But for now I think it's ok. As a constructive suggestion you might be able to download one of those banner & pop-up ad blockers off the internet which will solve the problem or you could submite a replacement ad to Markos which doesn't show quite as much skin.
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January 14, 2003, 05:34
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Originally posted by Oerdin
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Hmm....Could you point me to something that could do such a thing that doesnt have any spyware in it? Though I still believe that the removal of the ad would make this a family-friendly site, I can be greedy. I just dont want my son exposed to it at all.
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January 14, 2003, 05:46
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My wife recently suspected me to visit naughty sites, when she spotted this ad. I tried to calm her down, "it's only Apolyton, my dear". "Ok then", she replied. "But wait, who is Apolyton?"
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January 14, 2003, 05:53
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Deity
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I sympathise with Tass.....I hope MarkG responds to him.
But I spend some time here, and I haven't seen any porn......where's mine?
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January 14, 2003, 06:15
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King
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Why doesn't Markos replace it with a similar add with a beautiful woman dressed in more than four napkins?
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January 14, 2003, 06:18
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Deity
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How old is your son Tass? Has he never seen a woman in bikinis? My take is too much repression will have the opposite effect. So try moderation.
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January 14, 2003, 09:41
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Prince
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I do not see why the add is called pornographic. You got to be kidding me. Walk down the beach anytime anywhere and you see a lot more than on that tiny ad. I do not see why the ad should be removed.
I do not know what the reason was behind removing the post with the shirtless guy but if it was for the reasons you name it was wrong too.
So long...
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