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except if you plan to play MP, UK english (aka. english english) version is perfectly fine.
but i really don't know why it takes them so long to bring out the international versions. not much changes anyway. all they need to do is compile again it with the other settings 
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March 11, 2003, 05:12
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wow, 150 posts, my longest thread ever 
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March 12, 2003, 00:51
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Originally posted by sabrewolf
except if you plan to play MP, UK english (aka. english english) version is perfectly fine.
but i really don't know why it takes them so long to bring out the international versions. not much changes anyway. all they need to do is compile again it with the other settings
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hi ,
but if you have today the UK english version , you cant patch yet , and that means that you also have no solutions that are fixed with 1.21 , ......
the main problem is infogrames , ......
and the people who buy those international versions , ..... with a click of a mouse you can order the US english version  
have a nice day
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March 12, 2003, 08:45
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there is 1.14f for UK-english and that's plenty for single player
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March 12, 2003, 15:43
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Muahahaha... Now I have PtW. At least a pre-patch crack. 
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March 12, 2003, 16:56
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Muahahaha... Now I have PtW. At least a pre-patch crack.
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March 12, 2003, 18:10
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Originally posted by panag
hi ,
but if you have today the UK english version , you cant patch yet , and that means that you also have no solutions that are fixed with 1.21 , ......
the main problem is infogrames , ......
and the people who buy those international versions , ..... with a click of a mouse you can order the US english version
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Yeey!! let's all buy the US version, let's all support the US economy and while we play Civ in our peaceful living room let's not forget just for one second at least that some of that cold hard $$$ we just spent went to the making of a missile or bomb that will soon kill an iraqui who's only crime in life was being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Go ahead, buy it. Make my day.
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March 12, 2003, 18:15
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Originally posted by Master Zen
Yeey!! let's all buy the US version, let's all support the US economy and while we play Civ in our peaceful living room let's not forget just for one second at least that some of that cold hard $$$ we just spent went to the making of a missile or bomb that will soon kill an iraqui who's only crime in life was being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Go ahead, buy it. Make my day.
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hi ,
 can you stay on topic please , ......
have a nice day
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March 12, 2003, 19:00
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Truth hurts huh? 
And it is on-topic. I'm telling you the reasons why not to by the US version of the game.
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March 12, 2003, 19:06
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Originally posted by Master Zen
Truth hurts huh?
And it is on-topic. I'm telling you the reasons why not to by the US version of the game.
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hi ,
sjee man stay on topic , ....
what the heck has a french shareholder (infogrames) and an american company (firaxis) have to do with the war in iraq , ..... what ?
nothing , nothing at all
so please stay on topic , thank you
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March 12, 2003, 19:25
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Originally posted by Master Zen
And it is on-topic. I'm telling you the reasons why not to by the US version of the game.
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Uhhh... NO IT ISN'T ON TOPIC. 
If you want to sprout your political agenda, do it in the OTF where it belongs... because if you make one more post like that again in the ANY on topic forum... YOU ARE TOAST...
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March 13, 2003, 01:29
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Well, I'll think you'll all agree that the best off-topic discussions are actually found in the on-topic forums...I won't even begin to list the threads...
but maybe, just maybe...
the spirit of ottok hath possessed me!! ahh!!!! surpise!!!
no poltic posts will more on topic...
have a nice day
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March 13, 2003, 19:12
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funny how everyone just flew away from this thread...
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March 14, 2003, 03:51
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funny how everyone just flew away from this thread...
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Well, when Ming starts to threaten with TOAST... People get scared...  
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March 14, 2003, 04:24
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it's clear why:
"my words are backed wid PCR-weapons"
btw: infogrames is a french based company, firaxis is US-american... so no country bashing allowed in either case
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March 14, 2003, 05:06
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[Fez voice]
Blame it on the foreign kid!
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no really, In my defense, I was legitimately answering the reason why I wouldn't buy the US version, not because of the origin of the developer or the designer but rather the retailer.
Of course there are other reasons like 2) Amazon doesn't ship software to my country and 3) some people just like to play in their own language.
But reason 1) is quite valid for me at least, it was not my intention to go on a rant about Iraq, but it is a legitimate reason why I am actually boycotting US products these days. If people don't like my reasons well too bad, but I won't lie in my posts just to make some people happy.
I wonder, from the economic point of view, how much of the $$$ goes to each one.
Let's say Civ3 costs $50. How much of that ends up in Firaxis' pocket? In Infogrames's pocket? In the retailer's pocket?
Also, how much of Infogrames' share ends up in the host country (like Infogrames USA) and ends up in the mother country.
Interestingly I had thought about the idea of this for a study in multi-national firms for my thesis. Maybe I'll come back to it one day
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March 14, 2003, 17:58
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The retailer gets the biggest share and Firaxis the smallest (less than $5 on a $50 game).
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March 14, 2003, 21:41
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Aarrgghh! My cracked PtW doesn't work! So much for P2P networks! 
Anyway, the game should be in the local shops by now - but that's what they have said for the last 5 months! 
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March 14, 2003, 23:15
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The retailer gets the biggest share and Firaxis the smallest (less than $5 on a $50 game).
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So then my reason #1 has validity after all
$5 is very little, I'm surprised they don't get more. With a royalty of that quantitiy it is no wonder the patches come out so late...
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March 15, 2003, 07:10
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but that's always like this.
with music-CDs, the artist only gets a small part of the money. and he has all the work and all the expenses.
the producer gets the big cash and doesn't need to leave his office...
life isn't fair, but that's the way it is...
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March 15, 2003, 14:47
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they should go the id Software way and sell it directly, even if they have to do it over the 'net
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March 15, 2003, 14:47
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Anyway, the game should be in the local shops by now - but that's what they have said for the last 5 months!
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YES... It´s finally here!!!! 
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March 15, 2003, 16:21
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I don't think that id has sold software direct since I ordered Doom from the phone and got John Carmack on the order line.
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March 15, 2003, 18:43
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I don't think that id has sold software direct since I ordered Doom from the phone and got John Carmack on the order line.
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"Firaxis Software, Soren Johnson speaking..."
You can buy games from their (id) web page can't you?
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March 15, 2003, 19:13
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Looking at id's website all 'direct' purchases go straight to the publishers website. The publishers are going to get their cut (they paid for the game to be built after all).
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March 15, 2003, 21:50
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Id defies conventional business logic by maintaining a staff of only 17 employees, even though the company generates annual revenue of $20 million--more than $1 million per employee.
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That's productivity. 
But no wonder he answers the phone himself.
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March 15, 2003, 21:50
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There goes id's royalties... 
BTW, how did you know it was John Carmack who answered the phone? Pretty neat to actually speak with a gaming legend!
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March 15, 2003, 23:14
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He wasn't a gaming legend back then, nobody'd ever heard of him (till a few weeks later). In fact, he sent me an extra copy of Doom later because he screwed up my order
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March 16, 2003, 02:50
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That's productivity.
But no wonder he answers the phone himself.
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$20 million a year and they can't hire a goddamn secretary. Cheap bastards!!
I wonder if I call Firaxis, Sid Meier will answer
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March 16, 2003, 10:53
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Like I implied, this was back when id was operating out of one of their houses and hadn't yet made mega-bucks.
Sure, Sid'll answer if you know his phone number.
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