Aussie Group Re-Runs 4 - Page 17

finbar · March 7, 2003, 21:08

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Originally posted by srholmes
This morning I received an email saying they were giving everyone 25% of their monthly fee back for March, but all I really wanted was access. I am sure it would be cheaper for them to have free dial-up backup than lose $15 a month.

Yes, the 25% rebate came about as a result of Telstra being bombarded with complaints. It started after the huge January outage. And it only happened because of the volume of complaints. Left to themselves, Telstra would simply have, typically, ignored a trickle of complaints.

I assume you're using the Telstra launch pad? I was constantly losing my connection - as against the system being down - through the Telstra launch pad. I haven't had a connection problem - or a system problem - for weeks now with the custom-built launcher I installed. Telstra acknowledges problems with its launch pad but don't appear to be doing anything about it. Which is typical. There are custom launchers available for both Mac and PC. It might be worth your while checking out one of them.

The biggest problem with the Telstra launcher is that it operates on a "heartbeat" system. A message is sent to your computer every (from memory) 5 minutes. If it doesn't get a response, you lose your connection. Telstra is the only broadband supplier to use this system. The custom-built launchers - the Mac one anyway - circumvent this problem.

finbar · March 7, 2003, 21:11

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Originally posted by SuperSneak
Is that how whining is spelled in Australia?

Interesting one, this one. Arguably there should be an "e" in it - whingeing - but I don't think there's a definitive spelling. To whinge is to grizzle.

DrSpike · March 7, 2003, 21:18

In such cases both are usually allowed. I would spell it 'whingeing' though.

srholmes · March 7, 2003, 21:31

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Originally posted by SuperSneak
Is that how whining is spelled in Australia?

Is that how spelt is spelt in America?

finbar · March 7, 2003, 21:35

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Originally posted by DrSpike
In such cases both are usually allowed. I would spell it 'whingeing' though.

Yes, the "e" softens the "g".

srholmes · March 7, 2003, 21:35

Finbar, where did you get your custom-built launcher from?

I am using the Telstra one and it does often drop out, or also say that it has when it hasn't. Thanks to you explanation I now understand why.

srholmes · March 7, 2003, 21:37

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Originally posted by DrSpike
In such cases both are usually allowed. I would spell it 'whingeing' though.

It just doesn't look right to me when spelt with an 'e'. Both are allowed, according to Websters dictionary, though.

Alexander's Horse · March 8, 2003, 00:24

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Originally posted by trev
We had sufficient players for a game tonight but some stuff about Mrs Horse having a birthday tomorrow was enough to make Mr Horse retire.

So no game unfortunately and another wasted night

Jeez, you could have played without me.

I'm beginning to think the telecoms infrastructure down here in Canberra must be superb. I use a dial up and noone complains much about lag when I host.

Its probably a side benefit of living in a city which hosts government agencies like Defence that need state of the art communications infrastructure. We're on the same grid.

deity · March 8, 2003, 02:03

Why would we start yet another game with a combination of players who would never be able to finish the game?

You should have posted you couldn't play

finbar · March 8, 2003, 02:20

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Originally posted by srholmes
Finbar, where did you get your custom-built launcher from?

Are you Mac or PC? If Mac, I can give you a link to the launcher. If PC, I'll find one for you.

Edit. Here's a link to a page that will tell you all about how to solve the problem. If you're on a Mac, it's the "Launcher" application that I installed.

Another edit. And here's a link to where you can download the launchers for both Mac and PC. Look in the right hand column, under "Inside BigPond Broadband", under "Login Clients (Cable)".

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I am using the Telstra one and it does often drop out, or also say that it has when it hasn't. Thanks to you explanation I now understand why.

I would get a dozen messages a day telling me I'd lost connection when I hadn't. Then, usually during Civ games, I would lose connection. Because, as I discovered, of the "heartbeat" thing. None of this happens with the custom-built launcher.

finbar · March 8, 2003, 02:22

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Originally posted by srholmes

It just doesn't look right to me when spelt with an 'e'. Both are allowed, according to Websters dictionary, though.

Funnily enough, I think it looks better with an "e". I always think it must sound like "winging" minus the "e". But, as you say, it's optional.

DrSpike · March 8, 2003, 08:44

Glad to see some sense on the 'e' useage front.

Btw don't make the whole sentences hyperlinks, just the "here's" is neater IMO.

finbar · March 8, 2003, 10:00

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Originally posted by DrSpike
Btw don't make the whole sentences hyperlinks, just the "here's" is neater IMO.

Who asked you? I like blue ink.

DrSpike · March 8, 2003, 10:04

You can write your posts in blue if you want. Making the whole post a hyperlink to make it blue would be somewhat hamfisted.

SuperSneak · March 8, 2003, 13:28

So am I to understand that I'm talking about the universally known word "whine", and you are talking about some word spelled "whing", which I am assuming is the Australian cousin of "whine"?

DrSpike · March 8, 2003, 17:02

It's whinge, and it just means the same as whine. We use it in England as well.

finbar · March 8, 2003, 19:15

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Originally posted by DrSpike
You can write your posts in blue if you want. Making the whole post a hyperlink to make it blue would be somewhat hamfisted.

I have a Masters in it, I'm working towards my PhD.

DrSpike · March 8, 2003, 19:21

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Originally posted by finbar

I have a Masters in it, I'm working towards my PhD.

In hamfistedness?

/me bemoans the proliferation of hokum degrees in today's world.

finbar · March 8, 2003, 20:14

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Originally posted by DrSpike

In hamfistedness?

Yse. See? That earns me Honours in Hamfisted Typing 101.

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DrSpike bemoans the proliferation of hokum degrees in today's world.

I suspect you're an ideal candiate for my Degree Course in Pomposity Pricking. Care to enrol? You can never have too many qualifications.

srholmes · March 8, 2003, 21:49

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Originally posted by SuperSneak
So am I to understand that I'm talking about the universally known word "whine", and you are talking about some word spelled (sic) "whing", which I am assuming is the Australian cousin of "whine"?

Yes, it is an entirely distinct, albeit similar, word.

Here is a useful link you may find interesting....

Alexander's Horse · March 8, 2003, 22:29

and thus ends another Aussie thread - on something close to every Australian's heart - grammar

Ming please close.

Hydey · March 9, 2003, 07:13

so did Mrs Horse have a good birthday ?

Ming · March 9, 2003, 11:44

Time for a new one