February 11, 2003, 04:22
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Deity
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How to build "New Paris 5"
Well, yesterday I thought I'd try for the most excessive ICS strat possible, and then share this with the 'poly people. The aim was to get more that 10 times around the city list. That's 200 cities or so. Here's a save from 610AD, with everything going rather well.
The difficulty is Chieftain. All rules are default. This was just an experiment. The first hut I popped, just south of Paris, had a settler in it. Paris built a settler, and then the Pyramids (essential) The second city built a granary, hurried by chopping trees. All cities now build settlers for 4000 years. Enjoy.
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February 11, 2003, 04:29
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Deity
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Here is the second save from 760AD. See how much the empire has grown in 150 years. I have at least 10 settlers active every turn. This is insane. Look at the Pink Plague grow !
-Jam
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February 11, 2003, 04:31
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Deity
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And here is the latest installment, in 1000AD. I think this game is in the bag now, I mean I have about 20 times more cities than the other civs together 
Can anyone beat this by 1000AD ?
ICS rules !
-Jam
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February 11, 2003, 10:13
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Deity
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Doh, forgot to post the last save.
Well, here it is now. This is a really powerful way of playing, and even people with no skill at all can beat Chieftain this way. The trick is in the spacing. Look and learn.
-Jam
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February 11, 2003, 10:46
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Try it on Deity. By running your test on Chieftain, you've mostly showed that anything works on the lowest difficulty (well, almost...pure Anarchy is tough!). To prove that ICS rules, you would have to demonstrate that it beats the game at some reasonable level of difficulty. I have no doubts about what you'll find, but it's more fun to do it for oneself.
Dominae
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February 11, 2003, 10:51
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Deity
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Guess what I'm doing tonight. Playing this strat through to 1AD on different levels. I will, of course, stay with the standard rules.
Wish me luck.
-Jam
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February 11, 2003, 11:04
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Yuck. Do you enjoy playing that way?
-Arrian
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February 11, 2003, 11:04
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Is there a way to lose on chieftain?
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February 11, 2003, 12:40
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Prince
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Originally posted by Arrian
Yuck. Do you enjoy playing that way?
-Arrian
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I would be so fed up with the micromanagement, and all the ugliness, that I would have to take a break from civ for a while. I can't play my current Emperor game for more than 45 minutes at a time, or else I get a big headache. I am amazed at how much effort goes in to some of these games.
Anyway, good luck!
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February 11, 2003, 13:03
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Can you pls post an Image for the game? Some of us is at work rite now, and dont currently have Civ installed 
thx
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February 11, 2003, 15:44
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Prince
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Originally posted by Olaf Hårfagre
Is there a way to lose on chieftain?
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The amazon.com reviews were made by people who couldn't win on Chieftain.
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February 11, 2003, 19:26
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Originally posted by Jawa Jocky
The amazon.com reviews were made by people who couldn't win on Chieftain.
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Hi everybody...
I wonder if they played the game at all.
BigD
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February 12, 2003, 03:32
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Deity
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Originally posted by Arrian
Yuck. Do you enjoy playing that way?
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Not really Arrian, its more in the way of an experiment. Basically I just press "B" and tell the new city to build settlers. And repeat. Its pretty dull.
I'm try now with this strat on Regent, so its not such a walk over. The Indians are occupying some land I want, and the power of this strat comes into play when I change all the settler production into millitary units. Its a gas, let me tell you. I'll post some saves later of the second game, on Regent, with the Americans (just to help Arrian enjoy it more  )
Its taking a hammer to crack an egg, even on Regent. 100 crap cities can produce an awful lot of horsemen or swordsmen.
-Jam
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February 12, 2003, 12:29
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Chieftain
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How do you keep the barbs from ransacking if all you do is build workers and settlers????
At some point in the build you must build some units????
What size map is this and what kind???
Need more data!! need input!!!
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February 12, 2003, 12:39
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Emperor
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Perhaps play on a tiny map, start within 10 tiles from an AI and build neither military units nor settlers?
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Originally posted by Olaf Hårfagre
Is there a way to lose on chieftain?
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February 12, 2003, 16:39
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BORING! 
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February 16, 2003, 22:38
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February 17, 2003, 03:37
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Deity
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The point is that the AI doesn't. Its scared of me! Even though I have about no army at all 
I'm giving up on this game anyway. I have to try to finish PoRRoMD before MoO3 comes out...
-Jam
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