Should America be a civ? - Page 2

Panag · February 4, 2003, 07:24

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Originally posted by Amesjustin
Well, I was going to post something along the lines of 'Stop all the USA-Bashing!' but then I read this post...

...and could not stop laughing. I actually agree that USA should not be in the game from the start, but should come into power later (same with other late comers). Of course that would require such an extensive reworking of the game that you might as well make a new one where civilizations evolve, grow into power, and eventually lose it (as they all inevitably do). Civolution would be a good name....

hi ,

there is a solution to that , in CIV II there are some mods and scen's that make a country split in to two , ...... they could work something out in civ III and lets say that an X percentage of this or that civ splits away to make the US , the same could be done for countries like Brazil and Australia , ........

have a nice day

Centauri18 · February 4, 2003, 07:30

As for Australia and the Pacific Islands, there are numerous names for them. People call the area Australasia, Oceania, Pacifica, and such.

Chilean President™ · February 4, 2003, 09:53

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Originally posted by War of Art
Australia ? Or is the continent called "Oceania" or something ?

The official name of the continent is Oceania.

About the "split of countries", I really miss that. In civ2 when you invade a foreign capital the country split in two inmediately. In civ3 the option to the new nations could be others than the original civs, for example; China split in 2: China + Tibet, England split in 2: UK + Australia (or the US???), etc.

Panag · February 4, 2003, 10:00

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Originally posted by Chilean President

The official name of the continent is Oceania.

About the "split of countries", I really miss that. In civ2 when you invade a foreign capital the country split in two inmediately. In civ3 the option to the new nations could be others than the original civs, for example; China split in 2: China + Tibet, England split in 2: UK + Australia (or the US???), etc.

hi ,

well there are still seven open slots for civ's , .....

if someone might be able to sell this idea to Firaxis , .....

when asked in a chat the answer was "we shall see" , nothing further ever since , ......

it would really rock , and we should have the ability to decide what civ's are born when a country splits , howmany cities , money , units , etc , ......

have a nice day

Jamski · February 4, 2003, 10:05

It would be great Panag, but they'll never do it

We'll have to wait for Civ 7.

Still having a nice day, thank-you

-Jam

Panag · February 4, 2003, 10:14

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Originally posted by War of Art
It would be great Panag, but they'll never do it

We'll have to wait for Civ 7.

Still having a nice day, thank-you

-Jam

hi ,

nah , when civ II came out no-one thought it would be in it , ....

in the worst case scenario we have to wait until CIV IV to have it again , ....

, maybe Gramphos could find a solution , .......

there has to be a way , ..... maybe they just simple forgot it , but it could definatly be food for the next expansion patch , ....

have a nice day

Chilean President™ · February 4, 2003, 10:40

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Originally posted by panag
hi ,

well there are still seven open slots for civ's , .....

if someone might be able to sell this idea to Firaxis , .....

when asked in a chat the answer was "we shall see" , nothing further ever since , ......

it would really rock , and we should have the ability to decide what civ's are born when a country splits , howmany cities , money , units , etc , ......

have a nice day

Lets create a Limited Society and sell the idea to Firaxis or the next company that will produce Civ4 (EA??)

Panag · February 4, 2003, 10:45

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Originally posted by Chilean President

Lets create a Limited Society and sell the idea to Firaxis or the next company that will produce Civ4 (EA??)

hi ,

why wait for CIV IV

its great stuff for an XP (!)

Firaxis , .....

imagines all the scenario's , ......

have a nice day

Centauri18 · February 4, 2003, 18:47

You see, Firaxis ought to visit these sites and see what the people want. You could really sell a game based on what the people want.

Amesjustin · February 4, 2003, 19:04

I say we free ourselves from the TBS cage the oppressive gaming software companies have imprisoned us in and make our own game!!

....or something.....

Quintrala · February 4, 2003, 20:48

Nice the idea of a split country like in civ2, I think that the original team of Civ should do the civ4, not new guys like firaxis.
Anyway, the thread ask for US in the game. I support the US to be a civ, but as "my president" has said call the civ "America" is wrong, it should be the entire name or just USA. It would be nice to see the US split in the Anglo States, the French States and the Mexican provinces of the north.

Quintrala · February 4, 2003, 20:49

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Originally posted by Quintrala
It would be nice to see the US split in the Anglo States, the French States and the Mexican provinces of the north.

I mean just in the game

Panag · February 5, 2003, 05:30

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Originally posted by Centauri18
You see, Firaxis ought to visit these sites and see what the people want. You could really sell a game based on what the people want.

hi ,

Mike and Soren visit here often , it does not mean that you dont see them they are not here , .....

have a nice day

Centauri18 · February 5, 2003, 06:42

So have they actually used any ideas from here at Apolyton?

Panag · February 5, 2003, 06:46

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Originally posted by Centauri18
So have they actually used any ideas from here at Apolyton?

hi ,

yep they have , .....

have a nice day

Centauri18 · February 5, 2003, 06:49

Huh. I wasn't aware that they actually used our ideas. What, exactly, did they use, anyway? Just out of curiosity.

High_Lord · February 6, 2003, 04:35

America should be in there sure, but not defaulted as that sissy blue color, and not with Lincoln as the main Leader. It shouldve been someone associated with the Revolution and the DoI like Thomas Jefferson or George-father-of-the-freakin-nation-Washington, or HELL, EVEN OL BEN FRANKLIN.

Lincoln gets more props than any prez in history other than maybe FDR

Amesjustin · February 6, 2003, 12:05

I would lean towards Washington, if only because he was our first.

What would be REALLY nice is if the leader would change as you changed eras. It would reflect whoever was the most powerful/influential leader of that civ as it progressed. Obviously some civs didn't make it to the Modern era, but They could keep their leader, or just reflect a later leader in their history.

Chilean President™ · February 6, 2003, 12:30

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Originally posted by Amesjustin
I would lean towards Washington, if only because he was our first.

What would be REALLY nice is if the leader would change as you changed eras. It would reflect whoever was the most powerful/influential leader of that civ as it progressed. Obviously some civs didn't make it to the Modern era, but They could keep their leader, or just reflect a later leader in their history.

great idea! but which should be the last Pres of the USA? Clinton or Bush Jr.

Amesjustin · February 6, 2003, 12:55

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Originally posted by Chilean President

great idea! but which should be the last Pres of the USA? Clinton or Bush Jr.

Clinton. You just compared one of the best presidents in a long time (Clinton) to an utter Jackass (W). No comparison.

I am sure I just invited all sorts of mayhem upon me for that.....

Panag · February 6, 2003, 13:07

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Originally posted by Centauri18
Huh. I wasn't aware that they actually used our ideas. What, exactly, did they use, anyway? Just out of curiosity.

hi ,

most of the improved options in the editor , like the minimap for example , .....

the list is a bit huge , but if you look you shall see many things that where born in threads and chats , .....

have a nice day

Chilean President™ · February 6, 2003, 13:15

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Originally posted by Amesjustin

Clinton. You just compared one of the best presidents in a long time (Clinton) to an utter Jackass (W). No comparison.

I am sure I just invited all sorts of mayhem upon me for that.....

great choice!

Aramis · February 6, 2003, 16:39

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Originally posted by Amesjustin

Clinton. You just compared one of the best presidents in a long time (Clinton) to an utter Jackass (W). No comparison.

I am sure I just invited all sorts of mayhem upon me for that.....

Not at all, not at all.
But why would Clinton be the last? Someday W will be out of office, and (I Hope) we'll still be a nation--or a civ--or a civoluted amalgam of the western world.

Back to subject --

There's room in the game for many important civs.

America should be included. It is a civilization, even if the cornerstones are Big Macs, Beer, and Baseball. It is what all other civilizations were leading up to, at least at the present time.

As I recall, Rome (what all others were leading up to then) was an amalgam that spread its bread and circuses culture around what it knew as the world.

And all the cultures that produced the UK were an amalgam that gave the world --uhm?-- oh, I know -- fish and chips!

Yanghead · February 6, 2003, 20:38

The powers that be never stopped spreading the "culure" of bread and circuses. American Gladiators anyone.

or Battlebots for that matter.

Master Zen · February 8, 2003, 00:09

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Originally posted by War of Art
If you leave a youghurt for 300 years on its own, it will develop a CULTURE

-Jam

Bacterial culture???

ottok · February 9, 2003, 11:47

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Originally posted by Quintrala
Nice the idea of a split country like in civ2, I think that the original team of Civ should do the civ4, not new guys like firaxis.
Anyway, the thread ask for US in the game. I support the US to be a civ, but as "my president" has said call the civ "America" is wrong, it should be the entire name or just USA. It would be nice to see the US split in the Anglo States, the French States and the Mexican provinces of the north.

Fixaris=Sid meries?

At Civilizations maked Crish?

Master Zen · February 9, 2003, 12:26

Don't forget to bring in Brian Reynolds!

ottok · February 9, 2003, 13:18

But crish sawyer NOT maked civs

anyhow!

civ3 is the LAST civ-game. Sorry!

Quintrala · February 9, 2003, 15:32

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Originally posted by ottok
Fixaris=Sid meries?

nop.. I said that their not the same.. I mean, I wish that the original Civilization team could work in Civ4.

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Originally posted by ottok
At Civilizations maked Crish?

I don't understand you

Wycoff · February 11, 2003, 02:49

Yes. Without a doubt. It doesn't matter that they developed later than other civs. America makes as much sense in the Ancient age as Carthage does in the Modern age.