Turn Report 2222-2228

[GeneralTacticus]

Ok, some of the main events (not in any particular order):

1) We finally killed the worm that was bothering TA.

2) NS was invaded by worms 2 twice, and killed them all.

3) We got the Believer's commlink from Deirdre, went to the Planetary Council, and elected oruselves Governor.

4) We discovered Centauri Empathy.

5) Zakharov declared war on us when we refused to give him a tech, and we stole Presentient Algorithms from him.

6) We also stole Synthetic Fossil Fuels from Yang.

Chatlog will follow shortly

EDIT:Apologies for posting this thread in the wrong forum; it was meant to go in ACDG. I've PMed MarkG and asked to ahve it moved, but for now, please ignore it.

EDIT II: 1 final event took place which I forgot to mention: Zanarkand Gate, after having suffered an outbreak of the Promotheus Virus a few turns ago, is now suffering from climatic variations, meaning they get -1 nutrient per square. The only reason it has avoided starvation is the Kelp Farms in the nearby Freshwater Sea.

[GeneralTacticus]

Start of #smacdg buffer: Sat Jan 18 13:29:43 2003
* Now talking in #smacdg
Mania^gov> Schitterend! :-) Is het goed gegaan?
GT^Commis> Ok, now I've put in the right channel name.
DBTS> ja het ging redelijk
DBTS> hi GT
Mania^gov> hi
GT^Commis> Ok, I think I have all the orders except from TKG.
DBTS> so can we begin?
DBTS> what kind of order do we need of him?>
GT^Commis> Base locations and base names.
Mania^gov> rush orders!
DBTS> oh yes crap base names i can get
Mania^gov> Which of the hurries will be granted?
GT^Commis> He approved mine and Voltaire's, and he said he'dget back to you.
Mania^gov> Which he didn't. :-( Where did he approve yours and Voltaires?
GT^Commis> In the orders thread.
Mania^gov> Thanks. :-) I'll have a look.
DBTS> next base name is cyclops
Mania^gov> Oh well... Any idea what to do now?
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GT^Commis> Hi Drogue.
DBTS> well base locations wont be that hard right let me boot up the sav
Drogue> Hello
DBTS> hi drog
Drogue> brb, gotta go for a sec. See you in 5 minutes
Mania^gov> ok
DBTS> io got the sav in front of me lets see how many CPs we got
Mania^gov> 1+3
DBTS> currently we have one active CP in (11.113) somewhere south of NT
DBTS> i would say send it to (7.119)
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GT^Commis> I beleive it was intended to found another base somewhere SE of Xanadu, but I have no idea where.
Mania^gov> I to (9.117). :-) I don't think it was polled though. :-(
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DBTS> i wont go for 9.117
DBTS> you can bring it in proximity of a nutrients and a monolith if you put it in 7.119
* Drog|DEI| is now known as Drog|DeiG
Drog|DeiG> what are you talking about?
Mania^gov> Also on 9.117 ;-)
Mania^gov> Plus it will have more land in its radius
Drog|DeiG> Is this about the new base in akiria
Mania^gov> yep
Mania^gov> Where do you want it? :-) Or was it polled?
Drog|DeiG> go for the square with the sea nutrients, and the monlith
DBTS> ah me not paying attetion
Drog|DeiG> no idea about poll, but i had a look earlier, and i no the best spot
Mania^gov> 9.117 or 7.119?
Mania^gov> Drogue?
DBTS> i agree with maniac proposol of 9.117
Mania^gov> Thanks. :-)
Drog|DeiG> lemme have a look, looked earlier, forgot
Drog|DeiG> brb
DBTS> drog you pingout in apolyton
GT^Commis> The CP is currently going to 10,114.
Drog|DeiG> 9 , 117
DBTS> send it to 9.117 it will be drogue base anyways
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Drog|DeiG> It has lkess problems with Xanadu
DBTS> hi herc
herc2> Hello guys
Drog|DeiG> hey herc
DBTS> 1kess?
GT^Commis> Hi.
herc2> So whats happening
Mania^gov> Hi Hercules. Have you got time for a question?
herc2> Yes
DBTS> yes and that is way i proposed 7.119 but 9.117 is better because of the landmass
Mania^gov> Do you approve of my order requests for you? The two unit rehomings?
GT^Commis> Oh, and can I move that unit in Antioch down to attack the worms???
herc2> yes
Mania^gov> trance scout skirmisher rehomed to terminal Dogma and police infantry moved and rehomed to UN
Criminal Tribunal? (what's its new name?)
DBTS> cyclops
herc2> yippee
DBTS> blah i still say we attack morgan
Drog|DeiG> Blah to DBTS
Drog|DeiG> whees cyclops?
Drog|DeiG> where's
Mania^gov> In Jedinica!! :-p ;-)
DBTS> if you look at the polls cyclops is the first name to be used
Mania^gov> I would have liked it called Shangri La, but TKG didn't include that name in his poll. :-(
GT^Commis> Herc: What should be done with the Plasma Garrison that just got built in NT? Hold?
DBTS> me sees a war between the hive and the univerisity in the near future
Drog|DeiG> I wanted cyclops as the new base about to found in Akiria
GT^Commis> Maniac: So UNCT should be renamed Cyclops?
herc2> If there's a new base due in Drogues region I 'd prefer cyclops there
Drog|DeiG> No!!!
herc2> no
Drog|DeiG> Cyclops needs to be Hercs base
GT^Commis> DBTS: There's one already going on.
GT^Commis> Drogue: Fine by me.
Drog|DeiG> the one we talked about earlier
Mania^gov> What's the second name option.
DBTS> oh ok
Mania^gov> Besides Cyclops?
herc2> re NT plasma yes hold
Drog|DeiG> NT?
Drog|DeiG> which NT?
GT^Commis> New Tassagrad.
DBTS> havent looked alot of names got 4 and cyclops got 5 and i cant open apolyton right now
GT^Commis> Where's the other one?
DBTS> which other one?
Drog|DeiG> lemme have a look
GT^Commis> DBTS: You gave orders for the former SE of Xanadu to move SE and then farm & solar, but wouldn't ti
be better to do it right where it is?
herc2> herc wheels out the ancient history books and epic poems for their new home
Mania^gov> Damn it. I can't seem to find the base name thread and TKG hasn't updated the directory. Does anyone
know on what page the thread is?
GT^Commis> Which one? The poll?
DBTS> GT i have two there one will solar farm and the other something else right?
Mania^gov> Found it already. :-)
Mania^gov>
Drog|DeiG> http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=74153
DBTS> if not go for it
Drog|DeiG> base name thread
Drog|DeiG> loads of option
Drog|DeiG> s
GT^Commis> DBTS: Oh, yes, you do. My mistake.
Drog|DeiG> Ankh-Morporkh wouldbe good IMO
Drog|DeiG> for Jedinica
DBTS> ok by me
GT^Commis> Yes, we have no less than four choices here.
Mania^gov> Ok. Walhalla has four votes. May I propose that becomes the Jedinican base name. Then Cyclops can go
to Akria.
Mania^gov> What does Ankh-Morporkh mean??
DBTS> i will be abstain in this debate i dont care
GT^Commis> Maniac: It's from the Discworld.
Mania^gov> But as long as it doesn't become Lemmy's Laboratory I'm fine with any name. ;-)
Mania^gov> I see.
GT^Commis> If Maniac Maniac wants the base to be called Valhalla, then Valhalla it shall be.
DBTS> ok
Mania^gov> Thanks.
DBTS> we have 230 councel vote we can become councel leader with out any other help i think
Mania^gov> true
GT^Commis> Yup.
GT^Commis> I've been saying that for ages.
DBTS> ok any other problem that need to be adressed?
Mania^gov> Yes, what rush requests of Jedinica will be granted please?
Drog|DeiG> I have some rushs if possible, not stright away, but for one next turn, on ethe turn after,a nd one
the turn after that (to save costs, all different bases)
DBTS> how much is it in total? (the rush)
GT^Commis> Maniac: If it was up to me, I'd approve 'em.
GT^Commis> DBTS: For Maniac? A little over 200.
Mania^gov> Will we vote on them?
GT^Commis> All of them at once, or seperately.
GT^Commis> ?
Mania^gov> First all together, and if that fails, apart??
DBTS> GT approve i aprove
herc2> seperately
DBTS> i voted for the guy so why not and apart is ok by me
GT^Commis> I think Maniac ahs the better idea.
Drog|DeiG> Ok... Mine will cost 41 ec to rush a SC in Twin Peaks in 2 turns, 66ec to rush a CC in NT next turn,
and 41 ec to rush a SC in Aurora in 3 turns
GT^Commis> No need tov toe seperately if they're all approved together.
Drog|DeiG> Twin Peaks needs it, it is small, and needs to develop, which will atke ages at 3 min per turn
Drog|DeiG> Aurora has much to build, and needs a new SC ASAP
herc2> oh alright
DBTS> i dont any rushes this sessions! i will ask for some next time
GT^Commis> Drogue: We'll vote on Maniac's, and then on yours.
Drog|DeiG> New Tassagrad has many buildings to build, we have much money, and the CC will be a lot of help for it
Drog|DeiG> Ok
Mania^gov> Sheathed Sword network node: 84 ec to prevent drone riot - Valhalla rec tanks 54 ec in a few turns -
(pushing the limit) Concordia tree farm 150 ec
DBTS> the first two i agree the last no
Drog|DeiG> i agree on all
herc2> tree farm not yet
DBTS> GT?
Drog|DeiG> 150 is not too much for an essencialbit of kit
GT^Commis> Maniac: Would you mid if I shaved a few ECs of to make sure no minerals would be wasted carrying over?
GT^Commis> Okay. First poll: Maniac's request. 1 = approve, 2 = disapprove, 3 = abstain.
* GT^Commis votes 1
Mania^gov> I alreadu did so. :-)
Mania^gov> Oh you mean the first ten?
Mania^gov> Fine by me.
GT^Commis> Yes.
Drog|DeiG> 1
* Mania^gov 1
* DBTS 1 to the first two
* GT^Commis carried.
herc2> o first 2
herc2> 1
GT^Commis> Drogue: could you please repeat your request for Akiria?
* Mania^gov carried = ?
GT^Commis> It means the vote passed.
GT^Commis> If that's what you're asking.
GT^Commis> Drogue?
Mania^gov> Thanks for the explanation. :-)
Drog|DeiG> Mine will cost 41 ec to rush a SC in Twin Peaks in 2 turns, 66ec to rush a CC in NT next turn, and 41
ec to rush a SC in Aurora in 3 turns
GT^Commis> Second poll: Drogue's request. 1 = approve, 2 = disapprove, 3 = abstain.
* GT^Commis 1
Drog|DeiG> 1
* DBTS 1
herc2> ok by me
* Mania^gov 1 of course
GT^Commis> Passed.
Drog|DeiG> my thanks to al
Drog|DeiG> all*
Mania^gov> the favour returned ;-)
GT^Commis> Ok, anything else that needs to be resolved from you?
DBTS> can i ask for one rush then?
Drog|DeiG> go on
herc2> yes
GT^Commis> Where, of what, and for how much?
DBTS> networknode in DEM for 116
DBTS> or over two turn for less
herc2> ok
Drog|DeiG> too much
Drog|DeiG> go for less
Drog|DeiG> ovr 2 turns
DBTS> then rush in 2 turns
Mania^gov> I'm fine with it.
herc2> yes ok
GT^Commis> I'd say rush it in a turn or two.
GT^Commis> It will be much cheaper then.
DBTS> me agree
DBTS> that all from me
DBTS> for*
GT^Commis> Drogue: Where should the probe skimship in TBIBTU go?
GT^Commis> IT infiltrated the Spartans.
DBTS> my computer is acting strange if i leace i will get back as soon as i can
DBTS> leave*
DBTS> i would say explor dark stop N of NA
Drog|DeiG> Um... back towards the spartans
Drog|DeiG> No,other side DBTS
Drog|DeiG> Westwards
DBTS> it is in TBIBTU right?
Drog|DeiG> sorry
Drog|DeiG> U mean the Hive?
herc2> maybe it should east towards that black area
Drog|DeiG> It infiltrated the hive?
GT^Commis> No.
Drog|DeiG> then yes, back towards the unexplored area around TBIBTU and NA
GT^Commis> For some reason, it got moved back there afterwards.
DBTS> explor the black spot north of NS
Drog|DeiG> yes
Drog|DeiG> Oh well, seems strange?
* DBTS is now known as DBTS^gov
Drog|DeiG> whatd we get from the spartans?
GT^Commis> You realize there's an IoD luking around there?
GT^Commis> Infiltration.
DBTS^gov> almost death
herc2> yes but is it not damaged
GT^Commis> But ti could still kill a probe.
DBTS^gov> it is 70% damaged it wont attack
Drog|DeiG> let it go there
Drog|DeiG> Ill risk it
GT^Commis> Are you willing to bet a probe on that?
GT^Commis> Oh well.
DBTS^gov> lol
Drog|DeiG> although.. herc might want to give it a trance upgrade ?
GT^Commis> On your head be it.
herc2> great idea
Drog|DeiG> Well, on a 70% damaged one, yes
Drog|DeiG> thanks herc
GT^Commis> D+It's a probe.
GT^Commis> It can't be given Trance.
Drog|DeiG> what does that mean GT?
GT^Commis> It's incapable of defending itself.
Drog|DeiG> :S, oh well, how much morale has it got?
GT^Commis> Hardened, but as I keep saying, it's a probe, it cannot defend itself.
Drog|DeiG> Oh yes... sorry
Drog|DeiG> forgot that bit
Drog|DeiG> Hmmmm...
DBTS^gov> it atleast can explot a bit of the black spot
Drog|DeiG> well, we have 2 on that side, so might as well risk it
herc2> our probe will stick in the fungas
Drog|DeiG> good idea Herc
DBTS^gov> so the IOD has only 2 moves it is not a threat
Drog|DeiG> yes, lets go for it
GT^Commis> Ok. Just some other news: we should be able to infiltrate the University next turn.
GT^Commis> Fianlly.
GT^Commis> Finally.
DBTS^gov> yay
herc2> alays wanted to go to uni
herc2> always
Drog|DeiG>
Mania^gov> I'll set up an exchange program for the Terminal Dogma students. :-)
Drog|DeiG> I'll set up a cultural exchange from Aurora
DBTS^gov> lol are they recoverd from the worm attack?
DBTS^gov> i will open pizza places from UNPD
herc2> have we got such a programme underway in Akiria, beat me to it
Drog|DeiG> Ohh.. sorry, I forgot, thats your department
GT^Commis> DBTS: What worm attack?
Drog|DeiG> we will have soon, if you like
DBTS^gov> a long time ago
GT^Commis> Maniac: Those Librarians have made PAndemonium the base witht he biggest lab output.
Drog|DeiG> At the moment were undertaking Akiria in pictures and words, with two well known photographers and
poets
Mania^gov> GT: I know. Now I can brag in the Jedinica Vrijstaat thread. ;-)
GT^Commis> Bah.
Drog|DeiG>
GT^Commis> You'll lose bragging rights when I have those boreholes done.
DBTS^gov> ha biggest enegry supply and psyh both from UNPD :P
Mania^gov> Why do you think I voted against them? :-D
Drog|DeiG> We all know why i voted against them
Drog|DeiG> did they both get through?
herc2> and me
GT^Commis> DBTS: Psych isn't much to brag of, it just means you eed Doctors.
GT^Commis> Drogue: Yes.
GT^Commis> So did Voltaire's.
DBTS^gov> GT really? damn
DBTS^gov> well then i will brag about the energy reserves
Mania^gov> Governors and regions were a really good idea.
Drog|DeiG> definatly
Drog|DeiG> I now have Majors too
DBTS^gov> GT about that can u change on of the docters in UNPD to a forestworker? i have enough talents
Mania^gov> I sent a PM to Pande and Kirov. Still waiting for an answer. cute:
GT^Commis> I can change them both, if you like. The base won't riot.
DBTS^gov> if both please
herc2> I am looking forward to one: a sea region, and hellinic ideal like the cycliades or whatever
DBTS^gov> isnt equal the same as riot?
DBTS^gov> if you have equal talents and drones they dont riot.....somethings changed with the patch
GT^Commis> No.
Drog|DeiG> Maniac... Hmmm.... WHich bases?
GT^Commis> DBTS: No, only if they exceed.
Drog|DeiG> You like stealng my people don't you?
Mania^gov> Kirov to Concordia and Pandemoniak for Pandemonium.
Drog|DeiG> Oh well, I only started it cause I thoughts it was fun, and I wanted STEP to run Akiria collectivly
DBTS^gov> ok now what next?
Mania^gov> They are currently living in Jedinica!! I'm only trying to prevent emigration. :-((
herc2> still might
herc2> united states of Akiria-Troy
DBTS^gov> we aurillions are starting to feel isolated between the STEPs akiria and the big bases of centralis
GT^Commis> Drogue: Should the Eastern laser foil rest for 1 turn to repair?
Drog|DeiG> yes
herc2> yes foil rest
GT^Commis> Right.
Drog|DeiG> But DBTS: Your bases are huge!
GT^Commis> I'm now cantacting Deirdre to askf ro Miriam's commlink.
DBTS^gov> UNPD is
DBTS^gov> oh and DEM an ZG are too...
GT^Commis> She's offering it for 80 ECs.
DBTS^gov> ok!
Drog|DeiG> Ok
herc2> oh yes
GT^Commis> And now she wants us to give her Doctrine:Loyalty for nothing.
GT^Commis> refuse?
Drog|DeiG> Give it
DBTS^gov> refuse
herc2> give it
GT^Commis> Drogue: why?
Mania^gov> refuse
Drog|DeiG> ally
Drog|DeiG> because shes an ally, and needs it to help against the spartans
Drog|DeiG> our common enemy
Drog|DeiG> and she might go for pact if we do
GT^Commis> Okay, quickpoll: 1 = give, 2 = refuse, 3 = abstain
DBTS^gov> she isnt an ally
herc2> She will deliver
Mania^gov> Are we allied to her?
Drog|DeiG> overall, small price IMO
Drog|DeiG> we have a treaty
herc2> 1
DBTS^gov> 2
Drog|DeiG> 1
GT^Commis> 2
* Mania^gov 2
Drog|DeiG> damn
DBTS^gov> that is refuse
GT^Commis> Nothing ahppened except for her complaining a bit.
Drog|DeiG> but we give to morgan
Mania^gov>
Drog|DeiG> :sulk:
DBTS^gov> morgan is on our land
herc2> send flowers
DBTS^gov> ask for pact
Drog|DeiG> she is powerful
Drog|DeiG> not yet
GT^Commis> Ok, now, we want a PAct, don't we?
Drog|DeiG> go for pacts once we have green
Mania^gov> won't work unless we're green
DBTS^gov> pact will work i think
Drog|DeiG> if wed given it, then yes, but now, no
Mania^gov> indeed - don't try earlier
GT^Commis> Adam said to gof ro a Pact anyway.
Drog|DeiG> ok, try then
DBTS^gov> listen to adam
herc2> don't try
DBTS^gov> try
Drog|DeiG> do what he says, hes DSE
GT^Commis> She refused, but ti doesn't seem to have had any negative effects.
Drog|DeiG> ok
Drog|DeiG> what state is she at/
DBTS^gov> ok better luck next time
Drog|DeiG> ?
GT^Commis> Now, on to miriam.
herc2> should have given
DBTS^gov> planetary councel yay
Drog|DeiG> planetary council without Adam?
Mania^gov> No use waiting.
DBTS^gov> no next session with orders from adam
GT^Commis> He gave orders on that too.
herc2> I don't think he argue
DBTS^gov> oh ok then plan councel
DBTS^gov> `but first miriam
GT^Commis> Anywya, with Morgan, we have an absolute majority.
GT^Commis> Well, Miriam's seething.
GT^Commis> Not a good start.
DBTS^gov>
GT^Commis> She wants us to attack the University.
Drog|DeiG> Sod her then
herc2> expected that
GT^Commis> No way.
DBTS^gov> no
herc2> no
Drog|DeiG> no
Mania^gov> err... no?
DBTS^gov> lol
GT^Commis> Now she wants superconductor.
GT^Commis> bullcrap.
herc2> no
DBTS^gov> no
GT^Commis> Ok, we can now:
GT^Commis> 1) Ask her to stop attackin gthe Uni.
GT^Commis> 2) Try for a treaty.
herc2> 2
DBTS^gov> 2
GT^Commis> 2
Drog|DeiG> neither
DBTS^gov> treaty will give of commerce
GT^Commis> Well, she (predictably) refused, and ended the conversation.
GT^Commis> On to the Council.
DBTS^gov> petty
DBTS^gov> yay
Drog|DeiG> Yay
GT^Commis> Okay, no need for bribes here.
DBTS^gov> then dont who votes for yang?
GT^Commis> Yang voted for himself, Morgan for us, and no-one else gives a damn either way.
DBTS^gov>
GT^Commis> So, we win.
DBTS^gov> yay
Drog|DeiG> yay
GT^Commis> I never thought I'd find a use for the Governor's automatic infiltration.
GT^Commis> Now we can look through Miriam's intelligence files without using a probe.
DBTS^gov> lol lets look in to deirdes bathroom.....eh oh yes of cour miriam intell files
herc2> mass chhering acrrosss faction
DBTS^gov> we will lose them if we dont say plan gov
herc2> cheering
DBTS^gov> stay
DBTS^gov> ok what next?

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GT^Commis> Okay, it seems she is on the Isle of Deianira, and most of her bases are sea bases.
DBTS^gov> ok herc lets build up the fleets
GT^Commis> btw, our income just sky-rocketed.
GT^Commis> From all the extra commerce.
DBTS^gov> yes commerce +1
DBTS^gov> that is a lot will get the tech much sooner now
Drog|DeiG>
herc2> well lets build defence and defensive navy base and the odd attacking unit
Drog|DeiG> I concur
herc2> what did we get from Yang again?
Drog|DeiG> my absolute pacifism extends only to the reasonable :kill:
DBTS^gov> lol
DBTS^gov> ok GT where are we in time and stuff
GT^Commis> Ok, we have a problem from Voltaire: He wants to switch the transport foil in NS to rec commons.
herc2> also bye the way who's recording the turnchat. Did I miss that decision. Or can it be recorded in chunks
GT^Commis> DBTS: still 2222.
GT^Commis> Herc: Me, Maniac or DBTs.
DBTS^gov> i can record it
Drog|DeiG> But it has only 1 turn left GT?
DBTS^gov> GT tanks
DBTS^gov> does he give a reason?
GT^Commis> Drogue: yes. And we've been waiting for it for ages.
Drog|DeiG> I no, I ordered it ages ago
GT^Commis> DBTS: No.
GT^Commis> So, let's vote on overriding it.
Drog|DeiG> I think TKGs will overrides Voltaires, but if you want to change, we have at least infiltrated the
university
herc2> with all that income
GT^Commis> 1 = override, 2 = don't.
DBTS^gov> 3
Drog|DeiG> 2
Drog|DeiG> sorry 1
herc2> 2
Drog|DeiG> transport
GT^Commis> 1
GT^Commis> Tie.
GT^Commis> Or not.
Mania^gov> I haven't got a clue what you're taking about. Ignore me.
Drog|DeiG> no, 2 for 1, 1 for 2
GT^Commis> Repoll.
DBTS^gov> 3
Drog|DeiG> override what?
herc2> i would like transport
Drog|DeiG> original or voltaire?
GT^Commis> 1 = Stay as transport, 2 = switch tor ec commons, 3 = abstain.
DBTS^gov> 3
herc2> 1
Drog|DeiG> 1
Mania^gov> with one turn still to go for the transport?? 1
DBTS^gov> passed
GT^Commis> 1.
herc2> DBTS will you record
DBTS^gov> i try
herc2> back in 5
Mania^gov> Damn I thought I was logging already for an hour, but I can't find the file. :-(
DBTS^gov> i log afterward
* Retrieving #smacdg info...
Mania^gov> What year are we btw?
DBTS^gov> 2222
GT^Commis> still 2222.
Mania^gov> wow
GT^Commis> All that diplomatic stuff and polling took a while.
Mania^gov> Indeed
GT^Commis> Drogue: the crawler SW of NT is convoying minerals, not nutrients. Which crawler do you want to move?
Drog|DeiG> There is too there
Drog|DeiG> two*
Drog|DeiG> the one crawling nutrients, on the square I gave
Drog|DeiG> the directions are only to show which part of the map, the reference is what I would go by
Drog|DeiG> on the square with the farm/solar
Drog|DeiG> where the worker is to be moved too
GT^Commis> Ah, just noticed it.
Drog|DeiG> Thanks
Drog|DeiG> On Voltaires orders, he wanted to complete the (23,105) terraforming before he let me use it, but why
does he want a farm there, it isnt inside a base area
GT^Commis> 2222 complete.
DBTS^gov> :S just let him be
DBTS^gov> yay
Drog|DeiG> yay
herc2> yay
DBTS^gov> we are in 2223 yay again! right?
DBTS^gov> what has happend?
GT^Commis> nothing catastrophic.
DBTS^gov> yay
Drog|DeiG> anything??
GT^Commis> Between turns? Some forest expanded, that's all.
GT^Commis> And the worms near TA still aren't moving.
GT^Commis> I think we've pinned them down for now.
Drog|DeiG> Hmmm but they can attack crawlers right?
DBTS^gov> they have trance so no biggy
GT^Commis> No.
GT^Commis> The crawlers nearby have armour & trance, like DBTS said.
GT^Commis> And we're moving some more troops into position to finsih them off.
herc2> re moves: what about some of those other foils
GT^Commis> We just infiltrated the uni, and it seems they've given up on the Empath Guild.
DBTS^gov> yay
Drog|DeiG> big yay
Drog|DeiG> start building it as soonn as we can
Drog|DeiG> trade for techs?
Drog|DeiG> they have orders herc
herc2> the probes have bur the laser
herc2> but*
GT^Commis> Zakh has CE and Advanced Miltiary Algorithms.
Mania^gov> Why the Empath Guild. We've got infiltration on everyone, and we have enough votes on our own.
GT^Commis> Contact him & ask to trade?
herc2> ys
DBTS^gov> es
GT^Commis> Maniac: So we can win more easily, and to keep anyone else from getting it.
DBTS^gov> yes to talk
GT^Commis> He wants us to attack the Beleivers.
DBTS^gov> THE aurillion province would be honoured to build such a project
DBTS^gov> say no
herc2> not surprised but no
GT^Commis> He wants us to give him nonliner mathematics; we can ask for AAA in return.
Drog|DeiG> say yes
Drog|DeiG> i thought we werre at war already?
Drog|DeiG> ask for it
GT^Commis> with Miriam? No.
GT^Commis> He says he can't trust us with it.
Drog|DeiG> and were seething with the believers, we'll be at war very soon, whatever we do
herc2> good swap
GT^Commis> He refused.
Drog|DeiG> then say no
Drog|DeiG> freedom of information and all
GT^Commis>
GT^Commis> He just declared war, for some strange reason.
Drog|DeiG> oh he'slike that
Drog|DeiG> he'll calm down soon
GT^Commis> Now, about Cyclops: we were going to build it at 9,117, weren't we?
Drog|DeiG> yes
GT^Commis> Ok.
GT^Commis> DBTS: About the EG, I've already got plans to build it in TA.
DBTS^gov> cool just build the best base i ever build 2 mineral bonuses 1 enegry bonus 1 nutrient bonus river and
a monolith...yay more me
GT^Commis> It will be built faster there.
DBTS^gov> oh ok
Drog|DeiG> where DBTS?
DBTS^gov> my own game
Drog|DeiG> DBTS, isnt that in Aurillion
Drog|DeiG> GT sorry
Drog|DeiG> doesnt DBST have to want that?
DBTS^gov> am i missiong something?
Drog|DeiG> the EG
Drog|DeiG> in TA
GT^Commis> Eh?
Drog|DeiG> isnt TA in Aurillion?
DBTS^gov> TA is centralis
Drog|DeiG> ok sorry
Drog|DeiG> my bad
herc2> maybe another base should have the honour
GT^Commis> Now, NS has finally built that tansport foil, now what do we with it?
DBTS^gov> lets debate about that on the forum
GT^Commis> Bring along a probe to steal University tech?
Drog|DeiG> pput the probe teams on board, and steal tech from the university
Drog|DeiG> yes
GT^Commis> Noth of them?
GT^Commis> Both?
herc2> both, but dangerous
Drog|DeiG> yes both
GT^Commis> Not if we're careful.
DBTS^gov> both
GT^Commis> Hang on, I think we should delay leaving 'till that IoD goes away.
GT^Commis> IT's very close by.
DBTS^gov> agreed
herc2> yay
Drog|DeiG> yes
Drog|DeiG> or move around?
herc2> it could just squeeze it
GT^Commis> Not without being attacked next turn.
GT^Commis> Anyway, we're now only 1 turn away from reaching Labourer's Throng.
DBTS^gov> yay
herc2> at last
herc2> though to think about Labourer's thong can not be that pleasant
DBTS^gov>
GT^Commis> 2223 complete.
GT^Commis> Okay, this is not good.
DBTS^gov> yay again (dont have anything else to say)
Drog|DeiG> what??
GT^Commis> The Hive just took Okreatia-Discovery from the Uni, mindworms have invaded near NS, and DEM is
rioting.
GT^Commis> Time to rush that Node, I'd say.
Drog|DeiG> Yes
herc2> yes
GT^Commis> DBTS?
Drog|DeiG> NS??? How?? :O
GT^Commis> Can I use some specialists tk calm the place down while they build the node?
herc2> yes
GT^Commis> Drogue: OF that IoD.
GT^Commis> off
GT^Commis> It's just worms, not the Hive.
DBTS^gov> rush
GT^Commis> done.
GT^Commis> Now, can anyone find the poll on where to build those seabases?
Drog|DeiG> Yes i no,but ti thought it could defend itself
Drog|DeiG> yes
GT^Commis> The first sea colony pod just got built.
Drog|DeiG> http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=69367
DBTS^gov> i has to be build in the FWsea
DBTS^gov> there was a poll about that ones
GT^Commis> Drogue: yes of coruse it can, but that doesn't make it good.
Drog|DeiG> are, just invaded hew: thought thed actually reduced pop
GT^Commis> DBTS: I know, I wanted to know where in the FWS.
herc2> there are to be two bases?
Drog|DeiG> thats the poll about the bases
Drog|DeiG> yes two bases
Drog|DeiG> that poll GT
GT^Commis> thanks.
Drog|DeiG> build 1st on on brown
GT^Commis> Well, DBTS has the honour of building the first seabase
herc2> clap applause
Drog|DeiG> yay
Drog|DeiG> and I control it
DBTS^gov> yay for me
GT^Commis> HO, and something else: The worms near TA attacked the unit being sent to kill them, and lost.
GT^Commis> Oh
GT^Commis> rather
DBTS^gov> unyay for drog :P
herc2> party on
herc2> the worms lost?
herc2> lost my upgrade
Drog|DeiG> Whats the name of the base
Drog|DeiG> if it hasnt got one, can we call it azibi?
Drog|DeiG> for the monent anyway
Drog|DeiG> until we can poll
GT^Commis> Er, Drogue, it hasn't been built yet.
GT^Commis> It will be next turn.
herc2> prob Metropolis or erregion
GT^Commis> No, I still have a list of seabase names.
GT^Commis> Does anybody remember if we decided to allow the crawler upgrade trick at the start of the game?
Drog|DeiG> Ok, whats next on the list?
GT^Commis> Er, my question above.
Drog|DeiG> I would go for a no
GT^Commis> Maniac? DBTS?
DBTS^gov> no
GT^Commis> No you don't remember, or no it wasn't allowed?
herc2> no
herc2> why dowe need it
DBTS^gov> i say no not allowed
Mania^gov> NO it wasn't allowed.
GT^Commis> I have 1 more crawler than I can use outside TA, and I'm wondering if it would be allowed to cash in
the upgraded one for the EG.
GT^Commis> I guess I'll just have to use it for for the next borehole
Mania^gov> Anyway guys, I'm leaving. There's a movie I'm watching and it's kind of hard to divide my attention.

GT^Commis> Ok. bye.
DBTS^gov> later
Mania^gov> see ya
* Mania^gov has left #smacdg
herc2> Ok bye
GT^Commis> Ok, we're just about to steal tech from Labourer's Throng.
Drog|DeiG> yay SFF
herc2> sff
DBTS^gov> ...?
DBTS^gov> what is it?
GT^Commis> SFF
GT^Commis>
DBTS^gov> yay
herc2> good one
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GT^Commis> And our probe got away & got upgraded to commando.
GT^Commis> hi TKG.
Drog|DeiG> TKG finally here
Drog|DeiG> get my PM?
DBTS^gov> now we can really kick morgans butt if we wished
GT^Commis> We just got SFF
TKGDIA> sorry, nope
herc2> hi tKG
* DBTS^gov slaps TKG
DBTS^gov> hi
* Drog|DeiG slaps TKGDIA around a bit with a large trout
TKGDIA> i just assumed saturday
Drog|DeiG> likewise
DBTS^gov> i dont assume
GT^Commis> It would have been, but we're leaving again, and I didn't want a repeat of last time that ahppened.
TKGDIA> then i read the orders thread "is there a turnchat now, or did i read that wrong?"
herc2> I read it carefully
TKGDIA> and said "****"
GT^Commis> Anyway, now we have SFF, which means missiles and FUNGICIDE
DBTS^gov> lol
TKGDIA>
TKGDIA> have we founded UNMI yet?
GT^Commis> Not quite.
TKGDIA> not quite?
GT^Commis> Next turn.
GT^Commis> Herc: Can I flame the worms outside NS?
TKGDIA> only 1 turn played?
Drog|DeiG> is it UNMI?
GT^Commis> Odds are 3 to 2, in our favour.
Drog|DeiG> not the southern one is it?
TKGDIA> un marine institute, iirc
TKGDIA> red first. the northern
GT^Commis> TKG: we're in the middle of 2224.
Drog|DeiG> OK, UNMI is nothern
Drog|DeiG> southern I want to be azibi but i think we have to use another
GT^Commis> TKG: Damn. I sent the pod to the southern one.
TKGDIA> S S SE of NA
GT^Commis> Hang on.
TKGDIA> which one? brown?
GT^Commis> Do you mean UNMI is to be northern, the first seabase is to be northern, or both?
TKGDIA> both
GT^Commis> The pod is at the brown one.
TKGDIA> meh. go for it then
GT^Commis> Herc: so can I flame the worms?
Drog|DeiG> Yes
GT^Commis> Herc?
* GT^Commis slaps herc over the head with a large trout.
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Drog|DeiG> yes
herc3> back
DBTS^gov> just flame them already
Drog|DeiG> Herc, attack worm or not?
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herc3> yes
GT^Commis> Okay, that should pay for at elast 1 of Drogue's rushes.
Drog|DeiG> what should?
Drog|DeiG> oh the worms
Drog|DeiG> have you don ethat one last turn I asked?
TKGDIA> drug had rushes? hmm i didn't see any...
GT^Commis> Now, can I send the probe skimship that infiltrated the Uni back to steal tech?
* TKGDIA looks
GT^Commis> TKG: He asked for some before you arrived.
Drog|DeiG> No, you were'nt here earlier TKG
Drog|DeiG>
GT^Commis> Drogue?
Drog|DeiG> only 40-60 odd credits
GT^Commis> The probeship?
TKGDIA> that's fine
Drog|DeiG> yes
TKGDIA> i think maniac had a rush of a net node in sheathed sword
Drog|DeiG> did u do the rush I asked for last turn (2223)?
TKGDIA> if i didn't approve it i meant to
Drog|DeiG> or the one for this one?
GT^Commis> Drogue: the CC in NT? No. I forgot. Did it this turn.
herc3> what techs has uni got we need
GT^Commis> Oh, and there's a pod 1 south of the other probe skimship. pop?
GT^Commis> Herc: CE and AAA.
Drog|DeiG> yes
herc3> many turns left
Drog|DeiG> yes how many turns sorry
GT^Commis> f*cking hell.
GT^Commis> Antoher IoD.
Drog|DeiG> IoD?
Drog|DeiG> oh well
Drog|DeiG> run
TKGDIA>
Drog|DeiG> if we can
TKGDIA> iods=pia
Drog|DeiG> GT: did you do the rush for this turn. The SC in Twin Peaks?
GT^Commis> I thinkw e're going to need some Empath Skimships pretty soon.
GT^Commis> Drogue: yes.
TKGDIA> did you get the rush of net node in sheathed sword?
TKGDIA> and i think there was a tree farm in concordia
herc3> we need to build up the navy
TKGDIA> pfft
TKGDIA>
TKGDIA> concordia's not coastal anyways, but if you need the credits...
herc3> put empath skimships and missle what evers in the design workshop
TKGDIA> we can cut back on rushing if necessary. i just think concorida needs the tree farm, and sheathed sword
will riot
TKGDIA> without net node
GT^Commis> SS has the net node.
GT^Commis> It's already been rushed.
Drog|DeiG> We already voted for the concordian tree farm too
Drog|DeiG> yes, been doen
TKGDIA>
GT^Commis> Oh, and soemthing else you aren't aware of: we're Planetary Governor.
TKGDIA> i thought i approved it, but i guess i didn't
TKGDIA> oh goodie
GT^Commis> Commerce just about doubled our income.
TKGDIA> infiltrators
TKGDIA> oh and income...
herc3> what tech does uni have that we need
Drog|DeiG> CE
GT^Commis> Herc: I told you, CE and AAA.
herc3> sorry missed it
TKGDIA> AAA=g0od
DBTS^gov> slap me if needed
TKGDIA> ...
* TKGDIA slaps DBTS around a bit with a large bunny
* Drog|DeiG slaps TKGDIA around a bit with a large trout
Drog|DeiG> for the sheer hell of it
Drog|DeiG>
* TKGDIA shrugs
GT^Commis> f*ck.
TKGDIA> what now
Drog|DeiG>
GT^Commis> I just tried to move one of Manaic's former N intot he fungus, and worms popped up.
TKGDIA> un-yay
GT^Commis> Can I upgrade it to armour + trance?
DBTS^gov> wormS like in plurar?
GT^Commis> no, singluar.
Drog|DeiG> just trance needed?
herc3> ys
Drog|DeiG> why armour?
GT^Commis> no, it needs armour AND trance.
GT^Commis> It's non-combat unless armoured.
Drog|DeiG> ok, synthmetal then
GT^Commis> TKG? Herc?
TKGDIA> oo, clever
Drog|DeiG> but Scout patrols are unarmoured and combat?
TKGDIA> erm what?
herc3> whatever it takes
TKGDIA> why not just move it away?
TKGDIA> scout partols are attack units drug
TKGDIA> kinda
GT^Commis> Drogue: Yes, but they have guns.
GT^Commis> TKG: because there's another former there with no movement.
Drog|DeiG> armour+t then
herc3> go for it
TKGDIA> ah
TKGDIA> sure, how much is it? not too much i hope
GT^Commis> btw, what should be done wit the extra police infantry in Pandemonium?
TKGDIA> 20? 30?
GT^Commis> TKG: 70.
TKGDIA>
TKGDIA> what do you mean, "extra"
GT^Commis> MAniac order the building of two more, in addition to the one already there.
GT^Commis> ordered.
TKGDIA> send it to sheathed sword and have it escort the pods from there soon
GT^Commis> oops, it's in Sheathed Sword.
GT^Commis> alreayd.
Drog|DeiG> GT: no idea
* TKGDIA has quit IRC
GT^Commis> I got them mixed up.
GT^Commis> Oh well, cans till be done.
* Drog|DeiG is now known as Drg|DEI|G
GT^Commis> 2224 complete.
Drg|DEI|G> gd gd
GT^Commis> Some bad news: ZG is suffering from climatic variances and gets - nut per square for 10 years.
GT^Commis> -1.
Drg|DEI|G> is it starving?
DBTS^gov> damn
DBTS^gov> it also had the blblaa virus
GT^Commis> don't know, haven't chacked.
GT^Commis> DBTS: That place is cursed.
DBTS^gov> if not just let it be for now
DBTS^gov>
GT^Commis> Okay, another problem: Concordia is rioting.
GT^Commis> I'm using a doctor for now.
Drg|DEI|G> gd idea
GT^Commis> Also, we've had another worm invasion near NS.
Drg|DEI|G> oh well, lets get an empath or two built and over there
GT^Commis> Oh, and NT is now riotiung as well.
herc3> I agree
GT^Commis> And DBTS, ZG IS starving.
Drg|DEI|G> really, it had a talent and no drones last turn :O
Drg|DEI|G> has it got 4 people now?
GT^Commis> yes.
GT^Commis> use doctor?
herc3> you asking me
Drg|DEI|G> use a doctor
Drg|DEI|G> do we have the virtual world?
DBTS^gov> about ZG can you deuse a doctor?
Drg|DEI|G> if so put net node next, before Tree Farm.
GT^Commis> DBTS: No, they're workers, but I can move some onto the Kelp farms.
herc3> do that
GT^Commis> That wook care of matters.
DBTS^gov> ok
GT^Commis> Now we have a surplus again.
Drg|DEI|G> Do we ahve the virtual world???
DBTS^gov> no i think
GT^Commis> Yes we do.
GT^Commis> Why?
herc3> No we don't
GT^Commis> What? Of course we do.
GT^Commis> In NA.
Drg|DEI|G> then build a net node in NT ASAP
Drg|DEI|G> rush it if possible
GT^Commis> Switch from Tree Farm?
Drg|DEI|G> then put tree farm top of build queue
Drg|DEI|G> yes
GT^Commis> Ok.
Drg|DEI|G> how much to rush?
GT^Commis> Cyclops just got built, btw.
GT^Commis> Drogue: dunno, still have to check.
DBTS^gov> yay
herc3> re VW stand corrected
Drg|DEI|G>
GT^Commis> Drogue: way too much. Wait for another turn or two.
herc3> happy days
Drg|DEI|G> Ok,next turn if possible
GT^Commis> The road to Twin Peaks just got finished, now what to with the crawler there?
GT^Commis> Drogue?
herc3> explore south
* GT^Commis slaps Drogue over the ehad with a large trout

[GeneralTacticus]

Drg|DEI|G> sorry
herc3> do you mean former
Drg|DEI|G> crawler?
Drg|DEI|G> it has orders
Drg|DEI|G> wait a sec, lemme find them
GT^Commis> hang, on I've got them.
Drg|DEI|G> Aurora Former (21,109) SE of Aurora, building road to Twin Peaks
Drg|DEI|G> - Finish road to Twin Peaks
Drg|DEI|G> - Move to (21,113)
Drg|DEI|G> - Plant Forest
GT^Commis> what?
GT^Commis> oh well.
Drg|DEI|G> orders
Drg|DEI|G> why?
GT^Commis> They're different form the ones I have.
Drg|DEI|G> really?
Drg|DEI|G> what have you got?
GT^Commis> Oh hang on, you're talking about the former. I'm talking about the crawler.
Drg|DEI|G> what crawler?
Drg|DEI|G> near twin peaks?
Drg|DEI|G> the one we built?
Drg|DEI|G> Twin Peaks Crawler (in Twin Peaks), to be built
Drg|DEI|G> - Move to (20, 112)
Drg|DEI|G> - Convoy Nutrients
GT^Commis> Yes, I've got that.
Drg|DEI|G> ok, sorry
herc3> understand now
Drg|DEI|G> brb (need a drink
DBTS^gov> guys you still need my help me pretty tired and stuff....
GT^Commis> We may, we may not, but if you need to go, go.
GT^Commis> btw, we've just started Planet's first borehole near NA.
DBTS^gov> ok good luck all.....finally i can close my eyes....who loges?
DBTS^gov> logs?
GT^Commis> Me.
DBTS^gov> yay to borehole
DBTS^gov> ok bye bye all
herc3> you
GT^Commis> I've got all the records of the chat proper.
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Drg|DEI|G> I'm back
GT^Commis> Ok, Herc, we have a problem: Two more worms outside NS, and the scout partol is damaged.
GT^Commis> Our odds of beating it are only just better than 50%.
GT^Commis> 81-80, in our favour.
herc3> can we do the upgrade trance routine to any effect
herc3> can we buy time
herc3> against one I assume
GT^Commis> Our odds don''t improve any if we do that, and we have to fight twice.
GT^Commis> there are toww orms.
GT^Commis> two worms.
GT^Commis> I say we just take the risk and attack.
Drg|DEI|G> I concur
herc3> what do you think go for one but that will leave us weakened
GT^Commis> If we kill one, we kill both.
herc3> go for it
GT^Commis> We won.
Drg|DEI|G>
herc3> happy days
GT^Commis> Ok, now what to with the probe that just stole from the Hive?
herc3> where is it now
GT^Commis> TBIBTU.
Drg|DEI|G> have we explored the isles to the eeast of TBIBTU?
GT^Commis> The island witht he land bridge? yes.
herc3> head east but north of the isalnd
herc3> peninsula island thingy
Drg|DEI|G> I'd say steal tech from the university
Drg|DEI|G> we then get CE and AAA
GT^Commis> We have 2 other probe foils that are much closer, though.
herc3> its a while away but ok
Drg|DEI|G> 2 others?
GT^Commis> yes, 2.
Drg|DEI|G> Then lets steal their world map too
GT^Commis> Ok.
GT^Commis> Uh oh.
Drg|DEI|G> what?
GT^Commis> Yang is researching D:AP and will have it in 8 years.
GT^Commis> We can steal it, or we cna beat him to it.
GT^Commis> If we start after CE.
GT^Commis> Which we'll get next turn.
herc3> so how far away are we from D:Ap
GT^Commis> If we start next turn, 6, so we'll beat him by 1.
Drg|DEI|G> steal, and send one probe to him to assassinate researchers if we can do that yet
Drg|DEI|G> sorry, research,a dn assass researchers
herc3> I agrree
Drg|DEI|G> dont steal it
GT^Commis> Can't, the Hive isn't on the coast.
GT^Commis> However, the quesion is, can we override Adam's orders?
Drg|DEI|G> and it needs to be a capitol?
Drg|DEI|G> adams orders to do what>
Drg|DEI|G> ?
Drg|DEI|G> we need a new poll, it wasnt available before
GT^Commis> To research Doctrine:Initiave in this situation.
GT^Commis> And, yes, you can only assassinate researcher sin the HQ.
GT^Commis> Anyway, I would say, that, yes, we can override it in a case like this.
GT^Commis> Incidentally, has anyone noticed that Concordia is actually built on a rocky square?
Drg|DEI|G> I would abstain, I'm not sure, although I think people would vote for it si have no problem withit
herc3> So whats the question
Drg|DEI|G> ok, send the transport with the probe teams on, to the Hive, and assassinate researchers, and use
both lanmd probe teams at hive bases. Send all 3 probe foils to the university
herc3> Thats aggresive for a peace loving guy
herc3> before my time
GT^Commis> Thing is, we can't get out of NS, because there's another IoD there, making two, and we'd be sunk.
GT^Commis> So we need an Empath Foil before we get out.
GT^Commis> I can make one in nTBIBTU, but that will take time.
Drg|DEI|G> before mine too
Drg|DEI|G> Herc: The people asked for a covert war against the hive, and ti is what they shall get
herc3> againast the hive yea against the uni n ot sure
Drg|DEI|G> Im not attackingthe uni, Im stealing their techs, because they refused to trade, and we are at war
Drg|DEI|G> the people said if we are at war, use all force, and stealing tech does not result in violence, so is
not against my pacifism
GT^Commis> Okay, the western laser foil has found a pod in the fungus. pop?
Drg|DEI|G> yep
GT^Commis>
GT^Commis> Sonar pod.
Drg|DEI|G>
herc3> turns left
Drg|DEI|G> cool
Drg|DEI|G> anything interesting?
GT^Commis> Spotted another pod nearby, but nothing else.
Drg|DEI|G> Hmmm, en route or off?
GT^Commis> off.
Drg|DEI|G> leave it then
GT^Commis> 2225 compelte, and I need to go to the toilet.
GT^Commis> brb
herc3> request empath foil
GT^Commis> Where?
GT^Commis> I'm planning to build one in TBIBTU ASAP.
GT^Commis> Ok, we just got CE.
herc3> top?
Drg|DEI|G> stolen or researched?
GT^Commis> researched.
GT^Commis> we're not close enough to the Uni to steal.
Drg|DEI|G> ok
GT^Commis> f*ck.
Drg|DEI|G> what?
Drg|DEI|G> :veryscared:
GT^Commis> D:AP isn't on the list for next tech.
GT^Commis> I guess we'll have to steal it.
GT^Commis> So, no assassination mission in the Hive.
herc3> noby has it
GT^Commis> The Hive will, soon.
Drg|DEI|G> why not just change research
herc3> nobody*
Drg|DEI|G> imsure people would want to
GT^Commis> That won't help; we get the same list.
Drg|DEI|G> same list?
GT^Commis> Unless we steal AAA, then try switching.
GT^Commis> Sam elist of techs to research.
Drg|DEI|G> yes
Drg|DEI|G> still assasssinate research
Drg|DEI|G> ers
GT^Commis> Ok, we'll see.
Drg|DEI|G> its more important that the hive doesnt get it
Drg|DEI|G> and please move the transport, NW is you have to to get around the IoD
Drg|DEI|G> but we need to get there before they research it
GT^Commis> Well, I can't see the IoDs any more, so I'll risk it.
herc3> we also ned to trade quickly in case some friends have discovered tech
GT^Commis> I'm dropping the probes off on the shore enarby, just in case.
GT^Commis> Herc: nope, nobody has it.
herc3> job for DoS
herc3> re transport go with drogue
GT^Commis> Drogue, are you sure you want the Twin Peaks former to crawl nuts from 20,122? There's only 1 nut
there.
Drg|DEI|G> there wont be soon, have a former en route
GT^Commis> Ok.
GT^Commis> What should be done with the two southern scout petaols? They've just been wandering around aimlessly.
GT^Commis> patrols.
herc3> what happened to TKG
herc3> anybody recording this
* Drogue has joined #smacdg
Drogue> sorry, d/c
GT^Commis> Herc: He left.
GT^Commis> And I'm recording this.
herc3> good
* Drg|DEI|G has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
Drogue> GT?
Drogue> Herc?
herc3> yes
GT^Commis> Yes?
Drogue> Ok, I am in here
Drogue> sorry, thought you couldn't hear me
* Drogue is now known as Drg|DEI|G
GT^Commis> One of our probe foils has spotted a pod.
GT^Commis> One of the eastern ones.
GT^Commis> Pop?
GT^Commis> Drogue?
GT^Commis> Hello?
* GT^Commis slaps Drogue
-> [Drg|DEI|G] PING
herc3> you have a wonderful way with names
Drg|DEI|G> me?
Drg|DEI|G> lol
Drg|DEI|G> I cant get Drogue and DEI and Gov on
Drg|DEI|G> GT: Have you done the former for the place where the crawler in Twin Peaks is going
herc3> moves?
Drg|DEI|G> if it has moves left
Drg|DEI|G> Im here, one of us had lag
GT^Commis> Re: the former - it's ont he way.
Drg|DEI|G> thanks
GT^Commis> The probe has 3 moves left.
Drg|DEI|G> pop it
herc3> go
GT^Commis> Ok.
GT^Commis> IT got swept away by a tidal wave, and ended up a lot neaer to the Uni than it was.
Drg|DEI|G> :yay:
Drg|DEI|G> lucky
GT^Commis> It should arrive next turn.
herc3> smile
GT^Commis> Okay, now anothe rone of the probes has found a pod, but it's in the fungus and it'd have no moves
left if it opened it.
herc3> careful
GT^Commis> Also, we're just about to build UN MArine Institute
Drg|DEI|G> the northern one?
GT^Commis> Yes.
Drg|DEI|G> ok
GT^Commis> northern base.
GT^Commis> Now, should we pop the other pod or not?
herc3> wait
Drg|DEI|G> which probe?
GT^Commis> The pod's on 42,82, the probe is 1 south.
Drg|DEI|G> where is that, I cant have the game open and mIRC?
Drg|DEI|G> east?
Drg|DEI|G> near what base?
GT^Commis> Near Mendelev Colelge.
GT^Commis> College.
Drg|DEI|G> dont pop
GT^Commis> The base we're going to steal from.
Drg|DEI|G> wait
GT^Commis> I'd say don't pop.
GT^Commis> Well?
Drg|DEI|G> sorry, didnt u get the message? dont pop
Drg|DEI|G> wait
Drg|DEI|G> wait till next turn
GT^Commis> oh, ok.
GT^Commis> Though you meant you'd changed your mind.
herc3> wait
Drg|DEI|G> sorr, no, better to wait
GT^Commis> Okay, we just stole the Spartan world map at BRC, but unfortunately we lost the probe.
GT^Commis> Now, we need to figure our what to do with the two colony pods being by in SS. One of them's done
already.
* TKGDIA has joined #smacdg
TKGDIA> still here. good
Drg|DEI|G> hey TJG
TKGDIA> ey drug
Drg|DEI|G> TKG*
TKGDIA> whats going on now
Drg|DEI|G> Sheathed Sword GT?
Drg|DEI|G> colony pods in SS
TKGDIA> ****
TKGDIA> gtg again
* TKGDIA has quit IRC
GT^Commis> Oh, you're back.
GT^Commis> f*cking hell.
GT^Commis> I think it can wit until alter.
GT^Commis> later.
GT^Commis> 2226 complete
GT^Commis>
GT^Commis> The Hive just captured University Base.
GT^Commis> Anf NT just Drone Rioted again.
GT^Commis> And
GT^Commis> I used another doctor and I'm rushing the Node.
Drg|DEI|G> thanks
GT^Commis> Ok, one of the southern scout patrols just encountered a worm in the fungus (you still haven't tolf
me what to do with them)
herc3> Re Someone has to inform the next of kin. These were brave boys
GT^Commis> the probe team?
Drg|DEI|G> i posted orders for them
Drg|DEI|G> Scout Patrol[s]: Are they both mine? First Scout Patrol to explore South of Twin Peaks, the
unexplored area. Second Scout Patrol to fortify new base about to be built, near it.
GT^Commis> really? I don't have them. They've pretty mcuh finished exploring down south anyway.
GT^Commis> Oh, thanks.
GT^Commis> Now, should it attack the worm?
GT^Commis> odds are 15 to 8 in our favour.
Drg|DEI|G> yes
herc3> I thought opinion was yes
GT^Commis> We won, got taken down to 70% health.
Drg|DEI|G> thats good
GT^Commis> Ok, the pod we just popped contained some some kelp farms.
Drg|DEI|G> thats ok then
herc3> Do you know with STEP here we have powerful infuence
herc3> influence*
GT^Commis>
Drg|DEI|G> i no
Drg|DEI|G> its great isnt it
GT^Commis> The University si researching Fusion Power.
Drg|DEI|G> and we control all non forming units
Drg|DEI|G> ok, well steal it
Drg|DEI|G> he has crap probes
GT^Commis> He's researching, it he doesn't have it.
GT^Commis> Anyway, we're about to steal something.
Drg|DEI|G> yes, so we can leave a probe near one of his bases, to steal it as soon as he does
herc3> yes
GT^Commis> Ok, we got Presentient Algorithms (before AAA), but we lost the probe.
Drg|DEI|G> thats ok i guess
herc3> it helps
herc3> the P Algor thag is
GT^Commis> Ok, so we need to start working on the HSA.
Drg|DEI|G> ASAP!
GT^Commis> I'll put TA on it, and have NA built the EG.
herc3> yes
Drg|DEI|G> Sounds good
GT^Commis> Okay, the western foil has spotted another pod just south of it, near Cape Storm. Pop?
Drg|DEI|G> probe or non probe?
Drg|DEI|G> moves?
GT^Commis> lasrer foil, 4 moves.
herc3> If you get a chance do you want to rename some areas/regions as per polls
Drg|DEI|G> yes
Drg|DEI|G> pop
GT^Commis> Another sonar pod, and it revealed a Spartan impact foil.
GT^Commis> 4-2-4
herc3> that the laser foil in te funus
Drg|DEI|G> where?
GT^Commis> S-SE
herc3> the fungus*
GT^Commis> S-Sw, sorry
GT^Commis> No, the Sprtan foil isn't in the fungus, but our one is.
GT^Commis> Ithink we should run.
Drg|DEI|G> leav eit there then, hope they dont se us
Drg|DEI|G> or run?
Drg|DEI|G> or dodge around?
herc3> dodge
GT^Commis> Well, we could do the old emergyency upgrade routine.
GT^Commis> Oops, no, we can't.
GT^Commis> If we live until next turn we can.
herc3> worked before Hoew much?
Drg|DEI|G> run then
GT^Commis> Don't know, can't test it yet.
Drg|DEI|G> dodge later
GT^Commis> I say we move 1 square N and hope they don't see us.
GT^Commis> We can't upgrade, we've moved.
herc3> Ok
Drg|DEI|G> ok
GT^Commis> 227 complete
GT^Commis> sorry, 2227 complete
GT^Commis> Man, the University are really getting their butts kicked.
Drg|DEI|G> nasty
Drg|DEI|G> should we talk to them, se if they wneed help?
GT^Commis> They just lost Keppernigk Observatory, too.
GT^Commis> I'll try.
GT^Commis> At the very least, see if we can get some tech from them before they're annihilated.
GT^Commis> Also, there are more mindworms north of DEM.
GT^Commis> Attack?
GT^Commis> the odds are 3-2 in our favour.
GT^Commis> Herc?
GT^Commis> Hello?
GT^Commis> Ok, talking to Zakh, he want sus to attack Miriam again, I say no.
herc3> talk to them
herc3> I presume it's to yang
GT^Commis> Now he wants Nonlinear Mathematics.
GT^Commis> What?
GT^Commis> I'm talking to Zakharov.
Drg|DEI|G> the university war
Drg|DEI|G> yes
herc3> 3 to 2 go for it
Drg|DEI|G> i would say give him it
GT^Commis> Why?
Drg|DEI|G> hecr has lag
GT^Commis> It won't help him, he already has Gatling.
Drg|DEI|G> because itll help him against Yang
Drg|DEI|G> we dont want yang to annialate him
GT^Commis> No, it won't, he already has gatling.
GT^Commis> Give it, or not?
GT^Commis> The hell. I'll refuse.
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TKGDIA>
GT^Commis> Back again, I see?
GT^Commis> We're talking to Zakh.
GT^Commis> Were you here when he declared war?
GT^Commis> He wants a Truce.
TKGDIA> and no
TKGDIA> sure. was it because we're still in wealth?
GT^Commis> No.
Drg|DEI|G> Impact could help a lot
TKGDIA>
GT^Commis> We refused to give him Nonlinear Mthematics.
GT^Commis> Drogue: As I keep saying, no, it wouldn't because E ALREADY HAS GATLING.
TKGDIA> give him nonmath then
GT^Commis> Anyway, shoudl we try for a Treaty with him?
GT^Commis> TKG: WHY!?!?!? IT WON'T HELP.
TKGDIA> sure, why not
Drg|DEI|G> and were stealing from him, its almost justified
Drg|DEI|G> then itll help him gte chaos
Drg|DEI|G> we need allies, especially ones at war with yang
herc3> I am abit lost as to where we are
Drg|DEI|G> yes
Drg|DEI|G> nonlinear maths to zak, yea or nay?
Drg|DEI|G> dont u have to go with majority?
Drg|DEI|G> TKG
Drg|DEI|G> we;;, GT refused
Drg|DEI|G> I said give it
Drg|DEI|G> i know he hasd
Drg|DEI|G> thats not a reason not to give it, friendship
Drg|DEI|G> yes
TKGDIA> flud
GT^Commis> EH?
Drg|DEI|G> no need from caps GT
GT^Commis> Okay, vote.
GT^Commis> 1 = give it, 2 = don't, 3 = abstian.
Drg|DEI|G> herc you hear?
Drg|DEI|G> 1
TKGDIA> well, would it helpp?
GT^Commis> 3
herc3> 1
TKGDIA> for anything, at all?
GT^Commis> TKG: No. He has better weapons already.
Drg|DEI|G> for truce
TKGDIA> i mean, what purpose would it serve
Drg|DEI|G> friendship
TKGDIA> sure then
GT^Commis> Drogue: We have Truce alreayd.
Drg|DEI|G> and its another tech, towards militry techs
TKGDIA> erm 1
Drg|DEI|G> which will help in in the future
Drg|DEI|G> he is beign annialated by yang
Drg|DEI|G> so we give it
GT^Commis> I tried for a Treaty, he refused, and then cut the contact.
GT^Commis> So we can't give it.
GT^Commis> Maybe next time.
herc3> next time
Drg|DEI|G> did u offer it for treaty?
Drg|DEI|G> oh well
Drg|DEI|G> next time
Drg|DEI|G> what's up next?
GT^Commis> I offered him tech, he just said no.
Drg|DEI|G> ok
GT^Commis> And I think the Uni is going to lose New Arzamas next turn.
GT^Commis> They have 1 unit in it, and there are hordes of Hive troops outside.
herc3> we' ll see next turn
GT^Commis> TKG: Where shoudl the Sheathed Sword pods go?
TKGDIA> 14, 54 IIRC
TKGDIA> and 19.59
GT^Commis> Thanks.
herc3> Is my request for a Plasma sentinel on there
GT^Commis> Where?
TKGDIA> where
GT^Commis> Sheathed Sword?
herc3> Sheathed sword
TKGDIA> didn't we have a leftover from pandemonium move there?
herc3> ok if so
GT^Commis> There's a 1-2t-2 unit there, if that's what you mena.
TKGDIA> uhm earlier you said there were 3 units in pandemonium
TKGDIA> and asked what we should do with the "extras"
GT^Commis> Seathed Sword, not PAndemonium.
GT^Commis> Oh f*ck.
GT^Commis> IT's launchtime here.
GT^Commis> lunchtime, sorry.
* TKGDIA shrugs
GT^Commis> Do any of you need to go soon?
GT^Commis> Or can you wait for a bit?
GT^Commis> If you need to go, go now.
* GT^Commis is now known as GT^AFK
TKGDIA> i can stay i guess...then again, it's not like 2 am...
Drg|DEI|G> Id better go, its afer 2 in the morning
TKGDIA> as it is (if i'm not incorrect) for drug and herc
* herc3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
Drg|DEI|G> I guess ill go, icant wait for too long
Drg|DEI|G> Ill have a look at the og when posted
TKGDIA> ok
TKGDIA> later
Drg|DEI|G> remind GT to rush the net node in NT (drone riots) if he hasnt already
TKGDIA> i'll stay for a bit, see if he comes back
TKGDIA> after he's finished eating launch
Drg|DEI|G> and to rush the supply crawler in Aurora if he hasnt already
TKGDIA> gotch
TKGDIA> a
* herc2 has joined #smacdg
herc2> back again
TKGDIA> you know, we should really do this on the poly server
Drg|DEI|G> we should
herc2> somebody still recording?
Drg|DEI|G> bye all
TKGDIA> for one, there's chanserv and nickserv, and you can make longer names too
TKGDIA> later drug
* Drg|DEI|G has quit IRC
TKGDIA> i'll record
herc2> long way to go
* TKGDIA tries to figure out how the hell you log...
* GT^AFK is now known as GT^Commis
GT^Commis> Ok, I'm back for now.
herc2> waht year are we at
GT^Commis> 2228
herc2> so one more
GT^Commis> yes.
herc2> ok
TKGDIA> now, how to log...
herc2> whats required re orders
GT^Commis> TKG: go to the menu next to file, go to buffer, and click save as
herc2> GT you wanted to leave for weekend, Go now
* TKGDIA has quit IRC
GT^Commis> Not necessary though, I'm dealing with that.
GT^Commis> Herc: That's tommorow.
GT^Commis> I held the chat today because of that.
herc2> I know but there's just us 2
GT^Commis> yeah, I suppose you're right.
End of #smacdg buffer Sat Jan 18 13:29:43 2003

[Method]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
3) We got the Believer's commlink from Deirdre, went to the Planetary Council, and elected oruselves Governor.

5) Zakharov declared war on us when we refused to give him a tech, and we stole Presentient Algorithms from him.

6) We also stole Synthetic Fossil Fuels from Yang.

algorithms is a great tech to have. no we need to get the HSA before he does. also, that means we can go for fusion power

oh and fossil fuels are good to. great session

[Drogue]

Can we not post the chatlog in download format, with names too, like we used to? Who used to do it? How was it done?

[Hercules]

DBTS or TKG I think used to do it but don't quite know how.
I know who said what though.

[Maniac]

Edit: This post contained a failed attempt at posting the chatlog with names.

[GeneralTacticus]

Can we not post the chatlog in download format, with names too, like we used to? Who used to do it? How was it done?

Here. I think that if you remove one of the <> around the names, they will appear, but I gave up because there were so many of them.

[Maniac]

GT^Commis> Incidentally, has anyone noticed that Concordia is actually built on a rocky square?

Indeed. A remarkable feature, unique in Peacekeeper territory.
I mentioned it in the Concordia geographical description:

At the time of its foundation, Concordia promised to become a small cute harbor town, located at the northern end of a long and shallow fjord. Time proved otherwise however. A few years after the foundation of the base, it became clear Concordia was located near a very active volcanic area. Heavy earthquakes shook the small town of Concordia, destroying a big part of its infrastructure. Happily by now this infrastructurial damage has been repaired and the vulcanic activity has calmed down. But as a result of this turbulent past, Concordia has become a mountain city, located between several high peaks, more precisely the old vulcano in the SW: Mount Centauri with its 2572 metres, and the second highest mountain within Peacekeeping territory, in the NE, the Ben Nevis with its 2810 metres, named after the famous mountain in Old Earth Scotland. Concordia itself is locate in a valley, 1518 metres low, between these two peaks. This still makes it the highest base of them all, also the only one on rocky terrain, as can be noted in the cityview picture above. Due to this height, some sort of snowfall occurs every year during the winter period, so Concordia is known for its skiing tourism.

In short, a unity pod caused the terrain to rise, and made the Concordian base square along with a few others rocky. I also believe it gives that base an inherent defence bonus.

[GeneralTacticus]

Yes, I realized the why of it, just hadn't noticed it before.

[Method]

the reason it doesn't work is because it thinks they're HTML tags with the <>'s. and since <TKG> isn't an actual tag, it just does nothing.

[GeneralTacticus]

That's basically what I said. I just didn't want to take the time to delete all of them.

[GeneralTacticus]

Ok, I've fixed up the first post, if anyone's interested. Next time I'll do this before I post them up.

[GeneralTacticus]

Second post fixed.

[GeneralTacticus]

Third post fixed. Now, is anyone actually going to read the logs, or have I been wasting my time?

[DeathByTheSword]

i have read the last part....wasnt there

[Drogue]

Can I bring up a few questions about orders.

Why are Cyclops and UN Marine Institute building Trance Plasma sentinels, instead of what was ordered for their build queues?
Why is tthere a forest on (21, 111), instead of the condenser on (21,109) as ordered?
Why is there a road on (21,113)?
Why was the Aurora SC not rushed in 2225 (IIRC) as was discussed, agreed, and as I had been told was done? It is still not built.
Why was the Scout Patrol on (12,114) not moved to Cyclops as ordered, to be the defense for that base.

Sorry if this seems confrontational, but I need to know if there were reasons for them, or if it was just forgotten. The only ones I am a little annoyed at are the build queues for Cyclops and UN Marine Insitute, and many turns of useful production have been effectively wasted, sicne there is no need for plasma sentinels there, or for any defense to be build in Cyclops as I ordered the SP to go there.

[Maniac]

Ah yes, there are also three minor things that were forgotten, so I'd like to stress them for the next chat.

First: the Pandemonian trance scout skirmisher at Terminal Dogma hasn't been rehomed.
Second: one of the police infantries at Concordia hasn't been moved and rehomed to Valhalla, leaving that base vulnerable for human or alien attack.
Third: the ShSw crawler currently convoying nutrients at Pandemonium should have been rehomed to Valhalla before going there to speed up the growth of that new base.

Otherwise, great job!

[Drogue]

Yes. Overall a great job I felt I needed to point them out however.

[Cedayon]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Third post fixed. Now, is anyone actually going to read the logs, or have I been wasting my time?

*faint transmission from the direction of former University territory*

Logs read. Excel- *garbled signal* progress.
*explosion sounds and static, long pause* Must go, Sh- *garbled signal* hitting fan over here.

*end transmission*



OOC: If you can get the raw text of the chatlogs, can't you just do a search and replace of all angle brackets ( >'s and <'s) with the empty string (or a space)?

[GeneralTacticus]

Can I bring up a few questions about orders.

Why are Cyclops and UN Marine Institute building Trance Plasma sentinels, instead of what was ordered for their build queues?
Why is tthere a forest on (21, 111), instead of the condenser on (21,109) as ordered?
Why is there a road on (21,113)?
Why was the Aurora SC not rushed in 2225 (IIRC) as was discussed, agreed, and as I had been told was done? It is still not built.
Why was the Scout Patrol on (12,114) not moved to Cyclops as ordered, to be the defense for that base.

Sorry if this seems confrontational, but I need to know if there were reasons for them, or if it was just forgotten. The only ones I am a little annoyed at are the build queues for Cyclops and UN Marine Insitute, and many turns of useful production have been effectively wasted, sicne there is no need for plasma sentinels there, or for any defense to be build in Cyclops as I ordered the SP to go there.

Either because the orders were not found, or were issued during the chat and hence not obvious on the orders list. About the Aurora SC: I ma have confused it with the Twin Peaks crawler, which was rushed; or else there may cimply have been another one under contruction.

First: the Pandemonian trance scout skirmisher at Terminal Dogma hasn't been rehomed.

Was this order given during the chat? If so, I'm not surprised it wasn't carried out, because obeying orders you may not remember exist and which can be hard to find is difficult.

Second: one of the police infantries at Concordia hasn't been moved and rehomed to Valhalla, leaving that base vulnerable for human or alien attack.

I don't recall any such order being given; if I did, it would have been carried out.

Third: the ShSw crawler currently convoying nutrients at Pandemonium should have been rehomed to Valhalla before going there to speed up the growth of that new base.

I recall a case of a crawler being rehomed to there, and IIRC, the order was carried out.

Yes. Overall a great job I felt I needed to point them out however.

If you believe any mistakes were made, please say so; it makes it easier to prevent more mistakes.

OOC: If you can get the raw text of the chatlogs, can't you just do a search and replace of all angle brackets ( >'s and <'s) with the empty string (or a space)?

I'm afraid I don't know how to do that.

[Cedayon]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
I'm afraid I don't know how to do that.

It's a very simple thing that takes about a minute (or less) with an editor like TextPad. I could do it in the future if someone sent me the raw chat log.

[Maniac]

Requests for the DPO Hercules

Could you please rehome the Pandemonian trance scout skirmisher garrisoned at Terminal Dogma to Terminal Dogma?
Could you please send one of the police infantries garrisoned at Concordia to the new base U.N. Criminal Tribunal and rehome it as the new garrison?

From my last orderchat. It is a fact though approval of these orders by Hercules was only given during the turnchat itself. I'll have to stop giving Hercules Xenobrews this week until he puts my requests in his next military orderset.