January 20, 2003, 12:13
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Originally posted by Pedrunn
Here is the moment i asked if any proposal would be sent util the moment i ended the turn. I even asked twice and i cant see a feedback from IW about what to send. I thought i hadnt see but the log doesnt lie i did not got a answer from him!!!
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Not getting an answer is not the same as a negative answer. IW had already indicated twice before that he clearly wanted a map-exchange, so you should either have done so anyway or have waited longer until he *did* answer.
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[22:00] <Pedrunn> IW: Will we threat the Austrians in the exchange map proposal?
[22:00] <HTower>
[22:00] <Zephyr> no
[22:00] <Zephyr> I'm still convinced its not worth it
[22:00] <Zephyr> give them gold. its your prerogative to determine how much
[22:17] <Zephyr> go east
[22:17] <Zephyr> we can get the west map from austroa
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I know the job of President isn't easy, but you clearly made a mistake here, a big mistake. But nobody's perfect, mistakes can be made, so that's not too big a deal.
But to make things worse, you also screwed up the proposal when you *did* make it. Now, that merely shows you're a poor (=inexperienced?) diplomat, not that you're a poor president (noone told you to use the correct order), so in that respect noone can hold that against you.
However, it did piss me off: we could have had a close (if temporary) friendship with the Austrians, now war might be unavoidable. And if we do go to war, it will all be because of your mistakes, whether you could help it or not. I apologize if I offended you, but you can't deny the facts...
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January 20, 2003, 19:16
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= inexperienced.
Why bother when you can flatten the AI?
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January 20, 2003, 19:20
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'cuz it's fun? And with Frenzy AI, you don't want war with 12 civs at the same time?
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January 20, 2003, 19:28
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Yeah you do, that's when it becomes fun and (heaven forbid) even challenging!
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January 20, 2003, 23:00
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I apologize if I offended you, but you can't deny the facts...
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Locutus, not offended just want to clear up why i did not send the proposal and the aswer is because it was not given to me a clear order to do so. You cant deny the facts.
BTW, try not to use incomplete info against me.
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[22:00] <Pedrunn> IW: Will we threat the Austrians in the exchange map proposal?
[22:00] <HTower>
[22:00] <Zephyr> no
[22:00] <Zephyr> I'm still convinced its not worth it
[22:00] <Zephyr> give them gold. its your prerogative to determine how much
[22:01] <Zephyr> possibly
[22:01] <The-Gingerbread-Man> This is all too political for me.
[22:01] <Locutus> theatening doesn't cost anything AFAIK. but it won't help either, not right now...
[22:01] <HuangShang> no gold
[22:01] <Zephyr> how much gold do we have?
[22:02] <Zephyr> Martin's here
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If you go to the end. Asking how much gold we have is not my ideal of be sure to send a give gold proposal. And you guys are to be blaim to since you knew i had not given any comment about the proposal even if it was accepted as expected.
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January 20, 2003, 23:02
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And about the order the proposal should be sent i bet less than 20% of the community knew.
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January 21, 2003, 00:07
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I knew about the order they should be sent, i think someone mentioned it in the mod forum, besides ive always done it that way because thats how to interface is layed out with the request window first.
But come on lets not blame Pedrunn, we dont want to play a perfectly efficient game anyway, of course not make the wrong decisions on purpose but its no biggy if we do.
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