February 14, 2003, 11:37
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Inteligence Agency
We'll complete Intelligence Agency next turn. Should we try to plant some spies? And where?
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February 14, 2003, 12:18
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I suggest Japan for now. Since we're already at war with them, they can't declare war again if they catch our spy.
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February 14, 2003, 13:20
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Whatever you do, don't try to plant spies into contries that owe us a lot of money in GPT.
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February 14, 2003, 13:21
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Rather building
In Greece perhaps, or England or Mexico (Aztecs). There is but a risk that they'll declare war on us.
I think however, that it's better to spare our money for rushing builings in Old Germany so that it can becoem aregion with a high industial production.
Building up the industry is is one of my main priorities during term 9 when the first neccesary buildings are built.
Aidun
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February 14, 2003, 13:51
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hi ,
we should get spies everywhere , ....
have a nice day
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February 14, 2003, 13:52
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As acting SMC I urge we wait for peace with japan until we have suceessfully placed a spy there.
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February 14, 2003, 15:59
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I would be against the use of spies without Senate approval for using them against a specific power (after that the admin can do whatever they want concerning that certain power, but getting the Senate's approval to use them at all against a specific power would be nice).
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February 14, 2003, 16:12
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We will not place spies in England or Greece at this point, because we have gpt deals with both, and if they catch our spy, they will have a justifiable reason to declare war and cancel these agreements (though they would be foolish to do so, but hey, this is the AI we're speaking of).
I agree with Aggie's opinion. We have discussed this during the last turnchat, if my memory serves me right, and there seemed to be a concensus on this matter.
Speaking in more general terms, I would like to delay the signing of a peace treaty with Japan by more than just until we manage to plant a spy. So far it's costing us nothing (we haven't lost a single unit to them yet, nor do we suffer from any war weariness), and since the Japanese have nothing to offer us in exchange for peace (except for silks, which we don't really need at the moment), I see no reason to sign a peace treaty. I'd rather see them send more wooden boats and rusty ironclads to be sunk by our growing fleet.
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February 14, 2003, 16:48
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That fleet will soon be twice large with veteran Battleships: FUN
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February 14, 2003, 16:51
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I agree with you, guys... except panag (too risky, with gpt deals involved. Later, if needed) and Arnelos... The CoL don't say anything about this (I may be wrong, Arn; correct me if necessary). Besides, we are already at war with Japan.
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February 16, 2003, 09:56
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Originally posted by Aro
I agree with you, guys... except panag (too risky, with gpt deals involved. Later, if needed) and Arnelos... The CoL don't say anything about this (I may be wrong, Arn; correct me if necessary). Besides, we are already at war with Japan.
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hi ,
we could always try ,......
we have the deals , fine then we can wait and place some spies elsewhere , ....
have a nice day
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February 16, 2003, 12:09
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Originally posted by panag
we could always try ,......
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If our spy is caught then they will have a perfectly good excuse to cancel all deals and we'd lose potential thousands. Furthermore, we'd take a rep hit, and our relationship with the offended civ will deteriorate significantly.
No, it's best to place spies during war.
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February 16, 2003, 13:48
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Our spy in Kyoto has reported this:
The japanese units:
28 workers, 1 warrior, 2 archers, 40 spearmen, 2 swords, 2 horses, 13 pikes, 16 rifles, 14 inf, 36 cav, 18 ironclads, 7 frig, 5 galley, 9 catapult... and 1 samurai.
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February 16, 2003, 17:41
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Spies are not implemented well in-game.
In RL, placing spies are expensive, and (most of the time) not very useful. Occasionally you learn an awful lot, but usually not. Also, in RL, countries rarely declare war over a spy mission. So to my view planting spies should:
Cost more
Success is about right, maybe a bit high
Downside is way too large.
I have not really found spies to be effective except when I am already at war with the intended recipient.
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February 16, 2003, 19:55
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Originally posted by Aro
Our spy in Kyoto has reported this:
The japanese units:
28 workers, 1 warrior, 2 archers, 40 spearmen, 2 swords, 2 horses, 13 pikes, 16 rifles, 14 inf, 36 cav, 18 ironclads, 7 frig, 5 galley, 9 catapult... and 1 samurai.
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hi ,
 , nothing a small civ3demo M.C. could not handle , ......
have a nice day
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