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View Poll Results: Would you name the second city by "Locutus"?
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Yes
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February 3, 2003, 13:54
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King
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OFFICIAL: Name of our second city!
I think a good idea to name our cities after famous Lemurians. And this city i want to congratulate Locutus because of all the effort he did to CTP2 and to all of our DG community. Since he is our moderator and Minister of Diplomacy, the one who write the news, he has showed up ina all the chat until now, have played a major whole in the creation of the constitution, specially the Court article, he is in the hall of fame, ......
So all of us agree in naming the city after him.
Variations of the names are accepted specially if suggested but Locutus. Somethings like "Locutusia", "LocutusLand", "Locutopolis", etc...
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February 3, 2003, 15:02
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Settler
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Locutum
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February 3, 2003, 16:29
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King
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I like "Locutopolis", it has a 1950's pulp flavour I think is fun.
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February 3, 2003, 17:34
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Prince
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Locutamus, Locutatis, Locutant
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February 3, 2003, 23:33
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Emperor
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I quite like mrmitchell's name for Locutus "Locust"
I really have no opinion, nor do I care.
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February 3, 2003, 23:35
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King
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I voted yes... I say let Locutus pick the variant... or the original!
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February 4, 2003, 00:59
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King
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Locutus O'Borg
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February 4, 2003, 04:37
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King
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February 4, 2003, 05:28
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Prince
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Originally posted by Gilgamensch
The only think, if he votes , shall we still go with it????
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Well, this is a democracy game - and the majority rules.
I voted yes. But please, let’s not have three more spin-off polls on variants etc. Just let Locutus pick a name and go with it. Please. Pretty please. With a cherry on top.
Don’t sweat the petty stuff.
And don’t pet the sweaty stuff.
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February 4, 2003, 06:17
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King
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I really think we should leave it to Locutus.
But Pedrunn could (kind of) 'decide' on his own (to leave it to Locutus, in case 'he' wins )
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February 4, 2003, 06:26
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Prince
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nothing against Locutus or you Pedrunn but I find the idea to name our cities after people pretty lame.
I voted no last time, no again.
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February 4, 2003, 07:17
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Deity
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First of all, I think giving cities the exact same names as posters is very confusing, especially during turn chats (I almost mixed up Pedrunn the city and Pedrunn the poster a few times during the last chat). So if anything, I think a variant on Locutus should be used, not Locutus itself. And I strongly urge Pedrunn to rename our capital to Pedrunnlandia (a name he made up himself a long time ago, if anyone still remembers that ) or something similar as well.
But like mapfi, I would prefer original names like Xanadu, El Dorado or Lemur City (well, not exactly original, but you get the point ).
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Locutamus, Locutatis, Locutant
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Your Latin is absolutely terrible. That should read Locuti, Locutorum, Locutis, Locutos, Locutis, Locuti (Locutus is a noun ). If you must make it a verb, it would be Locuti sumus, Locuti estis, Locuti sunt.
In any case, if you must go with poster names, my personal preference would go to a classical Roman name, something like Colonia Locuta Tubantia (which could be shortened to Locuta Tubantia or just Locuta)...
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February 4, 2003, 07:55
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King
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Originally posted by Locutus
First of all, I think giving cities the exact same names as posters is very confusing, especially during turn chats (I almost mixed up Pedrunn the city and Pedrunn the poster a few times during the last chat).
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Plans for that have been made indeed! I also think this kind of change is necessary. To tell you the truth i have been thinking in Pedrunnpolis or Pedrunnia or Pedrunnlandia (you remembered
It was when i have made those brazialian cities names list )
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Colonia Locuta Tubantia (...) or just Locuta)...
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I liked Locutusia
The name you chose is too big indeed. I like Locuta for sure!
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February 4, 2003, 08:01
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King
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So Pedrunn,
you left it then to Locutus, who has choosen his 'sister' (at least if I remember right my old Latin)
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February 4, 2003, 08:03
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King
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Originally posted by Gilgamensch
you left it then to Locutus, who has choosen his 'sister' (at least if I remember right my old Latin)
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For those who didt undestand, in iberic languages "a" at the and almost always means female names
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February 4, 2003, 08:16
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King
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Or maybe Locutus might want to indicate that he is gonna switch gender?????????????
So a kind of early warning ?
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February 4, 2003, 08:44
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Deity
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I liked Locutusia
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And I accused IW of speaking poor Latin...
Erm, Roman colonia names are almost always female: Colonia Augusta, Colonia Claudia, Colonia Iulia, Colonia Patricia, Colonia Victrix, etc. All named after male Emperors. Don't ask me why, but it was common practice in those days...
Another way to shorten the full name would be Colonia Locuta, which is IMO better than just Locuta (which is just weird for obvious reasons )
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February 4, 2003, 09:13
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King
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Locutus, how many languages are you speaking or can you read?
You are a real well of knowledge, how do you find the time to work, mod, play CtP1 and Ctp2 (single player, MP and DG), moderate, socialize, watch Soccer (eek! You can not imagine how it is difficult for me to write this word), play (and mod?) Birth of the Federation and still improve your culture?
How many are you?
Are you part of a hive mind or an advanced artificial construct?
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February 4, 2003, 14:21
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Deity
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Originally posted by Tamerlin
How many are you?
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At present, the Collective consists of 13549868629304 drones We speak 26259920 languages, about of dozen of which are Terran in origin
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Locutus, how many languages are you speaking or can you read?
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Seriously, I speak Twents, Dutch, English and German more or less fluently (more in case of Dutch, less in case of German ), can understand and to a limited extend express myself in Latin, French and Spanish and Dutch dialects other than Twents (the Low Countries have an incredible variety in dialects) can with some effort more or less read Esperanto, (ancient) Greek, Italian, Portuguese, etc. I'm currently learning Turkish, while Arab, Russian and Mandarin are on my to-do list.
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You are a real well of knowledge, how do you find the time to work, mod, play CtP1 and Ctp2 (single player, MP and DG), moderate, socialize, watch Soccer (eek! You can not imagine how it is difficult for me to write this word), play (and mod?) Birth of the Federation and still improve your culture?
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Gee, if that was all I did, I might actually manage to finish my to-do list one day
On a side note: it's football, not that horrible s-word!
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February 4, 2003, 18:30
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Prince
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It's a verb (as well, I guess). Its the historic or something. "Locutus" can be translated as "having spoken".
But yes, my latin is still terrible, and I'm sure I got even the past historic plural conjugation of it wrong anyway.
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February 4, 2003, 19:58
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Deity
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Yes it is, in combination with esse, then it forms the indicativus praesentis of loqui, which indeed translates as 'to have spoken'. 'Locutus sum' is a verb, 'Locutus' is not. Using 'Locutamus' in Latin to denote 'We have spoken' is like using 'He bathtubs every day' in English to denote 'He takes a bath every day'.
Granted, 'locut-' is indeed the perfect stem for loqui and thus theoretically a verb. However, loqui is a verbum deponentium: a verb which only exists in passive form but still has an active meaning. And since the passive form always uses the auxiliary verb esse (in active or passive form), that kind of limits the options
So Locutus can only be used as a verbal noun, which is still a noun and gets -us/-a/-um or variants as ending, never -o/-amus/-i/-imus or whatever...
But you got the conjugation just fine, although it struck me as odd to use the past tense, present tense (as I did) would have made more sense ('we have spoken' vs 'we had spoken') - I'm not gone yet
Just be glad that English has such mindblowingly little variation when it comes to verbs
Last edited by Locutus; February 4, 2003 at 20:18.
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February 4, 2003, 20:26
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King
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Originally posted by Locutus
At present, the Collective consists of 13549868629304 drones We speak 26259920 languages, about of dozen of which are Terran in origin
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Seriously, I speak Twents, Dutch, English and German more or less fluently (more in case of Dutch, less in case of German ), can understand and to a limited extend express myself in Latin, French and Spanish and Dutch dialects other than Twents (the Low Countries have an incredible variety in dialects) can with some effort more or less read Esperanto, (ancient) Greek, Italian, Portuguese, etc. I'm currently learning Turkish, while Arab, Russian and Mandarin are on my to-do list.
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That's all!
Are you actually telling us you have been cut off from the Collective?
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Gee, if that was all I did, I might actually manage to finish my to-do list one day
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When do you sleep?
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On a side note: it's football, not that horrible s-word!
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You know F******* and S***** (sorry I can't...) are the same and our american friends might be confused if we use the f-word instead of the s-word.
BTW Locutus, as far as I know Birth of the Federation has never been distributed in France and I know nothing of what seems to be a great game. Could you tell me more about it (why not in the Lemuria Café as this is off-topic)?
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February 4, 2003, 20:38
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King
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Originally posted by Locutus
... something like Colonia Locuta Tubantia ...
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so it would be cologne in 2000 years, or as it is called here, kölle
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February 4, 2003, 20:41
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King
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honestly, i like kartoffelpuffer, but rösti would be fine as well
btw: abstain
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February 4, 2003, 21:34
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King
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yeah use Loc's name but i hope it'll be a variant
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February 4, 2003, 21:34
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King
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yeah use Loc's name but i hope it'll be a variant
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February 5, 2003, 14:57
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Prince
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Just be glad that English has such mindblowingly little variation when it comes to verbs
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Every day
Historic just seems more epic somehow.
Ok, in truth, I used it because it was the first thing that came to mind, I wasn't actually trying to conjugate it properly in any way at all...
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