Official: National Fungus Park?

Cedayon · February 11, 2003, 12:59

K, the discussion seemed over, so here's the poll:

Should we declare the area designated (in the picture below, enclosed in blue) as a "National Fungus Park"?

-"Yes, and let us not even move units through it."
Fairly self explanatory, no?

-"Yes, and let us only move through it when necessary, not for mindworm hunting."
Presumably to stash our own worms here, or "to take pictures".

-"Yes, and let us hunt mindworms there."
For captured worms (not many in our current SE, mind you), unit experience, and planetpearls.

-"No, there is no need for such a declaration."
Also self explanatory.

-"Write-in"
-"Xenobanana"

edit- you have 3 days

If an option gets 50%+1 of the vote, it wins. If no options get that majority, there will be a run-off between the two most popular options.

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 02:29

Yes, and we should regularly hunt mindworms there, for the money.

Archaic · February 12, 2003, 03:03

What GT said. Imagine the tourism.

Jamski · February 12, 2003, 03:43

Yes, but no mindworm hunting. Some of us do give a d*mn about Planet. Nature park, not farm.

-Jam

Archaic · February 12, 2003, 05:34

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Originally posted by War of Art
Yes, but no mindworm hunting. Some of us do give a d*mn about Planet. Nature park, not farm.

-Jam

Oh come on. They're the hunters dream. A species that's both difficult to kill and impossible to render extinct. Planet can grow a few new ones by photosynthesis the next day or something. It's a fricking big plant.

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 05:37

Besides,s ome of us care rather more about improving conditions for our citizens than for the wellbeing of a few inconsequential predators.

Jamski · February 12, 2003, 06:32

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Originally posted by Archaic

Oh come on. They're the hunters dream. A species that's both difficult to kill and impossible to render extinct. Planet can grow a few new ones by photosynthesis the next day or something. It's a fricking big plant.

If the mindworms are a danger to us, then will killing a few help us then? Its like drinking the sea. And if we want to join with Planet one day in trancendence, then we'd better start being nice to him/her/it now.

-Jam

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 06:34

How exactly can one play nice with a life-form that exists for the sole purpose of killing us?

Jamski · February 12, 2003, 06:55

Haven't we already had this discussion? Out of curiosity, do you win most games by trancendance, diplomacy or millitary? I'm guessing the last, but many, like me, play SMAC with the aim of trancending. That is how the "story" of SMAC is written, after all, so being nice to Planet is a perfectly valid way of playing this game.

-Jam

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 06:59

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Haven't we already had this discussion?

Maybe. What did you say?

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Out of curiosity, do you win most games by trancendance, diplomacy or millitary? I'm guessing the last, but many, like me, play SMAC with the aim of trancending. That is how the "story" of SMAC is written, after all, so being nice to Planet is a perfectly valid way of playing this game.

Actually, the most common way for me to win is by miltiary or diplomacy, but only because I usually give up on Transcendance games out of boredom. I geenrally try to transcend, and I do think that it si the ebst way to win, it's just that I consider it pointless to try to reason with something that wants to kill you.

Archaic · February 12, 2003, 07:07

I tend to attempt the Economic Victory if possible, without engaging in hostile military action (Where possible) to whittle down the number of bases I need to buy. It's a harder way to win, even if it's worth less points, so more bragging rights to those who can make it.

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 07:10

A pity that the AI seems to have no comprehension of the idea.

Archaic · February 12, 2003, 07:11

A pity that the AI seems to have no comprehension full stop.

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 07:15

Yeah, like when they vote to join you because you gave them a technology they now won't ever get to use.

Archaic · February 12, 2003, 07:19

I suppose you could say that's supposed to be an RP then, but then, they can't RP either. Evidence? When they stay in Pact with you when they're the Gaians and you're a PK Lal running FM. (This is *happening* right now in the challenge game for me. Pacted her on the same turn I got the EG.)

Jamski · February 12, 2003, 07:53

I bet that pact won't last long.

GT, I think its all in the discussion thread that goes with this poll.

-Jam

GeneralTacticus · February 12, 2003, 07:57

I've looked through it, and there wasn't actually anything there about 'playing nice' with the Planet.

Archaic · February 12, 2003, 08:10

It's lasted over 20 years WoA. The fact that I can easily keep her in line with tech trades and gifts, and if necessary open military threats, helps bunches. My record for something like this was about 50 years....after which it didn't matter anyway.

Jamski · February 12, 2003, 09:55

My god, Deidre is a fool.

WAKE UP DEIDRE !

-Jam

Cedayon · February 15, 2003, 13:08

Alrighty, I'm not sure how much more indecisive this poll could have been... Even if I repoll with just the top three options (and the obligatory Xenobanana) it's somewhat unlikely an individual option would get the necessary 50%+1 vote.

Suggestions, folks?

Maniac · February 15, 2003, 16:28

Take the average. Assign option 1 the value "0", option 2 "1", option 3 "2" and option 4 "3". 2*0 + 2*1 + 3*2 + 1*3 = 11/8. That's less then 1.5, so value "1" (= option 2) wins.

"Yes, and let us only move through it when necessary, not for mindworm hunting."

Cedayon · February 15, 2003, 16:52

Hmm, sounds reasonable ... some people might disagree, though. I'd feel more comfortable making a decision if more than 9 people had voted...

For now, at the least, it's a park and there will be no mindworm hunting there. Do any of you feel a re-poll to be necessary?

Oh, and will I have to wait 7 days til I can repoll, because of the new amendment?

GeneralTacticus · February 15, 2003, 17:36

Not if the poll was indecisive (as this one was).

Cedayon · February 15, 2003, 17:45

Ah, right... I should have remembered that clause, considering I was the one who proposed it

I'll post the re-poll tomorrow, after most people have had a chance to comment on this little situation.

Maniac · February 15, 2003, 17:47

I hope it won't be the exact same poll! That won't have any use.

Cedayon · February 15, 2003, 17:51

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Originally posted by Maniac
I hope it won't be the exact same poll! That won't have any use.

It actually might, if more people voted... but I wasn't planning to post the exact same poll, but rather this:

-Yes, only moving through it in emergencies
-Yes, moving through it at convienience (mindworm hunting included)
-Xenobanana

I cut the 'No' option since the vast majority of votes were for a 'Yes' option, and I cut the 'Yes, but no movement through it at all' option because the 'moving through it in emergencies' is far more reasonable and is not much different than not moving through it at all.

I may trim the 'Yes' part off the options, since it's no longer a question of whether we declare it a park or not, but rather what we'll allow done in it.