February 21, 2003, 17:33
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
I never bought SC3000. I believe i am fortunate in that respect. Not that SC3000 was bad, but that the way Maxis has done incremental improvements, SC3000 was disappointing to a lot of SC2000 fans, and SC4 is disappointing to at least some SC3000 fans, but the combination of all the incremental improvements will make SC4 enough of a jump to satisfy an SC2000 fan.
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I've read an article were someone from Maxis (Will Wrigth I think), said the reason SC3000 became what it is, is because Maxis had almost no money at that time, and had many flops after SC2000 (SC2000 was the last success I think they mentioned)... and because of this, they had to try to make a sequel to what made Maxis: SimCity... but because of the lack of money, they couldn't add much...
They also mentioned that their publisher (?) "demanded" that they'd make it SimCity 3D (Saw a screenshot of it... wasn't a pretty sight), but they managed to "persuade" them, to say ok for the "2d" version they released...
A bit off-topic
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February 21, 2003, 17:41
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You know, I always loved the Earth2150 and Moon Project games. (RTS games)
The fully 3d graphics and control capabilties are absolutely beautiful.
The only thing that I have mixed feelings about is the concept of having a main base and a mission base. It takes a while to get used to.
I have yet to see an RTS that pulls 3d off in as beautiful a way as they do in Earth2150.
Warcraft3 was ok, but half-ass i think.
That's why I am really interested in C&C Generals...to see how they pulled off the 3d RTS game world.
Anyone have a comparison report?
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February 21, 2003, 17:49
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
I never bought SC3000. I believe i am fortunate in that respect. Not that SC3000 was bad, but that the way Maxis has done incremental improvements, SC3000 was disappointing to a lot of SC2000 fans, and SC4 is disappointing to at least some SC3000 fans, but the combination of all the incremental improvements will make SC4 enough of a jump to satisfy an SC2000 fan.
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Good point, skipping an incarnation in the sim games COULD be the thing to do. Unless there are obvious and drastic improvements...
I played sim city 1, never got around to getting 2000, but I bought 3000 and was very satisfied. (obviously a HUGE leap from the first simcity.)
Im on the fence with the latest simcity.
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February 21, 2003, 20:27
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Originally posted by vee4473
Warcraft3 was ok, but half-ass i think.
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The graphics wasn't great in War3... pretty strange that they used 3D graphics (Which is almost always uglier than 2D graphics), but "only" gave possibility to play in a 2D world... I set "only" in "" since they made it possible to turn the camera a little to the sides and up and down, but you couldn't keep the new camera angle, unless you kept pressing that key...
With other words: The "3D" part of the game sucks, and the graphics sucks (compared to what they could have done, if they made the graphics in "2D")
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February 21, 2003, 20:32
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It's playability that makes a game......Warcraft3 has it in spades.
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February 21, 2003, 20:52
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It's playability that makes a game......Warcraft3 has it in spades.
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I'd have to disagree with you there. It's got alot of 3D graphics and eye candy (not that they're particularily good, mind you), but there's no playability there for me.
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February 21, 2003, 21:03
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Each to his own.........there are 45,000 people on Battle.net for WC3 now, and 250,000 overall.
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February 21, 2003, 21:16
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I'll throw a plug in for Hitman2.The Metal Gear Solid of contract killing but since I never played MGS, I can't comment
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THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE ALL TIME BIGGEST CRAP GAMES EVER. if all games start sucking that much im going back to playing Duke Nuke'm and Commander Keen.
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