January 29, 2003, 16:33
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Why do so many Africans have AIDS?
What did Bush say, 30 million people? I went bug eyed at that. eek: ...but forgot about it later during the rallying call to arms.
I guess we're going to go "bonk some heads"
Anyway, is all of Africa so afflicted? Would most of the money go to the rich arabs? No, I'd guess not as they wouldn't need a hand out because there's so many oil rich nations there.
So this money would be basicly earmarked for sub saharan africa. But why? Why is there such a vast problem there in particular? Is it because aids came from a cave in africa or something like that? Monkey bites? No that's just ebola, right?
So why so much aids in africa and not in say, Bangla Desh? or China or the Philippines?
Thirty million!
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January 29, 2003, 16:36
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Culture is part of the answer. In many parts of Africa it's considered "unmanly" to use a condom.
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January 29, 2003, 16:37
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Because it started there. Also what Caligastia said.
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January 29, 2003, 16:38
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After the obligatory note: US has far more AIDS HIV infected people than the EU,
the short answer is because Africa is in the pitts.
Another disgusting practice is the having sex with child virgins that many Africans engage in so as to be sure there s no AIDS threat.
The situation could be much mroe aleviated if condom use was widespread. (supplies of condomes..."marketing" )
and also if pharmaceutacls would not be so tight assed when it came to make profits from selling anti AIDS drugs in Africa...
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January 29, 2003, 16:39
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It's more than 30 million. AIDS is so prevalent in Africa that the population is falling.
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January 29, 2003, 16:44
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Re: Why do so many Africans have AIDS?
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Is it because aids came from a cave in africa or something like that?
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Spot on. The opening of the Kinshasa Highway across Africa brought it out of the jungle.
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January 29, 2003, 16:47
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Re: Why do so many Africans have AIDS?
China, India, and Russia are also being affected by AIDS.
We Russians are always looking for a good time, not matter what the cost....
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January 29, 2003, 16:48
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Allegendly Aids derives from a certain species of monkies.
A theory which requires a rather disgusting intercourse having taken place to have the virus passed on to the human species.
That's why I prefer the "escaped from the lab" approach. It offers ease of mind.
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January 29, 2003, 16:48
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And it's a Western plot.
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January 29, 2003, 16:49
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The situation could be much mroe aleviated if condom use was widespread. (supplies of condomes..."marketing" )
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This has already been done, with very little success.
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January 29, 2003, 16:50
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paiktis, why does the US have more AIDS victims than the EU?
Caligastia, I don't recall seeing rubbers for sale in the Phils. I doubt people in Bangla Desh, China, or India can afford them...yet we're not bailing them out...
che, it started there...that makes sense. However it does not bode well for the rest of the poor nations of the world if Africa is the pattern. "It started there" would indicate to me that once aids has as much time in other places the result will be the same disaster...yes? If the population is truly falling! Well I'm just amazed.
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January 29, 2003, 16:50
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This has already been done, with very little success.
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Then it wasnt done correctly
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January 29, 2003, 16:52
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And it's a Western plot.
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Carried out with alien technology.
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January 29, 2003, 16:53
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Lancer, I dont know why.
Something to do with knowing and implementing the best defence one has against the disease: wearing a condom
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January 29, 2003, 16:53
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Then it wasnt done correctly
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So no matter what, Africans are not to be blamed.
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January 29, 2003, 16:55
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So no matter what, Africans are not to be blamed.
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why should they be blamed
I thought the point was to help.
And implementing crude western promotion campaigns (even when not done in large scale) are, logically, inefective to people of other cultures. doh
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Laz, no kidding. No Kinshasa highway, no aids? How the heck did it...or was it "brought out of the jungle"?
Tass, how many people in Russia w/ aids? Any idea? Do they get meds?
Dino ssshhhh.
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Allegendly Aids derives from a certain species of monkies.
A theory which requires a rather disgusting intercourse having taken place to have the virus passed on to the human species.
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It does not require people to have sex with monekys. This shows a major lak of imagination upon your part. There is nothing alleged about HIV having come from other primates. HIV II is identical to Simian Inmunodeficiancy Virus, and HIV I is identical to a a virus found in green monkeys.
How did they get transmitted to humans? Easy, bush meat. Monkeys and chimps are food animals, and it's very easy to accidentally get infected material in a cut. Once introduced into new organisms which don't have defenses against the virus it begins to spread. Once it reaches a certain critical mass, it explodes.
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January 29, 2003, 16:57
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which means that the ones who have failed are those who tried to help, ineffectively
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January 29, 2003, 16:58
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Caligastia, I don't recall seeing rubbers for sale in the Phils. I doubt people in Bangla Desh, China, or India can afford them...yet we're not bailing them out...
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Which is probably a good thing. So far "bailing out" Africa has proved to be a bottomless money pit.
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January 29, 2003, 17:00
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Che, yeah but that isnt as funny as what I said, is it?
It's called attempts at humour, no need to be so pendadic about it.
Plus somebody could also have bonked a monkey.
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Originally posted by Caligastia
So no matter what, Africans are not to be blamed.
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It's entirely Africa's fault. Super-macho cultures which denigrate the use of condomns and which stree the manliness of having multiple female partners coupled with the widespread use of bushmeat is what started and spread the disease.
If they'd followed the family planning models given them, used the damn condomns, and stopped destroying their environment, this wouldn't be a problem.
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Plus somebody could also have bonked a monkey.
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Green monkeys are too small and chimps are four times stronger than humans. They have the ability to rip your arm off. Ain't no one but a chimp bonking a chimp.
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January 29, 2003, 17:01
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why should they be blamed
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Need I remind you how the AIDS virus is transmitted in the majority of cases?
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I thought the point was to help.
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How do you help those who are unwilling to help themselves?
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And implementing crude western promotion campaigns (even when not done in large scale) are, logically, inefective to people of other cultures. doh
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What makes them "crude", specifically? There you go again, blaming the westerners.
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January 29, 2003, 17:02
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He could have been a heavy weight lifter.
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January 29, 2003, 17:03
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It's entirely Africa's fault. Super-macho cultures which denigrate the use of condomns and which stree the manliness of having multiple female partners coupled with the widespread use of bushmeat is what started and spread the disease.
If they'd followed the family planning models given them, used the damn condomns, and stopped destroying their environment, this wouldn't be a problem.
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*faints*
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January 29, 2003, 17:03
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also how large are green monkies?
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SOMEBODY ****ED A MONKEY?!?!
Uggg...that's disgusting. Yuck...ohhh man....
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January 29, 2003, 17:04
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of course caligastia.
They are unable to help and have proven it.
If the Africans already used condoms they wouldnt have it so bad, thats why some people went there to help, and failed to do so
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January 29, 2003, 17:05
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Which is probably a good thing. So far "bailing out" Africa has proved to be a bottomless money pit.
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Now you know how we feel about arguing with you.
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