NEWSFLASH: Revolution in Akiria! No-one dead, no-one flees. - Page 3

GeneralTacticus · January 17, 2003, 23:47

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But I have undergone the procedure...I am now perfect....for the people.....

*YAWN* you didn't answer the question. No doubt Ossweld refuses to eat meat, like the rest of his people, and considers himself perfect, yet you condemned him for his actions.

Urban Ranger · January 17, 2003, 23:51

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
It works for the people....they are happy....therefore it is perfect.

It asserts to work for the people. It asserts that the people are happy. We all heard that before.

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The Sovietskii Soyuz announces that special computer BRAIN IMPLANTS have been developed are are equipped with the revolutionary "For the People!" program. The government has authorized forced implantation in all of its people.

Make no mistake. A buffer overrun flaw in your "For the People!" program enables malicious outside attackers to take control of your people. In fact, seeing this coming and not wanting this vulnerability to be used against us, our field agents have installed a trojan in your prorgam, which overflows the buffer when the prorgam is first executed and closes the buffer. So that we can now control you if we want to, but we won't - yet. You are now instructed not to find the trojan. Over and out.

GeneralTacticus · January 17, 2003, 23:53

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This is different. Meat is something to be enjoyed as it is food. Him banning it is depriving the people of joy.....

Exactly.

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However I am giving the people joy....ultimate joy....

You are forcing them to accept your idea of joy. This is no different from what Ubinia has done.

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Modeling myself after Akiria in working for the people....We shall all reach the celebration that is collective conciousness.....

Collective conciousness means one mind, which in turn means the end of discussion, and thus of progress.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:10

To quote Archaic: Concession accepted.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:39

The Sovietskii Soyuz joins Akiria on the Centralian list of non-states.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 00:51

To Akira: The Holy Empire of Sheepsta fully supports you against the rouges of Centralis

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 00:57

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The Sovietskii Soyuz demands to see the list and demands that Centralis apologize for the errors made. It will use nuclear weapons if required.

Ah, another prime example of 'logic'. The Centralis list of non-states includes Akiria and the Sovietskii Soyuz; they have been placed on the list due to their take-over by computerised dictatorships. centralis intends no hostile action against either of you, but being on the list means that as far as Centralis is concerned, you do not exist as states. You are merely entities.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 01:15

The Holy Empire of Sheepsta will support such a move as an elimination of a terrorist nation.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:17

Recognition as what? Another interntational terrorist state? That's the only label that can be applied when you threaten a nuclear-armed nation with war.

Quite apart from that, your addition to the list means nothing, according to your own official statements; you refuse to deal with any nation that does not surrender to you, so why should you care whether or not you are considered a state?

OOC: And right now, I don't really care what you do. Ever since Sheep started pulling his bullsh*t about 'terrorism' and 'I nuked you', this place has been going down the tubes. If you want to carry on with this, go right ahead. But you can do it without me.
/OOC

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:23

We are glad to see that at least some sanity has prevailed within the Sovietskii Soyuz.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:25

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OOC: I agree, so I've backed down I'm not about to start another Sheep-type shitfest.

I'm glad of that, at least.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 01:44

occ: general tacticus. You need to realise when you say something you must do it also. If you are intrested in not having me continuing to threaten you, then you must allow that certain things you claim did not happen. I am not the least bit supportive of you, and if you continue with your bullshit than I will do mine.

Archaic · January 18, 2003, 01:47

Centralis, it's the belief of the government of Alecrast that the Sovietskii Soyuz, a heavy purchaser of Akira computers, is already under the control of the Akirian AI. We suggest you take all computers of Akirian make offline. Replacements produced by Alecrast corperations from locally sourced parts have already been shipped to you. I'm sorry, but this is all the aid I can offer right now. This may well be my last transmission for quite some time. We're about to activate our defences against this menace......and we're not altogether certain that everything's going to work as we're hoping. Good luck friend, to you and your nation.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 01:49

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occ: general tacticus. You need to realise when you say something you must do it also. If you are intrested in not having me continuing to threaten you, then you must allow that certain things you claim did not happen. I am not the least bit supportive of you, and if you continue with your bullshit than I will do mine.

This 'bullsh*t' being what? I really don't care whether you are supportive of me or not, but in the interests of the other people who use this forum (and my own, for that matter), I'm willing to discuss this.

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Centralis, it's the belief of the government of Alecrast that the Sovietskii Soyuz, a heavy purchaser of Akira computers, is already under the control of the Akirian AI. We suggest you take all computers of Akirian make offline. Replacements produced by Alecrast corperations from locally sourced parts have already been shipped to you. I'm sorry, but this is all the aid I can offer right now. This may well be my last transmission for quite some time. We're about to activate our defences against this menace......and we're not altogether certain that everything's going to work as we're hoping. Good luck friend, to you and your nation.

There are no longer any Akirian made computers existing in our nation. They were destroyed as soon as Akizeta revealed that they contained copies of itself.

Sheep · January 18, 2003, 01:55

The Lord Protector is a friend of Akira and the Soviettii Soyzu for this.

Jack_www · January 18, 2003, 02:07

This is very trobling devolopements. We are now pullling out all Jackson troops from Sovietskii Soyuz.

Jack_www · January 18, 2003, 02:09

Sovietskii Soyuz, any use of nuclear weapons will be meet in kind with nuclear strike by Jackson. Be warned we will not stand for black mail with the use of nuclear weapons.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 02:12

Centralis asks Jackson to please refrain from making any further threats. This crisis has been effectively resolved, and although we appreciate your statement, the last thing we want is to risk reigniting it.

Jack_www · January 18, 2003, 02:18

I see. Well it is the current policy of the Unted States of Jackson that any use of nuclear weapons on our nation or allies will be meat with the use of our nuclear weapons on that nation. That has not changed.

GeneralTacticus · January 18, 2003, 02:19

We realize that, and approve of this policy, we simply did not wish you to risk inflaming the situation when it was already resolved.

Jack_www · January 18, 2003, 02:22

occ: I posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry

Drogue · January 18, 2003, 13:47

Long Post, many answers. Sorry

Tassadar:

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In other news.....The Sovietskii Soyuz wishes to open talks with Akiria to begin the following:

-The acceptance of "Happiness Inpsections Teams".
-Restoration of trade relations
-A meeting between Drouge, Tassadar, and the computer-person-whom-has-a-name-thats-hard-to-remember.
-A culture exchange program.
-A student exchange program.
-Begin work on a new architectual and technological wonder of the world ( Secretly, of course)
-Programming of an anti-virus program for Akiria.

Thank you.

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All acceptable. Name = Akizeta. Anti-virus not needed, but forsee no harm in accepting.
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I am Neo-Tassadar, the new leader of the Peoples Republic of the Sovietskii Soyuz. I have come to inform you that the "Total Population Integration Process" is now complete. The following changes are being made to society:

The Sovietskii Soyuz has now officially adopted the language of Hacker as the official language of the Sovietskii Soyuz.

The Sovietskii Soyuz immediately pulls out of the Organization for Defense of Sovereign Nations.

The Sovietskii Soyuz offers a Military and Trade Pact with the natino of Akiria for both the purposes of defense, offense, and most importantly of all the protection of the happiness of both of our peoples.

The Sovietskii Soyuz adopts a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to insults against the nation or attacks against the nation.

The Sovietskii Soyuz does not tolerate any aggression of any form against the Sovietskii Soyuz or any other allied nation.

The Sovietskii Soyuz terminates all trade with all other nations other than those that it is allied with (Currently only Akiria).

The Sovietskii Soyuz eliminates the need for currency and economy as all the peoples work out of their own happiness. Therefore all corperations shall soon be banned.

These changes are now immediate. Any intereference is not tolerated.

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Akizeta commends Neo-Tassadar. Wise move. Military and trade pact accepted. However, Akiria free market. Government intervention is small. Relative wealth seems to create happiness.
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To the government of Akiria: We request you transmit your AI program so that ours may be perfected.

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Accepted. Has been transmitted.
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Frozzy:

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OOC: The USA has the most advanced (not numerical) military in the world. Yet Russia or China could invade from California and reach Chicago before Washington could repel them. Shock is just as important as numbers, friend /OOC

OOC: Yes, but that would involve shock. Since we know of the intent to destroy us, we would be prepared. Also, talking about realism, Akiria is on the North West side of Apolyton, Pasiphae is on the South East side (according to Map of Apolyton). Could your planes have flown that far? I doubt it. However it is role-play, and for the sake of enjoyment, some ad lib, some imagination would be allowed, no?

Even being realistic, if it can hit an ICBM, I presume it could hit a plane? /OOC

Urban Ranger:

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"An AI does not have a life as we know it. It does not breathe, acquire energy, or reproduce offsprings."

It adapts to its environment, it learns, IMHO, it is therefore alive. It has no need to breathe, it does not need oxygen, it is powered, like all computer in Akiria, by solar panels, by wind and hydroelectric farms, and by wave power, therefore it does acquire energy. It cannot reproduce as such, but can create and spawn new programs if it wishes.

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"An AI cannot be more sophisticated than the computer hardware it runs on."

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“Sorry, this is not Star Wars. Be realistic. All the computer networks in the region of Apolyton cannot even begin to compare in complexity to the human brain."

And the total power of every single computer in Akiria, a nation with 232 Million people, and a large IT industry, all linked together. That it a lot of computers, and (although very different obviously) could act like the neural net inside the brain? This whole game is not realistic, we have 30,000 nations on one planet, we have nations populated by dragons etc. I do not think an incredibly intelligent AI is too much of a stretch for the imagination.

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"Interesting take, but lacks any understanding of the underlying science and technology. An AI is just like a human mind, it does not automagically acquire knowledge just because it is inside a computer. Therefore, it is not surprising that it has no knowledge of network security."

No, not just because it is there, but because it is there it has ready access to the information, and because it can computer quickly, can assimilate the information very quickly. Therefore, it will know much about computing, IMHO.

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"Does a peaceful AI threaten to kill people? All this talks of peacefulness cannot hide its true colours, for it has been betrayed by its unprovoked attacks on the Dominion of Noosland."

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We have attacked no one. We are peaceful. However, we will defend ourselves. If we are not attacked, we will not attack. If we are attacked, we will annihilate. We care about the safety of Akiria. Beyond that, we have no opinion.
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Sheep:

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To Akiria: The Holy Empire of Sheepsta fully supports you against the rouges of Centralis.

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Thank you
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