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View Poll Results: What diplomatic stance should we strive for with the Lord's Believers?
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Vendetta!
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13.33% |
Informal Truce
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5 |
33.33% |
Treaty of Friendship
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7 |
46.67% |
Pact of Brotherhood
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1 |
6.67% |
Write-In
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Abstain / Xenobanana
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January 29, 2003, 14:54
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Prince
Local Time: 11:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Williamsburg, Virginia
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Official: Foreign Affairs: Policy toward the Believers
Just what it says. You have three days.
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January 29, 2003, 15:06
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King
Local Time: 10:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I would prefer a pact, more for RP reasons than practical ones. I don't really expect it to happen, though.
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January 29, 2003, 17:31
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Local Time: 15:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Oxford or Northampton, England
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This is not at all my usualy character, but I vote for Vendetta. I am a pacifist, but there is no place on Planet for teaching aggressive belief. It is in the interests of peace that we must stop militant religion.
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January 29, 2003, 18:25
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Emperor
Local Time: 12:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
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we're not in a position to wage yet another war. i voted treaty, but i doubt it's possible
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January 29, 2003, 19:37
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King
Local Time: 10:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Quote:
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Originally posted by Drogue
This is not at all my usualy character, but I vote for Vendetta. I am a pacifist, but there is no place on Planet for teaching aggressive belief. It is in the interests of peace that we must stop militant religion.
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Hmm... I guess they won't be too shocked if we do that, stuff like that's been happening for a while. I won't raise a weapon against one of them, though.
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January 30, 2003, 02:54
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King
Local Time: 08:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,568
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Informal truce would be the best we could hope to get form Miriam, even if we were to give in to her ludicrous demands. Though even if we are at war with her on paper, no actual conflict would occur for a considerably long period of time, in short she poses no threat to us. We can effectively ignore Miriam and her flock.
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January 30, 2003, 03:32
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Emperor
Local Time: 02:21
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: of Melbourne, Australia
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Cedayon: What reason do you have for advocating that we try for a Pact with Miriam?
btw, I vote we try for a Treaty; for the Commerce, if nothing else.
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January 30, 2003, 05:41
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King
Local Time: 15:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: of Xanadu, Scottish Section of the Apolyton Must Crush Capitalism Party
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Freindship, as long as we can keep Believers friendly. Get ready for total war, just in case.
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January 30, 2003, 07:00
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Local Time: 15:21
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Oxford or Northampton, England
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I am more opposed to the Believers than to Yang. However that is not why I support a vendetta. We will never have peace while one faction leader wants war to convert all. Miriam cannot be reasoned with. She has a Jihad against us, and all non-fundy Governments. Yang will bow to military might, to a show of power. Miriam will bow to nothing, she would rather die than stop attacking us. The only choice we have is to make her choose death.
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But he would think of something
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January 30, 2003, 09:58
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King
Local Time: 10:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Quote:
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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Cedayon: What reason do you have for advocating that we try for a Pact with Miriam?
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There really isn't a good in-game one, because of how the game chooses to depict the Believers (ruthless Jihad-ing intractible zealots that can't research worth ****). A treaty would be just as good, I suppose, but if somehow a pertubation in the fabric of space-time were to get Miriam to actually accept a pact...
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January 30, 2003, 15:04
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Prince
Local Time: 17:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sweden
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I can't see any use of miriam, I vote for truce, and start building up our army. We will have to fight her sooner or later.
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January 30, 2003, 19:57
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Deity
Local Time: 16:21
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Posts: 11,565
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I am voting for anything less than vendetta for practical reasons at this time. If we achieve Treaty or Truce, there is a chance she could intervene to our advantage with other regimes ( plus would we get trade points).
As in common with most all peacekeepers, she's not my 'cup of tea'. Thankfully she's not a serious threat at this time nor if we control things will she ever be.
My only caveat is if our allies call on us to intervene in a big way.
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January 31, 2003, 03:16
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#13
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Emperor
Local Time: 02:21
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: of Melbourne, Australia
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Zakh might want us to declare war later, as he is currently at war with her (IIRC), but that shouldn't pose too much of a problem. It's not as if she'll be terribly unhappy if war rbeaks out, either (the only people who will be are the guys at the Department of Global Commerce).
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