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January 19, 2003, 16:50
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Is the redirect screen deceitful?
I mean, think about it. Everytime you click on a link that takes you out of Poly, two things happen:
1. You go to a "redirect" screen, which does absolutely nothing but pad Poly hit (click?) counts by adding people who are leaving the site.
2. You always get an ad, no exception. I assume somebody is getting paid for this ad... do the advertisers know that their ads are being consistently shown to people leaving the site?*
And did you know if you leave the popups open, they don't multiply. If you close them, though, you'll get a new one once you make another Poly click. I've been testing this theory with the "One2One" and the "You're computer may not be running our crap utilities" ads.
*I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't care. But it's still a bit... shady.
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January 19, 2003, 16:59
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That's what Apolyton does to survive . A pop-up popping up gets the site revenue.
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January 19, 2003, 19:19
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You always get an ad, no exception
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there are no ads in the redirection pages
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January 19, 2003, 19:23
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Ads come up in another new window whenever you click a link to an outside website.
Are you just being pedantic Mark?
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January 19, 2003, 19:37
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Ads come up in another new window whenever you click a link to an outside website.
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oh THOSE redirect pages....
i thought he was referring to the forum redirect pages(shown after posting, etc)
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I assume somebody is getting paid for this ad...
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yes. apolyton.
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I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't care
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they dont (care)
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January 19, 2003, 19:49
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Originally posted by MarkG
oh THOSE redirect pages....
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'Tis pretty sneaky........but if the advertisers don't care there is no problem, unless you have a problem with pop-ups generally.
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January 19, 2003, 19:53
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I assume somebody is getting paid for this ad...
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I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't care
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Then you have our blessing...
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January 19, 2003, 20:59
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it seems that no one thinks the form of advertising is deceitful.
Me? I don't give a damn about the advertisers and gladly would screw them over if i had a chance
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January 19, 2003, 21:18
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Originally posted by H Tower
Me? I don't give a damn about the advertisers and gladly would screw them over if i had a chance
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If you don't depend of their $$$ that is.
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January 19, 2003, 21:26
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I don't think the form of advertising is deceitful, I just think that the use of redirect pages is, well, not 110% honest.
Thanks for the answers Mark. Now I have another question:
When I started posting this thread, I could've sworn that I saw another thread in this forum that looked really interesting, something entitled "How Long Will Apolyton Last". When I was done, it was gone.
Am I seeing things? Or did the thread happen to get deleted sometime around 3:50pm, EST (US)?
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January 19, 2003, 21:36
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Originally posted by JohnT
When I started posting this thread, I could've sworn that I saw another thread in this forum that looked really interesting, something entitled "How Long Will Apolyton Last". When I was done, it was gone.
Am I seeing things? Or did the thread happen to get deleted sometime around 3:50pm, EST (US)?
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Seeing things The thread is still there:
http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...threadid=73135
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January 19, 2003, 21:54
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Ads come up in another new window whenever you click a link to an outside website.
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oh THOSE redirect pages....
i thought he was referring to the forum redirect pages(shown after posting, etc)
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I thought JohnT's "Everytime you click on a link that takes you out of Poly" would have been a giveaway.
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January 19, 2003, 22:40
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more like NOT seeing things
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January 19, 2003, 22:47
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Yes it is a little underhanded but it keeps 'poly going so I don't care. The pop-ups also don't bother me since I use a pop-up blocker.
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January 19, 2003, 23:50
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Nudge Nudge Wink Wink. Say no more!.
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Yes it is a little underhanded but it keeps 'poly going so I don't care. The pop-ups also don't bother me since I use a pop-up blocker.
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You mean the pop-ups don't annoy you else you would use a pop-up blocker. Seeing as how you support Poly wholeheartedly and all you wouldn't attempt to deny it much needed revenues.
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January 20, 2003, 00:29
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Hehehe, yeah. Sure. That's the ticket.
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January 20, 2003, 03:36
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Yes it is a little underhanded but it keeps 'poly going so I don't care. The pop-ups also don't bother me since I use a pop-up blocker.
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actually, you dont care cause you dont get to see the pop-ups, not because you care about apolyton.....
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January 20, 2003, 05:42
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I think SD beat you to the punch there Mark.
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January 20, 2003, 05:44
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i wanted to put some added emphasis on the punch....
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January 20, 2003, 05:47
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January 20, 2003, 05:49
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Maybe you should PM everyone that states they use pop-up blockers with a pic of the t-shirt.
No Ads
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(please notice the cleverly designed ACS acronym )
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January 20, 2003, 05:58
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The ads don´t bother me. I get so very few of them anyway... I use Phoenix
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January 20, 2003, 06:53
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:yawn:
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January 20, 2003, 14:05
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Well, I guess the poll says it all - with a 7-to-1 vote (so far) saying that it is not deceitful.
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January 20, 2003, 17:41
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Time to close this I fear.
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January 20, 2003, 21:46
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It isn't deceitful, I don't even wait for them to finish loading anymore, I'm good at space invaders too.
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January 21, 2003, 01:35
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I don't block the ads. I occassionally click on one just to show my support.
Of course, you just get 30 more pop-ups.
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January 21, 2003, 02:18
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That's why I set one of my mouse buttons to 'close ' windows/programs instead of the default 'next'.
Very good alternative to a pop killer
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January 21, 2003, 04:09
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Huh, that's kind of a good idea Alva. You get to kill the pop ups and 'poly still gets revinue from the pop up popping up.
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January 21, 2003, 04:31
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You get to kill the pop ups and 'poly still gets revinue from the pop up popping up.
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actually, that depends, as some pop-up programs now require that the window remains open for a set number of seconds in order for it to count....
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