The Sheepstan- Alcrestian War

Sheep · January 16, 2003, 08:56

To recap what has happened until now. The Sheepstan government went to war with USJ to help an ally, which later on was found out to be in the wrong. Peace with the USJ has been made, but the Alcrestan government then took Sheepstan citzens hostage, and assasinating the war minister.

In response to this the years of Sheepstan military build up aimed at the Soviets, had been redirected against Alecrast. Goldeneye a secret Sheepstan sattelite weapon detonated a high atmospheric neutron blast frying all military grade communications in Alecrast. Within minutes Sheepstan air strikes began, and have already levelled some of Flaim, the Alecrast capital.

Alecrast has given back the hostages through the now neutral USJ, however deny any wrongdoing. The Sheepstan government cannot accept this as Sheepsta was clearly at peace or in negotiations at the time of the Alecrastian terrorism. Only the threats of the Centralis government has stopped this war from going any futher.

As of know Sheepstan Army personnel ready themselves for an invasion of Alecrast. While a NAvy blockade chokes the economic well being of the island nation, around the clock air strikes bring halt to all major Alecratsian cities.

Archaic · January 16, 2003, 10:21

Geez, you're really breaking the bullshit meter here.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...6&pagenumber=4

Peace with the USJ was made long AFTER we took your mistress and choir boys as hostage and assassinated your war minister. Why did we keep holding out after that? Because you threatened to hit us with nukes! Furthermore, your justification was just pathetic, especially given how many times you contradicted yourself there. Seriously, do you know how to roleplay besides as a munchkin?

After this, you went on with bullshit after bullshit for a long time about attacking me and trying to make yourself out to be a superpower, which I already believe has been dismissed. You have *NO* superweapons, and you could not possibily have made such an attack with the distance between our two nations. (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=6 - Within 5 minutes? When I'm on the other side of Apolyton and many nations lie between us, all of which I'm sure wouldn't like your troops, planes, boats, etc passing through their lands? Give me a break.)

Oh yes, and you had a trained Alecrast Yokuza officer with his gun at the back of your head there too. (First post - http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=5)

Everyone, feel free to ignore this thread. It's mearly the ravings of a madman.

Sheep · January 17, 2003, 23:02

Ha, okay so I can;t invade you or hurt you, but you are me, I call that fair, not. Call me when you are willing to be realistic.

BTW. I was concluding a peace settlement with Jackson when you decided to take my people hostage, and think okay even with my thousands of gaurds somehow a agent of yours had a gun at the back of my head. I think not.

GeneralTacticus · January 17, 2003, 23:14

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BTW. I was concluding a peace settlement with Jackson when you decided to take my people hostage,

Bullsh*t. Your people were taken hostage when you declared a 'crusade' against The United States of Jackson for defending it's ally against Elysian and UBM aggression.

Sheep · January 17, 2003, 23:28

Yes but what noone knows is that I was talking to Jack the whole time and was working a way out of this as the declration was made. Unfortuantley I at the time had to honour my commitments due to lack of intellegiencs on New Elysuim operations

GeneralTacticus · January 17, 2003, 23:39

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Yes but what noone knows is that I was talking to Jack the whole time and was working a way out of this as the declration was made. Unfortuantley I at the time had to honour my commitments due to lack of intellegiencs on New Elysuim operations

In which case,r ather than threatening to unleash a nuclear war, you should simply have said so and asked for the hostages to be released. The blame for the crisis remains on you.

Sheep · January 17, 2003, 23:56

The blame of the crisis remains on the terrorist actions of Alecrast for attacking Sheepsta, and the terrorist actions of New Elysium for invading the Sovietskii Soyuz, to help a terrorist organistation.

All Sheepstan ties have been cut to both nations til a formal apology is written out. However all Sheepstan military operations on Alecrat are hear by suspended, to show the benevolance of the Lord Protector.

Although still at war with Alecrast only the naval blockade remains. The Holy Sheepstan Navy and Submarine fleets completely surrounding the island nation of Alecrast.

The Lord Protector has read out that he will support any Centralis, USJ or Sovietskii Soyuz attack on New Elysuim for their participation in the attacks on the Sovietskii Soyuz government. We will send 100 Elite Holy Gaurds to assit in this operation if needed.

Although we have moved back down to Alert level 3, our nuclear missiles are still aimed at Alecrast. We announce that the Sheepstan Intellegence Agency has rounded up all Alecrastian agents in Sheepsta, and through the tough Sheepstan quarrantine and custom laws has effectively stopped all military hardware from leaving the Sheepstan island

Urban Ranger · January 18, 2003, 00:03

ALL diplomatic ties? Isn't this overdoing it a bit? Won't recalling your amassadors work?

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:09

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The blame of the crisis remains on the terrorist actions of Alecrast for attacking Sheepsta, and the terrorist actions of New Elysium for invading the Sovietskii Soyuz, to help a terrorist organistation.

You never give up, do you? The blame for the crisis lies on you, for declaring a crusade, which it was implied would involve nuclear weapons, against a nation which had valiantly defended it's ally. Alecrast took action to avert the crisis, and you decided to turn your aggression against them.

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All Sheepstan ties have been cut to both nations til a formal apology is written out. However all Sheepstan military operations on Alecrat are hear by suspended, to show the benevolance of the Lord Protector.

The only person owing an apology here is you, for your nuclear brinkmanship which could have resulted in millions of deaths, and your blatantly unprovoked miltiary assault on Alecrast.

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Although still at war with Alecrast only the naval blockade remains. The Holy Sheepstan Navy and Submarine fleets completely surrounding the island nation of Alecrast.

This remains an act of blatant aggression and will not be tolerated by the Republic of Centralis. You have 24 hours to withdraw them, or we will do so by force.

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The Lord Protector has read out that he will support any Centralis, USJ or Sovietskii Soyuz attack on New Elysuim for their participation in the attacks on the Sovietskii Soyuz government. We will send 100 Elite Holy Gaurds to assit in this operation if needed.

While we cannot speak for the others, we see no reason to accept aid from a nation whose sole actions so far have been the imposition of brutal, fundamentalist dictatorship and nonstop threats of war against other nations, all of whom are quite capable of reducing your country to an incandescent ruin, regardless of what you choose to do.

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We announce that the Sheepstan Intellegence Agency has rounded up all Alecrastian agents in Sheepsta, and through the tough Sheepstan quarrantine and custom laws has effectively stopped all military hardware from leaving the Sheepstan island

Too late. Centralis has already taken delivery of the stolen nukes, sent to us to avoid the Sheepstan blockade.

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Although we have moved back down to Alert level 3, our nuclear missiles are still aimed at Alecrast.

Kind of hard to aim nuclear missiles when you don't actually have them.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 00:16

Hah. you keep thinking that you have my nukes but you don;t They are allsafe and sound in the deep underground bunker in the Lamb mountains, well away from your reach. The ones that you have are obviuosly fake. Detonate one. It won;t work. Alecrast tells the lies my friends. Futhermore, the Lord Protector has given an apology to the USJ and the Sovietskii Soyuz, but not to Alecrast. Alecrast is considered a vile pagan and terroriust nation and will be dealt with, to enforce santiy on that nation.

If Centralis wants to help a terrorist nation, than the following nations of the world have agreed to help.

The Dominion of Bongoland, South Pacific.
The entirety of the region of Axis
The entirety of the region of Redscape.
Sheep Springs and her allies in CFC Region.

My friend to prevent this world war, all Sheepsta requires is an apology from the Alecrastan government and sufficent reperations. If you have such a powerful force with the Alecrastians then I suggest you prevent this World Catastorophe.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:26

Well, we certainly have the power to destroy your entire nation if we wish - with your own nukes. We know that the Alecrastians are not lying, for two reasons:

1) Your own communication networks are still filled with frantic chatter about 'where did the nukes go?'

2) We have the nukes right here, and our scientists ahve confirmed that they are the real thing.

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Alecrast is considered a vile pagan and terroriust nation and will be dealt with, to enforce santiy on that nation.

*SIGH* I'm wondering why I should bother talking with a leader who is this obviously deranged. The sequence of events runs thus:

1) New Elysium invades the Sovietskii Soyuz.

2) Sheepsta supports this blatant aggression.

3) Sheepsta declares a crusade on Jackson for defending their allies.

4) Alecrast kidnaps members of your family in order to enforce sanity upon you.

5) Rather than seeing reason, you threaten to destroy an entrie country and bring about the destruction of your own.

6) Upon finding themselves unable to use nukes, Sheepsta launches a blatantly unprovoked attack on Alecrast, and threatens to ignite a world war in order srtoke it's leader's bruised ego.

Nowhere in this sequence of events is there any terrorism but that directed agaisnt Alecrast. The only terrorist here is you.

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My friend to prevent this world war, all Sheepsta requires is an apology from the Alecrastan government and sufficent reperations.

The only country that should be paying reparations here is you, as you ahve caused a great deal of property damage within Alecrast and the military mobilizations your actions have necessitated have proven extremely expensive. If need be, Centralis will take Sheepsta to the Apolyton Court for aggression and conspiracy to commit crimes against humanity.

EDIT: In addition to the money you ahve cost us by your aggression.

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If you have such a powerful force with the Alecrastians then I suggest you prevent this World Catastorophe.

Only you can prevent this world war: stand down your troops, accept the return of your hostages, admit your defeat, and go on with your own business.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 00:31

The Holy Empire of Sheepsta does not give into terrorism. my nukes are safe and sound. Any chatter you may of heard is all mashikrova. Alecrast is in the driver seat. If he wishes to avert regional and world war then he may do so. My hostages have not been returned and until an apology comes we will not, accept this. Reperations will be light and will involve 1 million fleeces to the families of each hostage. Not much to avert a war.

Either way Centralis take me to the court. I do not abide by their laws and have not signed any document to do so. Therefore the Apolyton Courts are meaningless to me, as they are just a farce by the Cetrali government to gain control over Sheepsta

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:33

No, they are an attempt at forcing you to take responsibility for your own actions.

moreover, whatever you may claim about the chatter, it is real, and we do have your nukes. I have seen them myself and can provide you with photographic evidence if you wish.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 00:40

hah, send one my way then, it will fail. All intellegience outside of Sheepsta have been directed to dummy silos with ICBMs with conventional warheads. All my nukes are safe and well. Seriosuly thought you may want to look at your own silos. Sheepstan Holy Gaurds, have managed to walk away with quiet a few of your missiles.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 00:41

The Ambasador of Sheepsta has been withdrawn from Centralis. Centralis is obviously more intrested in helping a terrorist nation that the people of the region.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 00:47

I will ask the Sovietskii Souyz to sign the anti-terrorist alliance. This will prevent terrorism spreading in our region through Centralis

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:54

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Seriosuly thought you may want to look at your own silos. Sheepstan Holy Gaurds, have managed to walk away with quiet a few of your missiles.

It's rather hard to steal things which we don't have. We have cruise missiles, not ballistic ones, which are stored in mobile launch vehicles, aircraft and ships.

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hah, send one my way then, it will fail.

Unlike you, we do not feel the need to murder millions of perfectly innocent people to prove our own superiority.

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All intellegience outside of Sheepsta have been directed to dummy silos with ICBMs with conventional warheads.

Regardless of whatever fantasies you may have come up with to coneal your defeat, we DO have your nukes. We have examined the warheads down to the finest detail and they are geniune.

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The Ambasador of Sheepsta has been withdrawn from Centralis. Centralis is obviously more intrested in helping a terrorist nation that the people of the region.

Yet more evidence of your own mental instability. Sheepsta's ambassador was in fact expelled from our country following the establishment of your tyranny.

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While not fond of your nation, the supreme ruler beileves that Centralis is a threat to the happiness of both the people of the Commonwealth of Akiria and the Peoples Republic of the Sovietskii Soyuz and therefore proposes that in the event of a war, Sheepsta and the Sovietskii Souyz cooperate against Centralis.

And ehre we have a fine example of the so-called 'logic' employed by AIs.

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I will ask the Sovietskii Souyz to sign the anti-terrorist alliance. This will prevent terrorism spreading in our region through Centralis

We ask again: Why is it that you persist in pretending to be against the thing that is your specialty? Since asusming power, you have done nothing but employ terror, first against your own people, and then against others.

OOC: Would you kindly give it up? You've been pushing this bullcrap for ages, and it's no more cogent now than it was then. If you want to play in an 'anything goes' environment, be my guest, but don't be surprised when your missiles run into an impentrable force field. Like I said, if you want to fabricate 100 nukes out thin air, go ahead, but if you start acting like a twit, don't be surprised if others don't take you seriously.

Now I'm going to withdraw from this thread. There is no war going on, regardless of what Sheepsta may think, and thus there is no reason for me to continue wasting my time here. /OOC

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 01:06

occ What gives you the right. I am at war with Alecrast. My nation is gearing up for war and just beacuse you have been in this particular forum area for longer doesn;t give you the right to dictate to me what I can or cannot do.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:34

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occ What gives you the right. I am at war with Alecrast. My nation is gearing up for war and just beacuse you have been in this particular forum area for longer doesn;t give you the right to dictate to me what I can or cannot do.

The right to what? To state some basic principles of common sense? You were playing the game as essentially 'anything goes', and then you started complaining when you were outwitted. IF you want matters to stay within the bound of reality, then it would be a good idea to stop inventing superweapons out of thin air, because others can do so too.

And for the sake of holding the game together, it would help if you avoided the constant ranting about 'terrorism' that you've been doing recently. Just because Bush does it, doesn't mean you should, and it sure as hell doesn't make it fun for other nations to listen to.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 01:41

whatever, Sheepsta will launch upon you if you do anything more towards it. It is fed up with your idea that you can boss anyone and everything around and would like to rermind the government of Centralis that 76 million people is not much of a diffrence to 10 million when nuclear weapons are concerned. Back off, Alecrast committed terrorism on the government of our nation and we will protect it to the full if we are threatened.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:50

Haven't you got the message yet, Sheep? I'm not playing along. I refuse to ruin my fun in this game because you want to be a jerk.

Oh, and even if you do have nuclear weaposn (which is debateble), I'm perfectly within my rights to say that I have them as well, according to your rules, in which I have the right to declare that absolutely anything I want has just happened, and you are not allowed to contradict me.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 01:54

I admit you have nuclear weapons. But I have not gone to say I am invunrable from them.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:59

Neither have I. I've simply been trying to prevent anyone from using them, because if the complete destruction of nations is going to become a feature of this, it's not worth continuing to play. Neither is it worth carrying on playing if all the game is is an argument over whether or not people can do this or that. As long as everybody exercises some common sense, this is not a problem, but no-one seems willing to do that here.

Giovanni Wine · January 18, 2003, 08:39

The Kingdom of Wine have unleashed if full Nuclear might by firing one milion nukes over Sheepsta, Sheep Springs, Bongoland, Redscape Region, Axis Region, Centralis and Sovietskii Soyuz

Of course one milion nuke over each target, for a total of 7 milion nukes fired. Effectively reducing all these nations and regions to a nuclear wasteland.

OOC: This was obviuosly a joke, now, can we just stop playing like babies

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 08:42

*APPLAUSE*

Archaic · January 18, 2003, 08:54

*MORE APPLAUSE*
*Gives an Endorsement to TKOW*

Giovanni Wine · January 18, 2003, 09:47

Thanks

Saluti

Archaic · January 18, 2003, 09:58

There you go Sheepsta. You got ranked 9th for the nations most supporting a free market. I got ranked 10th. If you know anything about my rep in the SMAC Demo Game, then you know that's something special. There, you've got your absolution, so get lost.

Mr. President · January 19, 2003, 03:25

Apparently I have the freest market in Apolyton (I'm now officially a "Corporate Bordello"

). That's what I was aiming for anyway.

Do you think there should be more rules on wars and stuff so that people like Sheep can't ruin everyone's fun?

Archaic · January 19, 2003, 04:41

Indeed there should be. But how to make them, and make people follow them?