If I build a city on a luxery resource will I get credit for it?

Dis · February 18, 2003, 06:03

Will I get any bonus trade arrows and will I get the happiness bonus from it?

Is there a disadvantage to building a city on a resource?

I did notice that it's still not good to build a city on a shielded grassland. Same as in civ2.

I just wanted to build on the luxery resource to utilize another resource nearby. This is the only square that can utilize all of the resources.

Just wondering.

aaglo · February 18, 2003, 06:24

yes, you get the trade and happines bonus to that city, and the happiness bonus to all cities connected to it via road, harbour or airport.

Dis · February 18, 2003, 06:33

sounds good, thanks

TacticalGrace · February 18, 2003, 08:09

what the hell is shielded grassland supposed to be anyway?

aaglo · February 18, 2003, 08:11

It's a grassland with better AC (armor class) than non-shielded grassland.

TheStinger · February 18, 2003, 08:14

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Originally posted by aaglo
It's a grassland with better AC (armor class) than non-shielded grassland.

theNiceOne · February 18, 2003, 08:25

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Originally posted by Dissident
Is there a disadvantage to building a city on a resource?

As others have answered, you get the strategic resource/luxury benefit, which is the most important part.

However, a city tiles always produce 2 food and at least one shield, so building a city on any resource that gives additional food/shield effectively wastes these food/shields - it is much better to work on the tiles with citizens.

Ex: Wines give one additional food, but this bonus is wasted if you build a city on the wine tile.

aaglo · February 18, 2003, 08:36

Like theNiceOne said. But remember, you still get the commerce bonus.

Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not sure anymore...

If you build a city on top of a gold deposit (not lux/strg resource), you get the commerce bonus.... I'll have to check on this...

Mad Bomber · February 18, 2003, 10:52

aaglo:

You do get the commerce bonus from luxuries also. You only lose food and shields. Which is one reason I will never build a city on a Wheat or Cattle tile.

Willem · February 18, 2003, 12:11

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Originally posted by aaglo
Like theNiceOne said. But remember, you still get the commerce bonus.

Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not sure anymore...

If you build a city on top of a gold deposit (not lux/strg resource), you get the commerce bonus.... I'll have to check on this...

You get both shield and commerce bonuses, just not the food.

0bsidi0n · February 18, 2003, 16:33

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Originally posted by aaglo
It's a grassland with better AC (armor class) than non-shielded grassland.

Also, if it's next to a river, there is a thac0 modifier

The Mad Monk · February 18, 2003, 18:09

That's correct, you get shields and trade, plus the resource 'credit', but food remians, as always, two.

Dis · February 18, 2003, 21:04

ok thanks.

yeah it is one of those purple things. I think they are dyes or something

You can see how closely I follow luxery resources. I don't care what they are. I just want as many as I can get.

Willem · February 19, 2003, 12:50

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
That's correct, you get shields and trade, plus the resource 'credit', but food remians, as always, two.

No, it remains the amount needed by each of your citizens. If you raised the food requirement to three, then your home square would also give you three food.

steven8r · February 19, 2003, 13:24

Not only do you get the Luxury benefit, but you don't have to build a road to it!
I had to stretch, but that is the only bonus that I could see about building atop a resource--unless the other squares around it make it otherwise appealing.

theNiceOne · February 20, 2003, 03:39

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk That's correct, you get shields and trade, plus the resource 'credit', but food remians, as always, two.

I wasn't too clear in my original post. Yes, you get shields, but you effectively loose one shield by building on a resource, because a city built on grassland produces one shield. So when I build a city, I look for the non-shielded grassland tiles to build on.

Datajack Franit · February 20, 2003, 16:57

The commerce bonus works only if your faction is.... commercial

Shr3dZ · February 20, 2003, 17:01

I com'on, we're way past thac0 - now we've got BaB (base attack bonus).

pedrojedi · February 22, 2003, 22:24

There should be a flanking bonus. A sneak attack would be cool.

I like building cities atop resources. It`s a garanty of at least one resource to my civ, as my enemies normally like to build cities just outside the "farewell, traveller" plaque that lies on the bondaries of my cities.

Thoth · February 23, 2003, 07:10

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Originally posted by theNiceOne

I wasn't too clear in my original post. Yes, you get shields, but you effectively loose one shield by building on a resource, because a city built on grassland produces one shield. So when I build a city, I look for the non-shielded grassland tiles to build on.

You only loose the shield until the city grows to size 7. Cities (size 7+) get a bonus shield on the city square, but only if the base tile already produces a shield.

Emma · February 24, 2003, 15:34

seems as if things are a bit... unclear. does anyone know exactly what happens? what information posted here is wrong, which is right ect.
just not too sure who's right now...