January 17, 2003, 15:10
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Chieftain
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City limits...
Hi folks, first post here; if this is in a FAQ I apologize, but I couldn't seem to locate it.
Play the World game, 16 civs, 256x256 map.
Two big continents. 1860's. I found it curious that the western continent was still largely unsettled. I sent over some settlers.
"Too many cities"
What is the limit, and is it hardcoded? Is there somewhere to uncap it?
I know the civ team traditionally seems to LOVE hardcoded limits on their games; but its not as though my machine can't handle it. There has to be approximately 500 cities on the map as it is, (I would imagine the limit is then 512 or 640) and there isn't too much slowdown. Between this and learning that there is a hard limit on units I am getting a bit disappointed.
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January 17, 2003, 15:26
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King
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The question is, how are you supposed to conquer new cities now? 
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January 17, 2003, 15:35
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Chieftain
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Unless I need to make a resource grab, I like to let the world fill out before going after my neighbors.
Besides, on a planet this big, established road/railroad networks are a must before starting any action.
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January 17, 2003, 16:44
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Official Civilization IV Strategy Guide Co-Author
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I *think* the city limit is 512, and as far as I know it's not uncappable. 
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January 20, 2003, 05:30
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King
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The Limit is 512 and it IS hardcoded
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January 20, 2003, 07:27
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You're playing this game during your work hours in a NASA supercomputer, aren't you? 
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January 20, 2003, 15:20
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Deity
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January 21, 2003, 18:28
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Chieftain
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Dual Athlon MP1800+ w/ 2Gb RAM.
Seriously though, one should not need a computer like that to play a game like this.
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January 21, 2003, 18:51
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King
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Well, there is a lot going on. In particular, the shortest path finder seems to be the culprit for slow down. Every time something changes that effects this portions need to be recalculated.
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January 22, 2003, 16:37
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Prince
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512 / 16 Civ's = 32 Cities for each Civ.
4096 / 16 Civ's = 256 units for each Civ.
256 / 32 = 8 units for each City.
unless some Civ's have more or less.
How many Cities and Units should the game have?
Totally that is??
Maybe a further patch will have a higher limit, although its only a model of a reality of the real Civilization, and anything else might be to be considered as Government Work!
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January 22, 2003, 17:15
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Chieftain
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It should, ideally, be proportional to the largest map size, if limited at all.
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January 22, 2003, 19:06
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Chieftain
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They NEED to fix this!
What is the point of playing on a gigantic map?!
I know it's not a big deal to MP.
I know it's not a big deal for slower computers.
But it is a BIG DEAL to people with faster computers!
I wish I saw this thread before wasting 10 hours on a 300x300 map.
I can envision this already: Come late industrial age, I'll have to raze an AI city on continent A to build a city on continent B!
Or if I want my next city to connect to the rest of my cities (you know, naturally placed....), I'll have to go raze an AI city on the other side of the continent!
Stupid.
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January 31, 2003, 03:34
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Warlord
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Raion,
Where did you get your stats?
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January 31, 2003, 04:19
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Deity
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I would say it is sad, but not stupid. They may have many reasons, but undoubtably one is the impact of all the cities, if they allowed say 1024. If one harbor was destroyed, it would be a very painful calculation to check on all the trades, etc.
Sure makes rexing paramount. I could see making as many cities as possible very close. This will hit the limit sooner and no one can make a new city, until one is razed.
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February 1, 2003, 06:34
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Warlord
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My scenario, uses a 362 x 320 map of earth.
But I'll deal with the limitations and maximums
I would love having over 4096 units, but I'll make due until the release a patch. can u imagine the support for 4000 troops?
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February 1, 2003, 08:26
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Emperor
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hi ,
the limitations help to beat the AI at some levels , .....
just build units , when the mac is achieved the same rule counts for them , ..... they cant have anymore , .....
but what about the barbarians then , ..... 
Firaxis
have a nice day
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